dollars 2 donuts Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) Through 11 games Allen has 15 passing TDs, to go with 7 rushing TDs. Not hard to figure out that if he keeps up this pace he'll finish with 32 total TDs. I believe the franchise record is 34 by Jim Kelly in 1991 (33 passing, 1 rushing). It is the only time Kelly did it. The thing is in checking this out it is the only time any Bills QB has been at 30 or over TDs. Unless I am missing something it hasn't ever happened, before or since. Even in Ferguson, Bledsoe and I think Fitzy years of 24 or so TD passes (there was a 25 in there, too), I don't believe any of them had 5-6 rushing TDs in a season to get to 30. I know this is just an individual player stat, and not necessarily a so sexy one as it includes rushing TDs, but still I just really found it kind of interesting. Even with some hick-ups he should really hit 30. On the other side of it I don't think it is crazy to think he has chance at possibly tying or even surpassing Kelly, albeit that would be a lot, but hey it would mean nice things for the way these last 5 games play out. Not bad for a second season. Go Allen, Go Bills! Edited November 25, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) That one rushing TD agains Miami was amazing. I remember going bananas watching it. 7 rushing TD’s is a lot. Didn’t Brady get a bunch of QB sneak TD’s years ago? Speaking of rushing, Allen’s best run for me yesterday came on the 3 down play where he took off after there was nobody open. Those are the runs I’d like to see more of and less of the designed QB runs. Edited November 26, 2019 by atlbillsfan1975 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Developing into the best QB we have had since Jimbo. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 We are going to be drunk before Thursday with all the beers I am handing out to you guys. 1 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Cam Newton I believe had 35 total TD's in his MVP season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Cam Newton I believe had 35 total TD's in his MVP season. Royale is that a comparison or just anecdotal? Honestly asking, my friend. Just curious. EDIT: Forgive me, brother. I see what you are saying. Very nice! Edited November 25, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: We are going to be drunk before Thursday with all the beers I am handing out to you guys. 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Cam Newton I believe had 35 total TD's in his MVP season. 45 total, 35 passing and 10 rushing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, H2o said: 45 total, 35 passing and 10 rushing I loved watching him during that season. May I just add something: on the lead up to this game on Thursday I am so hopefully that I believe I have the optimism of my 12 year old self. ...I was pretty positive little dude at 12. Edited November 25, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, H2o said: 45 total, 35 passing and 10 rushing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDude Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: We are going to be drunk before Thursday with all the beers I am handing out to you guys. Nope. Will be so fat and stuffed from early Thanksgiving smorgasbord that I may not be able to get any beer in me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Come Thursday evening you can add 4 more to the season total. 2 rushing 2 passing against them cowboys. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 minute ago, dollars 2 donuts said: I loved watching him during that season. May I just add something: on the lead up to this game on Thursday I am so hopefully that I believe I have the optimism of my 12 year old self. ...I was pretty positive little dude at 12. Daboll going up in the booth has been seemingly what he needed, while Josh being told to go out there and be himself has unleashed the beast. We win this game on Thursday, on the road, on national TV, and the Nancy's will conveniently be out Black Friday shopping. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Through 11 games Allen has 15 passing TDs, to go with 7 rushing TDs. Not hard to figure out that if he keeps up this pace he'll finish with 32 total TDs. I believe the franchise record is 34 by Jim Kelly in 1991 (33 passing, 1 rushing...oh boy all of us of a certain age remember that one rushing TD against the Dolphins). It is the only time Kelly did it. The thing is in checking this out it is the only time any Bills QB has been at 30 or over TDs. Unless I am missing something it hasn't ever happened, before or since. Even in Ferguson, Bledsoe and I think Fitzy years of 24 or so TD passes (there was a 25 in there, too), I don't believe any of them had 5-6 rushing TDs in a season to get to 30. Go Allen, Go Bills! Agree, Josh is something to be excited about...but not to be an a-hole, but I think the TD run you are thinking of against Miami was in the 1989 season opener, Jimbo heaving his way into the end-zone as time expired. Edited November 25, 2019 by Buftex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, Buftex said: Agree, Josh is something to be excited about...but not to be an a-hole, but I think the TD run you are thinking of against Miami was in the 1989 season opener, Jimbo heaving his way into the end-zone as time expired. My apologies, as then that Miami TD must have been in 89. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, H2o said: Developing into the best QB we have had since Jimbo. we will take that as a complement, not a heck of a lot of competition there... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 32 minutes ago, row_33 said: we will take that as a complement, not a heck of a lot of competition there... The first 8 games of Drew Bledsoe's Buffalo career were pretty fantastic (maybe better than any like stretch than Kelly ever had)....but the last 2.5 seasons, not so much! 54 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: My apologies, as then that Miami TD must have been in 89. Being the obsessive compulsive that I am, Kelly's one rushing TD of 1991 came against the Packers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboTronic Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 And 30 TD's is really nothing in today's game. Shows how long the Bills have been without a decent QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, RoboTronic said: And 30 TD's is really nothing in today's game. Shows how long the Bills have been without a decent QB. Tom Brady is on pace for 23 combined TD's 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: Tom Brady is on pace for 23 combined TD's kinda getting tired of people criticizing a 10-1 team..... or Pats fans whining about the team... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboTronic Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: Tom Brady is on pace for 23 combined TD's Yeah, but he's 42 years old or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Just now, RoboTronic said: Yeah, but he's 42 years old or whatever. his team is 10-1, it would be 10-1 if he had another 5 TDs mixed in over those 11 games... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, row_33 said: kinda getting tired of people criticizing a 10-1 team..... or Pats fans whining about the team... NO CRITICISM MEANT. oops Just stating what I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Just now, SlimShady'sGhost said: NO CRITICISM MEANT. oops Just stating what I see. seeing what, a stat that you have cherry picked and prorated for no reason? Pats are still the team to beat when it matters, no matter how Brady's TD total fails to impress you will you include moral victories achieved against the Pats, to detract from their 10-1 record? was that a moral victory for Dallas yesterday? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 3 hours ago, H2o said: Developing into the best QB we have had since Jimbo. Sort of like McDermott being within spitting distance of 3rd best coach in Bills history. The QB position has been a 23-year nightmare. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, row_33 said: seeing what, a stat that you have cherry picked and prorated for no reason? Pats are still the team to beat when it matters, no matter how Brady's TD total fails to impress you will you include moral victories achieved against the Pats, to detract from their 10-1 record? was that a moral victory for Dallas yesterday? Easy there ... I was just countering that post about 30 being the norm. Even the very diminished Peyton Manning won a SB past his expiration date The enemy of my enemy is my friend was the only reason I was rooting for Dallas yesterday The Old Grey Goat aint what he use to be 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, row_33 said: seeing what, a stat that you have cherry picked and prorated for no reason? Pats are still the team to beat when it matters, no matter how Brady's TD total fails to impress you will you include moral victories achieved against the Pats, to detract from their 10-1 record? was that a moral victory for Dallas yesterday? I just have to question you. I wont cross any lines but it is something I have seen of you and seen often. your defense and admiration is off the charts for that team and I have to wonder how a bills fan and from what I gather, one for a long time, is so defensive of the evil empire and always seems to be propping them up? I get it, he and belly are the goat, no one will ever achieve such greatness again in the nfl. but, speaking for myself, they are the most hated team aside from the cowgirls and yes, it is because they have owned the bills. that being said, it's just strange that a claimed bills fan can continue to jump from thread to thread that has any relation to the evil empire and if one was to say anything out of line or not bow down in praise in their glory, there you are. to each their own I suppose. maybe they're your second favorite nfl team and I may be out of line in questioning what teams you're a fan of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: I just have to question you. I wont cross any lines but it is something I have seen of you and seen often. your defense and admiration is off the charts for that team and I have to wonder how a bills fan and from what I gather, one for a long time, is so defensive of the evil empire and always seems to be propping them up? I get it, he and belly are the goat, no one will ever achieve such greatness again in the nfl. but, speaking for myself, they are the most hated team aside from the cowgirls and yes, it is because they have owned the bills. that being said, it's just strange that a claimed bills fan can continue to jump from thread to thread that has any relation to the evil empire and if one was to say anything out of line or not bow down in praise in their glory, there you are. to each their own I suppose. maybe they're your second favorite nfl team and I may be out of line in questioning what teams you're a fan of? Well, except Josh Allen of course 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 30 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: Easy there ... I was just countering that post about 30 being the norm. Even the very diminished Peyton Manning won a SB past his expiration date The enemy of my enemy is my friend was the only reason I was rooting for Dallas yesterday The Old Grey Goat aint what he use to be I honestly don't see why he reacted towards you like that. You were clearly just pointing out that Allen is far superior than Brady. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 29 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: I just have to question you. I wont cross any lines but it is something I have seen of you and seen often. your defense and admiration is off the charts for that team and I have to wonder how a bills fan and from what I gather, one for a long time, is so defensive of the evil empire and always seems to be propping them up? I get it, he and belly are the goat, no one will ever achieve such greatness again in the nfl. but, speaking for myself, they are the most hated team aside from the cowgirls and yes, it is because they have owned the bills. that being said, it's just strange that a claimed bills fan can continue to jump from thread to thread that has any relation to the evil empire and if one was to say anything out of line or not bow down in praise in their glory, there you are. to each their own I suppose. maybe they're your second favorite nfl team and I may be out of line in questioning what teams you're a fan of? Closet pats fan? Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, row_33 said: seeing what, a stat that you have cherry picked and prorated for no reason? Pats are still the team to beat when it matters, no matter how Brady's TD total fails to impress you will you include moral victories achieved against the Pats, to detract from their 10-1 record? was that a moral victory for Dallas yesterday? #MassachusettsRow_33 Edited November 26, 2019 by Buftex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 21 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Through 11 games Allen has 15 passing TDs, to go with 7 rushing TDs. Not hard to figure out that if he keeps up this pace he'll finish with 32 total TDs. I believe the franchise record is 34 by Jim Kelly in 1991 (33 passing, 1 rushing). It is the only time Kelly did it. The thing is in checking this out it is the only time any Bills QB has been at 30 or over TDs. Unless I am missing something it hasn't ever happened, before or since. Even in Ferguson, Bledsoe and I think Fitzy years of 24 or so TD passes (there was a 25 in there, too), I don't believe any of them had 5-6 rushing TDs in a season to get to 30. I know this is just an individual player stat, and not necessarily a so sexy one as it includes rushing TDs, but still I just really found it kind of interesting. Even with some hick-ups he should really hit 30. On the other side of it I don't think it is crazy to think he has chance at possibly tying or even surpassing Kelly, albeit that would be a lot, but hey it would mean nice things for the way these last 5 games play out. Not bad for a second season. Go Allen, Go Bills! The Bills offense is set up to be not in a shoot out. Hence, scoring a lot of TDs is out of the question. Games like against Miami are a lot more rare for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 20 hours ago, BillsDude said: Nope. Will be so fat and stuffed from early Thanksgiving smorgasbord that I may not be able to get any beer in me. I will have no issues on the beer front! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ganesh said: The Bills offense is set up to be not in a shoot out. Hence, scoring a lot of TDs is out of the question. Games like against Miami are a lot more rare for this team. While we've seen that the indication may be true .... Who said or can prove the Defense will allow a blowout the way they are playing?? Total yards, Passing Yards, Points per game 3rd in the NFL and 15th against the rush. That I believe was due to one real crappy games where the opponents racked up 218 yards. 147 isn't horrendous just not great, 129 and 127 not elite either but ... and then 109, 105 and 5 under 85 yards The ONLY team to score more than 21 points was the Eagles game who had the 218 yards rushing and 153 passing yards. . Miami was the only team to break 20 points. All others less than 20 and finally NE*** with 4 turnovers only scored 16 points as a team. Edited November 26, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 On 11/25/2019 at 9:28 AM, BillsDude said: Nope. Will be so fat and stuffed from early Thanksgiving smorgasbord that I may not be able to get any beer in me. I have to internalize a bottle of Josh. It will be tough, but the Fan is Strong in me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 To think that Kelly never had the raw athleticism that Allen brings to the table, such that Allen even coming close to the pocket production of Kelly plus Allen’s rushing element, wowza he will then take over the franchise record books no doubt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: To think that Kelly never had the raw athleticism that Allen brings to the table, such that Allen even coming close to the pocket production of Kelly plus Allen’s rushing element, wowza he will then take over the franchise record books no doubt! Allen has a ways to go in developing his passing game, but given his progress this season I am cautiously optimistic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 I'll get excited when he has 30 passing tds and 7 rushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Kelly won AFC POY that year, ‘91. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said: Kelly won AFC POY that year, ‘91. All-time fav regular season year--highlighted by the Bills smacking the Steelers in the mouth early on, scoring 50+ points where they ran out of plays to run and basically resorted to playground ball to an always wide-open Don Beebe...yes indeed, those were the days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 On 11/25/2019 at 1:16 PM, RoboTronic said: And 30 TD's is really nothing in today's game. Shows how long the Bills have been without a decent QB. I wouldn't say 30 TDs is nothing in todays game. Sure, there are some that score 40 or 50 but that's not the norm. 30 is right around average to above average. Watson had 31 last year. Aaron Rodgers had 27. For instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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