STL-Bills Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 The past 3 weeks have had all of us questioning this team, no doubt. I’m going to say we take care of bitness against the Phins, Broncos, Jets and Steelers to finish 10-6 and make the playoffs for the first time in Josh Allen’s career. I won’t try and predict playoff success, but let’s assume we’re drafting somewhere in the 20-28 range. Most would agree the Bills need help at multiple positions, and WR would be near the top of that list. My choice would be Tyler Johnson from Minnesota. Last year, I was high on Terry McLaurin. Experienced guy with excellent separation and route running ability. These types of guys have proven over and over to be incredibly valuable. The athletic freaks are much harder to predict, and much more dangerous to pick. A guy like Johnson seems to be safer and have almost as high of a ceiling while also having a far higher floor. Check out the article below that outlines some of his abilities and highlight plays. He’s the real deal. GO BILLS! https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/minnesota-machine--tyler-johnson-needs-to-be-in-first-round-conversation 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 At the moment I would think Johnson is a day 2 guy but he could sneak into the 2nd half of day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Bills need a large man vs man go get the ball WR and he could be definitely worth a look thanks for sharing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Just now, ILBillsfan said: Bills need a large man vs man go get the ball WR and he could be definitely worth a look thanks for sharing This is #1 on my wish list for this offseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Theres so many good WR’s in this class, value Might be for an Edge in rd 1 and WR in two. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 53 minutes ago, STL-Bills said: The past 3 weeks have had all of us questioning this team, no doubt. I’m going to say we take care of bitness against the Phins, Broncos, Jets and Steelers to finish 10-6 and make the playoffs for the first time in Josh Allen’s career. I won’t try and predict playoff success, but let’s assume we’re drafting somewhere in the 20-28 range. Most would agree the Bills need help at multiple positions, and WR would be near the top of that list. My choice would be Tyler Johnson from Minnesota. Last year, I was high on Terry McLaurin. Experienced guy with excellent separation and route running ability. These types of guys have proven over and over to be incredibly valuable. The athletic freaks are much harder to predict, and much more dangerous to pick. A guy like Johnson seems to be safer and have almost as high of a ceiling while also having a far higher floor. Check out the article below that outlines some of his abilities and highlight plays. He’s the real deal. GO BILLS! https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/minnesota-machine--tyler-johnson-needs-to-be-in-first-round-conversation Your description of Tyler sounds similar to the descriptions of Zay Jones when he was drafted. I'm not saying this as a bash on Jones, but I don't think its the kind of WR we need. We need a guy with an exceptional catch radius, and high pointing ability. I have more trepidation with guys who are described as "NFL ready" than I do with guys described as "athletic freaks." I feel like I could get behind an athletic freak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 The big question is whether our team can identify the right WR. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Just now, Saint Doug said: The big question is whether our team can identify the right WR. There is also the question of BPA. I know that WR is a need. But, it's not our only need. Beane, and company have been pretty good about drafting BPA, with our needs in mind. It's very hard to predict who BPA is at the middle of the board, where we will certainly be. But, if there's a better edge rusher than WR, that's what we're going to get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 My draft crushes are Tee Higgins and CeeDee Lamb. I really think we will be too far down for Lamb, so Higgins is my guy. He’s 6’4” and has a championship pedigree. Exactly what Allen needs opposite Brown. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, whorlnut said: My draft crushes are Tee Higgins and CeeDee Lamb. I really think we will be too far down for Lamb, so Higgins is my guy. He’s 6’4” and has a championship pedigree. Exactly what Allen needs opposite Brown. CeeDee Lamb would be my choice as well. The Bills have equal need of an edge rusher and wide receiver, it will be interesting to see how they fill these needs, whether through the draft or free agency or both. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Obviously another WR is needed, an elite one at that. Wouldn’t mind a RT and bumping Ford into LG, leave Feliciano in at RG. Also, we’ll need another CB and a few LBs. For a 6-3 team I see some glaring weaknesses. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, whorlnut said: My draft crushes are Tee Higgins and CeeDee Lamb. I really think we will be too far down for Lamb, so Higgins is my guy. He’s 6’4” and has a championship pedigree. Exactly what Allen needs opposite Brown. Tee Higgins is my guy as well. Exactly what Allen needs in a boundary WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Draft a WR with the #1 overall? Seriously? And who's throwing to this paragon? The pull-it-out-your-ass wins are over and I suspect the Bills to be drafting between 8-12. First overall pick has to be a QB. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Sunshower said: Obviously another WR is needed, an elite one at that. Wouldn’t mind a RT and bumping Ford into LG, leave Feliciano in at RG. Also, we’ll need another CB and a few LBs. For a 6-3 team I see some glaring weaknesses. Spain has been pretty good, no? I don’t think o-line is a pressing offseason need. JMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Just now, Johnny Hammersticks said: Spain has been pretty good, no? I don’t think o-line is a pressing offseason need. JMO. I’m not a big believer in Spain, I’d rather put Ford at LG and bring in a dominant RT. Dawkins-Ford-Morse-Feliciano-New guy By the way, a quality corner is a huge need as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Its gonna be a lb to replace LA.....McD is calling this shot imho. D focused. wr in rnd 2.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sunshower said: I’m not a big believer in Spain, I’d rather put Ford at LG and bring in a dominant RT. Dawkins-Ford-Morse-Feliciano-New guy By the way, a quality corner is a huge need as well. Agreed about CB being a need, but I think you’re writing off Ford at RG a little too quickly. He is a rookie. I have the offseason needs as follows: 1. Edge 2. WR 3. LB (is Edmunds better suited for SOLB?) 4. CB 5. DT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Will be working on my Christmas list for Santa for another month. Then be busy with the Holidays through the New Year. After that I'll give this matter some thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Its gonna be a lb to replace LA.....McD is calling this shot imho. D focused. wr in rnd 2.... I think they might be moving Edmunds to Alexander's spot. Vosean Joseph would move into that middle spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Agreed about CB being a need, but I think you’re writing off Ford at RG a little too quickly. He is a rookie. I have the offseason needs as follows: 1. Edge 2. WR 3. LB (is Edmunds better suited for SOLB?) 4. CB 5. DT I’d prefer a WR round 1, someone with star power. I think a game breaker there fixes our offense. The reason why I wouldn’t put Ford at RG is because Feliciano has proven to be an above average starter. I think you leave him there. Matter of fact I think Feliciano should be extended in the offseason. LB to me is a big issue. Edmunds and Milano have serious potential but there’s nobody behind them. Corner is getting our defense abused. Levi is getting beat like a drum and I think a shutdown corner opposite of Tre turns our defense into a machine. As far as DE goes. I think Murphy needs to go. Shaq is a guy I’d bring back as a rotational piece so long as it doesn’t cost much. Darryl Johnson I’m convinced is a potential gem. He could be a starter at LE and we still got Hughes at RE. I think if the draft were tomorrow I’d go: 1. WR 2. CB 3. RT 4. LB 5. DE We also have some scratch to play around with in free agency and we can move up a few times with ease into RDs 2-3. Edited November 16, 2019 by Sunshower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, yungmack said: Draft a WR with the #1 overall? Seriously? And who's throwing to this paragon? The pull-it-out-your-ass wins are over and I suspect the Bills to be drafting between 8-12. First overall pick has to be a QB. ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Spain has been pretty good, no? I don’t think o-line is a pressing offseason need. JMO. Spain has been good. After being up and down the first 5 weeks he has really found a good consistent level of performance. One year contract though. I suspect it will cost more to sign him next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Wouldn't mind A stud MLBer to get Edmunds out of that spot. That experiment isn’t going too well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 hours ago, whatdrought said: Theres so many good WR’s in this class, value Might be for an Edge in rd 1 and WR in two. Leave it to the Bills to draft a DL in a WR heavy draft We already made that mistake this past year. Don't make it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I want a number 1 wide receiver...... If we can find Johnson in the late rounds like we did.....we can find a pass rusher in round 2.....LETS GET JOSH ALLEN A NUMBER ONE WIDE RECIEVER 10 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Wouldn't mind A stud MLBer to get Edmunds out of that spot. That experiment isn’t going too well It is actually going just fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Spain has been good. After being up and down the first 5 weeks he has really found a good consistent level of performance. One year contract though. I suspect it will cost more to sign him next year. Perhaps. I could see Ryan Bates sliding into that spot also. I would like to see them extend Spain for a year or two though. Everyone else (Dawkins, Long, Feliciano, Bates, Ford, Morse, Nsekhe) is locked up at least through next season. I think we are pretty well set at o-line without using any significant draft assets. I’d rather use my top picks on WR, Edge, LB, and CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Perhaps. I could see Ryan Bates sliding into that spot also. I would like to see them extend Spain for a year or two though. Everyone else (Dawkins, Long, Feliciano, Bates, Ford, Morse, Nsekhe) is locked up at least through next season. I think we are pretty well set at o-line without using any significant draft assets. I’d rather use my top picks on WR, Edge, LB, and CB. I'd take another developmental tackle but not day 1 or 2. I think both Dawkins and Spain have got better as the season has gone on and the chemistry has clearly developed between the two of them. I think the Bills will be interested in extending Spain IF they want to persist with Ford at RT. If they don't then their way to get Ford into the starting lineup is at a guard spot. I actually think Feliciano's play has dropped off the last few games but the coaches like him and they will persist with him I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I will be shocked if they don't draft a WR in the 1st. Couldnt tell you who but they're going to add some talent to this offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I would want the draft to go something like: 1st round: BPA of WR, Edge, LB 2nd round: BPA of WR, Edge, LB 3rd round: BPA of WR, Edge, LB Subsequent rounds: BPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 4 hours ago, STL-Bills said: The past 3 weeks have had all of us questioning this team, no doubt. I’m going to say we take care of bitness against the Phins, Broncos, Jets and Steelers to finish 10-6 and make the playoffs for the first time in Josh Allen’s career. I won’t try and predict playoff success, but let’s assume we’re drafting somewhere in the 20-28 range. Most would agree the Bills need help at multiple positions, and WR would be near the top of that list. My choice would be Tyler Johnson from Minnesota. Last year, I was high on Terry McLaurin. Experienced guy with excellent separation and route running ability. These types of guys have proven over and over to be incredibly valuable. The athletic freaks are much harder to predict, and much more dangerous to pick. A guy like Johnson seems to be safer and have almost as high of a ceiling while also having a far higher floor. Check out the article below that outlines some of his abilities and highlight plays. He’s the real deal. GO BILLS! https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/minnesota-machine--tyler-johnson-needs-to-be-in-first-round-conversation I saw him against Penn St and he looked pretty good, wouldn't be upset about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Would also like WR Cee Dee Lamb S Grant Delpit CB Lamar Jackson DT Javon Kinlaw OG Tyler Biadasz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustWinPlease Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 4 hours ago, STL-Bills said: The past 3 weeks have had all of us questioning this team, no doubt. I’m going to say we take care of bitness against the Phins, Broncos, Jets and Steelers to finish 10-6 and make the playoffs for the first time in Josh Allen’s career. I won’t try and predict playoff success, but let’s assume we’re drafting somewhere in the 20-28 range. Most would agree the Bills need help at multiple positions, and WR would be near the top of that list. My choice would be Tyler Johnson from Minnesota. Last year, I was high on Terry McLaurin. Experienced guy with excellent separation and route running ability. These types of guys have proven over and over to be incredibly valuable. The athletic freaks are much harder to predict, and much more dangerous to pick. A guy like Johnson seems to be safer and have almost as high of a ceiling while also having a far higher floor. Check out the article below that outlines some of his abilities and highlight plays. He’s the real deal. GO BILLS! https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/minnesota-machine--tyler-johnson-needs-to-be-in-first-round-conversation WR IS at the top of the list...multiple offensive weapons should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: I want a number 1 wide receiver...... If we can find Johnson in the late rounds like we did.....we can find a pass rusher in round 2.....LETS GET JOSH ALLEN A NUMBER ONE WIDE RECIEVER It is actually going just fine We must be watching a different guy then ??♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Sunshower said: Obviously another WR is needed, an elite one at that. Wouldn’t mind a RT and bumping Ford into LG, leave Feliciano in at RG. Also, we’ll need another CB and a few LBs. For a 6-3 team I see some glaring weaknesses. I wouldn't say glaring but definitely in need of an upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said: Leave it to the Bills to draft a DL in a WR heavy draft We already made that mistake this past year. Don't make it again. You have to look at positional stength. If there’s 15 good receivers and only 5 good edge rushers, you gotta take the edge first. But it’s too early to say anything anyways. My preference is to sign an edge and then draft a WR. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 minute ago, CaptnCoke11 said: We must be watching a different guy then ??♂️ Leads the team in tackles Is the exact fit for what McD is looking for a MLB Makes it very hard to pass over the middle He isnt that stick his head in a behive MLB that cant cover anybody but is always in the right place at the right time vs the run Its all about what the defense is looking for out of its MLB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Saint Doug said: The big question is whether our team can identify the right WR. Will our team be allowed the use of two hands and a flashlight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 39 minutes ago, whatdrought said: You have to look at positional stength. If there’s 15 good receivers and only 5 good edge rushers, you gotta take the edge first. But it’s too early to say anything anyways. My preference is to sign an edge and then draft a WR. And yet, wasn't DL a positional strength this past year? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: And yet, wasn't DL a positional strength this past year? You are assuming that the top DL of this past draft wont end up being studs.....which is foolish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 RB Chuba Hubbard is my guy outta OK St. Him and motor would be an excellent tandem for 3-4 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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