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***** him.  
 

I don’t care if the article says he built a children’s hospital by hand.  
 

May he give Brady a horribly painful STD

 

Between how he has run up scores in the past, never disciplined his players for cheap plays, consistently spits in the face of the league, and overall presents himself, he’s not a person I’d ever want my kid to play for.  
 

Winning isn’t everything. 

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15 minutes ago, Virgil said:

***** him.  
 

I don’t care if the article says he built a children’s hospital by hand.  
 

May he give Brady a horribly painful STD

 

Between how he has run up scores in the past, never disciplined his players for cheap plays, consistently spits in the face of the league, and overall presents himself, he’s not a person I’d ever want my kid to play for.  
 

Winning isn’t everything. 

The point of football and sports is to win. I don't care how Blue Collar a guy is or how likeable the team is. I just want to win and look good doing it. I want my team to dominate and destroy teams. Only Bills fans want the Blue Collar to go with winning. 

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8 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

WE DON’T NEED NEW PATS* THREADS ON A BILLS BOARD

 

We don't need a bunch of anti-Bills/anti-Josh Allen crusades, either.  The title was clear.  You no likee?  Move along. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Virgil said:

***** him.  
 

I don’t care if the article says he built a children’s hospital by hand.  
 

May he give Brady a horribly painful STD

 

Between how he has run up scores in the past, never disciplined his players for cheap plays, consistently spits in the face of the league, and overall presents himself, he’s not a person I’d ever want my kid to play for.  
 

Winning isn’t everything. 

 

We only see what the media shows us.  I bet if you talked to anyone who ever played for him or had any sort of relationship with him, they would say otherwise.  He's apparently incredibly loyal to the people he works with and is known to do right by his word.  It's very difficult for me to feel bad for the NFL (that he 'spits in the face of') when IMO they have blundered their way to ridiculous profits at the cost of the health of 1000s of past players.  The NFL shield is just a mega-corporation, bud.

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1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said:

WE DON’T NEED NEW PATS* THREADS ON A BILLS BOARD

Good luck with that.

 

Here are the threads we are doomed to see for a while yet:

 

1) Buffalo and/or the Bills get no respect from national media! 

2) The Buffalo News sucks!

3) Mike Schopp is horrible and so is WGR-550!

4) The Patriots are cheaters!

5) Patriots fans are dumb and terrible!  

6) Bill Belichick is a cheating scumbag! 

7) Tom Brady sucks, despite being the best ever at his position! 

8) Josh Allen is, in actuality, a good QB despite how it looks rationalization threads

9) Anything perpetuating the now long dead former rivalry with the Dolphins

10) You fill in the blank

 

:lol:

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32 minutes ago, Jobot said:

 

We only see what the media shows us.  I bet if you talked to anyone who ever played for him or had any sort of relationship with him, they would say otherwise.  He's apparently incredibly loyal to the people he works with and is known to do right by his word.  It's very difficult for me to feel bad for the NFL (that he 'spits in the face of') when IMO they have blundered their way to ridiculous profits at the cost of the health of 1000s of past players.  The NFL shield is just a mega-corporation, bud.


There’s actually a lot of evidence that points to the contrary.  Now, you could say that the players who leave are upset they didn’t get paid or got cut, but even Gronk made comments about how no fun that place was under him.  

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5 minutes ago, Virgil said:


There’s actually a lot of evidence that points to the contrary.  Now, you could say that the players who leave are upset they didn’t get paid or got cut, but even Gronk made comments about how no fun that place was under him.  

 

If it was supposed to be fun, it wouldn't be called work.

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Remember when Belichick coached the Jets?  For all of fifteen minutes?  And quit by writing "I quit" on a napkin during the press conference announcing his hiring?

 

Let's not beatify him just yet.  The guy's still an #######.

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Recently saw an fairly long interview a lady reporter did with him covering his coaching career and life philosophy. Quite different from his post game presser persona. If you suit up for him I'm sure you have no chance but to do things his way, but if you do that my impression is he probably treats his players right. I don't know if he's the GOAT but for sure he's fit to be mentioned in the same breath as Halas, Lombardi, Shula, Landry.

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7 minutes ago, Virgil said:


There’s actually a lot of evidence that points to the contrary.  Now, you could say that the players who leave are upset they didn’t get paid or got cut, but even Gronk made comments about how no fun that place was under him.  

 

All players at some point in their career get cut.  Being up front and honest with people is all I think you can ask in those situations which I've never heard a story of Bellicheck doing any backstabbing.


As for Gronk... he's a nut and also could have left sooner if having fun was his top priority.  You can't argue that Belichick doesn't get the best out of his players better than anyone else in the game.

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2 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

Remember when Belichick coached the Jets?  For all of fifteen minutes?  And quit by writing "I quit" on a napkin during the press conference announcing his hiring?

 

Let's not beatify him just yet.  The guy's still an #######.

 

Remember when he walked off the field before the super bowl ended?

 

There isn't enough disparaging words to describe the man, elite coach? yes, definitely, maybe greatest ever but his acts of unsportsmanlike behavior will always anchor him towards the bottom.

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1 hour ago, Gugny said:

 

We don't need a bunch of anti-Bills/anti-Josh Allen crusades, either.  The title was clear.  You no likee?  Move along. 

 

 

 

"Part of me thinks that, if the Bills price me out, I'd just latch onto a team that's closer to me.

 

I've always said that if I lived 2 hours closer to Buffalo, I'd be a season ticket holder.  I could do that with one of the New Jersey teams and be able to afford going to games.

 

Anyone else giving this any thought?  I hate the thought of being gouged out of my fandom, but it looks like it's heading in that direction."

 

 

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5 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

Recently saw an fairly long interview a lady reporter did with him covering his coaching career and life philosophy. Quite different from his post game presser persona. If you suit up for him I'm sure you have no chance but to do things his way, but if you do that my impression is he probably treats his players right. I don't know if he's the GOAT but for sure he's fit to be mentioned in the same breath as Halas, Lombardi, Shula, Landry.

 

Remember when Tom Landry coached the Browns to a 36-44 record?

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1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

"Part of me thinks that, if the Bills price me out, I'd just latch onto a team that's closer to me.

 

I've always said that if I lived 2 hours closer to Buffalo, I'd be a season ticket holder.  I could do that with one of the New Jersey teams and be able to afford going to games.

 

Anyone else giving this any thought?  I hate the thought of being gouged out of my fandom, but it looks like it's heading in that direction."

 

 

 

You dirty rat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   That wasn't anti-Bills!  It was anti-gouging!!!

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9 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

Remember when Belichick coached the Jets?  For all of fifteen minutes?  And quit by writing "I quit" on a napkin during the press conference announcing his hiring?

 

Let's not beatify him just yet.  The guy's still an #######.

 

It doesn't get much Jetsier than that.

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6 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Remember when Tom Landry coached the Browns to a 36-44 record?

But to be fair, Landry was only 18-46-4 in his first five seasons as a HC, so he sucked early on as well.

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It's hard not to respect Belichick because he is undeniably one of the greatest coaches ever. However, whenever I think of him, I'm always gonna think of the scandals he found himself in and wonder the things he did that we *don't* know about. Dude has no problem pushing the boundaries when it comes to the rules, even stepping over the line at times and then claiming ignorance. He'll do whatever he can to find any advantage. So yeah, great coach, but I'm probably always gonna be skeptical on whether or not the advantages they found were due to his coaching or due to his willingness to skirt the rules a little.

 

Either way, Edelman has a great story about Belichick. It's on YouTube, I think Edelman actually has his own channel and somehow I ended up there. But he tells a story of the first time he ever spoke to Belichick. He also says in all the years he's played for him, he's probably only had maybe eight or nine non-football conversations with him. Belichick really personifies the whole Oz/man behind the curtain thing in terms of his coaching style.

 

Anyway, I think Edelman said it was his rookie year or at least early in his career. He was putting in extra work so he'd come back to the facility later at night to get in a workout. He says one night he goes in there and sees Belichick in the gym, way off in a dark corner, working out on an elliptical, illuminated only by the tablet he has in front of him where he's watching film. Edelman, still feeling like one of the new guys, doesn't wanna bother him so he just nods and goes about his workout. Belichick steps out a within a few minutes. Edelman finishes up his workout and wants to hit the hot tub to recover. He heads over to the tubs and who does he find in the hot tub all by himself... Belichick. Edelman just says, "Uh, hey coach." Belichick doesn't say a word, just stands up, steps out of the tub, butt-a$$ naked and walks out. Edelman's like, "Uh, alrighty," hops in the tub for a minute, which, by the way, he makes a point to mention how the guys always wear trunks in the tubs, not ol' Bill, though. Edelman finishes up, packs up his stuff and is headed out to leave around midnight. As he makes his way to the exit, bam, there's Belichick again, also leaving. Edelman just says something like, "Working hard, huh coach?" And Belichick just shrugs and says, "Eh, beats being a plumber," and walks out. I thought it was pretty funny. What we see of these guys isn't always indicative of who they actually are.

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Have to admit that the first thing that popped in my head when I read the OP subject line, was an image of Belichick playing the role of Hannibal Lecter and Darnold as Clarice.

 

The way he creepily grinned on the sideline as Darnold was falling apart on the other side of the field.

 

"Have the lambs stopped screaming Samuel"?

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, starrymessenger said:

 

Gameday face. Lions fans. And yeah definitely not a nice guy. Nice guys finish last.

Just win baby.

His quick glance towards the kids and then to the crowd is me when I pretend not to see panhandlers.

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