YoloinOhio Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Hmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Not surprising. He’s not very good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Liked him a lot as a person here, but as a player he struggles big time in coverage. He would be better off fitting into a 3-4 base scheme and not being a 3 down linebacker. They have a younger option in Germaine Pratt they probably want to see for the rest of the year. Wouldnt bring him back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Do it. Put him at the Mike and move Edmunds to the Elephant role, let him rush the passer where he has a chance to be ELITE. You want to shake things up and tilt the field a bit? Time to make a move, McBeane. 5 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Bucs also just released Vernon Hargreaves cb former first rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Just now, Seoulofstone said: Bucs also just released Vernon Hargreaves cb former first rounder. I would Claim him and Brown actually. Both are improvements on the Bottom end of the Roster. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) Do they both have to go through waivers or are they free to be signed? Edited November 12, 2019 by Dablitzkrieg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Just now, Dablitzkrieg said: Do they both have to go through waivers or are they free to be signed? Everyone goes through Waivers post trade deadline 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Wasn't he the number one ranked tackler in the NFL in 2017? He must have dropped right off the edge of the cliff this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 I hope we bring him in. Let min backup Lorenzo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Seoulofstone said: Bucs also just released Vernon Hargreaves cb former first rounder. He was benched for poor work ethic 2 weeks ago Edited November 12, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Bengals are a huge tire fire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: Wasn't he the number one ranked tackler in the NFL in 2017? He must have dropped right off the edge of the cliff this year. I would say he’s been average against the run this year and flat awful in coverage Edited November 12, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Do it. Put him at the Mike and move Edmunds to the Elephant role, let him rush the passer where he has a chance to be ELITE. You want to shake things up and tilt the field a bit? Time to make a move, McBeane. No. Just no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I would Claim him and Brown actually. Both are improvements on the Bottom end of the Roster. He was picked 11 overall and CBs seem to slot into the Bills secondary so well. However I don't think they will get a chance on waivers. Edited November 12, 2019 by Seoulofstone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: He was benched for poor work ethic 2 weeks ago True McD's only willing to improve the roster if the player fits their "Process", "DNA" and "Family man" view of players 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I would Claim him and Brown actually. Both are improvements on the Bottom end of the Roster. Hargreaves has a 9 mill salary in 2020 if claimed on waivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Good run stopper. Liability in pass coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Hargreaves has a 9 mill salary in 2020 if claimed on waivers Yep his 5th year option (not guaranteed) so if he doesnt do anything or fit they can always move on. If he does you finally found your Solid CB2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Hargreaves has a 9 mill salary in 2020 if claimed on waivers Comp pick at the end of season if he doesn't fit though. That alone might be worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: True McD's only willing to improve the roster if the player fits their "Process", "DNA" and "Family man" view of players Poor work ethic at football. What does that have to do with him not being a family man. I’m not talking about him not completing his honey do list. Edited November 12, 2019 by YoloinOhio 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 minute ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: No. Just no. It's not a long-term solution. They need to draft or sign a thumper this offseason and move Edmunds outside. But in the meantime they've run out of sacks and turnovers and the lack of a pass rush is the biggest reason. And they're getting gashed in the run game, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Good run stopper. Liability in pass coverage. Dont need any of those right now Just now, YoloinOhio said: Poor work ethic at football. What does that have to do with him not being a family man. I’m not talking about him not completing his honey do list. Change of Scenery. Low Risk High Reward claim. I know they wont do it though and just shows that their claim of always looking for improvement is limited as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Preston Brown and Zach Brown. Neither was impressive after they left Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Preston was the weaker of the two browns. We didn’t even try to match their one year offer of 4 mil, if that tells you what we thought of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Just now, Virgil said: Preston was the weaker of the two browns. We didn’t even try to match their one year offer of 4 mil, if that tells you what we thought of him We also let an Elite CB go for nothing so what does that tell you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beacon Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 No thank you. Brown just stood there when Gronk mugged White. Him and 30 should have been all over that cheap shot. Plus, he wasn't any good to begin with. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: It's not a long-term solution. They need to draft or sign a thumper this offseason and move Edmunds outside. But in the meantime they've run out of sacks and turnovers and the lack of a pass rush is the biggest reason. And they're getting gashed in the run game, anyway. Edmunds is the lynchpin of the pass defense and far from the problem in the rush defense. Edmunds is never going to move; you guys need to let it go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) Brown can't out-work or out-play second string guys on a winless team yet people want him here. Right. Hargreaves has only ever played one full season, his rookie year. Played in 9 games in 2017 and all of one game in 2018. So, he's got an injury history and he's not very good but somehow he's an instant upgrade over Levi Wallace who, like any DB, has had some struggles in the last two games, but overall has been very solid and surely better than Hargreaves considering he's still employed and Hargreaves isn't. But yeah, let's get that guy in here cause, you know, people have heard of him. There isn't an eye roll gif big enough for this caca. Edited November 12, 2019 by blacklabel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: We also let an Elite CB go for nothing so what does that tell you? 15 mil a year was hardly nothing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) Just now, Virgil said: 15 mil a year was hardly nothing Did we pay 15M a year? Nope we should have Tagged and Traded, that is what a GOOD SMART Front Office would have done. We were selling out talent that year, why would you let on walk for NOTHING? Edited November 12, 2019 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 PB Blaster >>> Morax, so he's good depth. Git 'r' dun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 And here we go. Any guy cut by another team must be an upgrade to a 6-3 team. Makes a ton of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Did we pay 15M a year? Nope we should have Tagged and Traded, that is what a GOOD SMART Front Office would have done. We were selling out talent that year, why would you let on walk for NOTHING? Well, that’s assuming someone would give something up for him, knowing they also have to sign him. It would have taken the Pats out of the equation immediately, as I doubt we were trading him within our division. But I agree with your point. He was the first player to sign in FA, if I remember correctly. We pry could have gotten something for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Just now, Virgil said: Well, that’s assuming someone would give something up for him, knowing they also have to sign him. It would have taken the Pats out of the equation immediately, as I doubt we were trading him within our division. But I agree with your point. He was the first player to sign in FA, if I remember correctly. We pry could have gotten something for him. Look at what CBs have been traded we would have gotten Multiple Picks for Gilmore to include at least one 1st. 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: And here we go. Any guy cut by another team must be an upgrade to a 6-3 team. Makes a ton of sense. It is. Brown is better than Julian Stanford and Corey Thomson so yep it would be an upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Look at what CBs have been traded we would have gotten Multiple Picks for Gilmore to include at least one 1st. I think that’s a recent thing honestly. Trades weren’t going down like that a few years back. I doubt we would’ve gotten a first for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 29 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Poor work ethic at football. What does that have to do with him not being a family man. I’m not talking about him not completing his honey do list. Its the Bills message board hyperbole. His narrative is in line with "McDermott only signs Christians." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Virgil said: I think that’s a recent thing honestly. Trades weren’t going down like that a few years back. I doubt we would’ve gotten a first for him. Got a 3rd and a WR for Darby (lesser player by alot) He would have easily gotten a 1st. But again just the short sightedness of McD https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/trade_finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=2016&year_max=2019&pos[]=cb&draft_pick_min=1&draft_pick_max=256&order_by=trans_date Edited November 12, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 I wouldn’t want him starting but he’s cheap depth to the LB core, they know when and where to play him based on his skill set, and he knows the D. I wouldn’t complain if they claimed him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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