YoloinOhio Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) Edited October 22, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) I don’t know how many of you are religious but those who partake please say a prayer that Milano’s hammy allows him to play in this game. I think his absence yesterday was very evident in many places - covering the TE, run D etc. Edited October 21, 2019 by YoloinOhio 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I watched that and couldn't believe what little effort I saw. That was a catchable ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 What that just one of those weird camera angles where it looks like the ball was right next to the receiver but in reality it was not? A depth perception thing or something? I don’t know, otherwise that was a terrible effort. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t know how many of you are religious but those who partake please say a prayer that Milano’s hammy allows him to play in this game. I think his absence yesterday was very evident in many places - covering the TE, run D etc. Ertz/Goedert will be a handful no matter what. They really need Milano healthy to keep things reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 So, on an even playing field, a hobbled 3-4 team that just got destroyed is a point & a half favorite over a healthy 5-1 team. Okayyyyyyy- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, r00tabaga said: So, on an even playing field, a hobbled 3-4 team that just got destroyed is a point & a half favorite over a healthy 5-1 team. Okayyyyyyy- I think it’s fair if you look at the talent on both sides - i think it’s really a coin flip type game. My big concern is their DL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zow2 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Eagles are coming in pissed after two straight huge road losses. This will be a tough one. When NFL teams get blown out they usually come back and play well. Bills need to be better prepared than yesterday or it’s a big loss. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 41 minutes ago, r00tabaga said: So, on an even playing field, a hobbled 3-4 team that just got destroyed is a point & a half favorite over a healthy 5-1 team. Okayyyyyyy- doesn't that read Bills -1.5? That would make Bills favorite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, nucci said: doesn't that read Bills -1.5? That would make Bills favorite I think he's subtracting out the 3 point cushion we get for home field advantage. We would be dogs on a neutral field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: I think he's subtracting out the 3 point cushion we get for home field advantage. We would be dogs on a neutral field. but that's not how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, nucci said: but that's not how it works. Ummm, I prefaced with "neutral field". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, nucci said: doesn't that read Bills -1.5? That would make Bills favorite Bills Open as 1.5-Point Favorites Over Eagles in Week 8, Spread Quickly Moves to a Pick The challenge here is that bettors continue to be very forgiving to the Eagles, as they’re still viewed as a Super Bowl contender. Clearly, they have some issues as they’ve lost by 18 or more in back-to-back weeks, but the general perception is that this is a good team that’s underachieved. Remember that the Bills might be 5-1 but the general feeling is that they’ve mostly beat up on bad competition. Their five wins have come against teams that are a combined 6-26. However, the Eagles have just three wins on the year, two of which have come against the Redskins and Jets. I’m expecting this line to creep up and the Bills to close in the -1.5 to -2.5 range. So get them at a pick wile you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 IMO, Wentz is a one dimensional quarterback in that if you eliminate Zach Ertz as a target for him, that offense struggles mightily. He's poor at distributing the ball. Their Lions and Cowboys games are blueprints on how to do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, dpberr said: IMO, Wentz is a one dimensional quarterback in that if you eliminate Zach Ertz as a target for him, that offense struggles mightily. He's poor at distributing the ball. Their Lions and Cowboys games are blueprints on how to do it. Ertz will not be easy for the Bills to deal with without Milano. They sucked covering the TE yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Codyny13 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I think Milano would have gone yesterday if it were a do or die game, playoff, anything like that. You saw him running full speed threw drills on the Bills Snapchat on Thursday last week. They’ve erred on the side of caution all year, and I think they looked ahead to this matchup for him. Hoping the defense is back to 100 % this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, zow2 said: Eagles are coming in pissed after two straight huge road losses. This will be a tough one. When NFL teams get blown out they usually come back and play well. Bills need to be better prepared than yesterday or it’s a big loss. Yeah? and what do they do after getting smoked like a ham two weeks in a row? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 NFC team this week, pressure is off. This win is gravy, win the AFC games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 There is already a thread for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: Bills Open as 1.5-Point Favorites Over Eagles in Week 8, Spread Quickly Moves to a Pick The challenge here is that bettors continue to be very forgiving to the Eagles, as they’re still viewed as a Super Bowl contender. Clearly, they have some issues as they’ve lost by 18 or more in back-to-back weeks, but the general perception is that this is a good team that’s underachieved. Remember that the Bills might be 5-1 but the general feeling is that they’ve mostly beat up on bad competition. Their five wins have come against teams that are a combined 6-26. However, the Eagles have just three wins on the year, two of which have come against the Redskins and Jets. I’m expecting this line to creep up and the Bills to close in the -1.5 to -2.5 range. So get them at a pick wile you can. The only game I picked wrong this year was the Pats' game, and that was because the Pats did not cover the spread. This is the game I don't bet at all (in addition to Pats). My brain tells me this is the games the Bills' drop (and I refuse to bet against the Bills). I'm not convinced we are as good as our record indicates, and Philly is a team with a ton of talent that, if they do not win this week, will be out of the playoff race. I think they come out all engines firing. Edited October 21, 2019 by JoshAllenHasBigHands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 my initial gut reaction early this morning was that the Eagles are a desperate wounded animal, they’re going to come in and throw for 350+ yards against our defense, right the ship defensively, and win in a blowout while the gaggle of Philthy fans who are sure to be in attendance laugh at us and throw batteries onto the field. But when I think about it more... I believe we will actually show up prepared for this one and play like the 5-1 team we are. 27-20 Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Passer rating is a poor way to evaluate Jackson right now. He played really well yesterday. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, dave mcbride said: Passer rating is a poor way to evaluate Jackson right now. He played really well yesterday. Again, if Josh Allen had that game yesterday, he'd be getting crucified. The dude is what he is, and that's what everyone thought he was. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Again, if Josh Allen had that game yesterday, he'd be getting crucified. The dude is what he is, and that's what everyone thought he was. No he wouldn't, because the Bills would have put up 30 points against a very good team in a very difficult place to play during a rainstorm. Plus he would have rushed for 116 yards on 14 carries. Maybe some would have criticized him for "not playing like a QB," but that's a very limiting prism through which to evaluate a QB's overall contribution. Please explain your laugh remark too. Do you think Jackson played poorly? Did you watch the game? I did. Allen played quite well yesterday himself, and really bounced back in the second half after a bad first half. Edited October 21, 2019 by dave mcbride 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Again, if Josh Allen had that game yesterday, he'd be getting crucified. The dude is what he is, and that's what everyone thought he was. Big Facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, dave mcbride said: No he wouldn't, because the Bills would have put up 30 points against a very good team in a very difficult place to play during a rainstorm. Plus he would have rushed for 116 yards on 14 carries. Maybe some would have criticized him for "not playing like a QB," but that's a very limiting prism through which to evaluate a QB's overall contribution. Allen played quite well yesterday himself, and really bounced back in the second half after a bad first half. If he'd had a 50% passing day for under 200 yards and no passing td? yeah, he'd be flambee'd here. I mean, you're entitled to think he's playing well as a QB, but having been around here as long as I have, MOST posters here would have a problem with that kind of performance from the QB position. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: If he'd had a 50% passing day for under 200 yards and no passing td? yeah, he'd be flambee'd here. I mean, you're entitled to think he's playing well as a QB, but having been around here as long as I have, MOST posters here would have a problem with that kind of performance from the QB position. The Ravens are 11-3 when he starts, and he has a QB rating of 89.9 plus nearly 1,300 yards rushing and 8 TDs in 14 games. At some point, the preconceived narrative has to shift in the face of actual evidence that cuts against it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Again, if Josh Allen had that game yesterday, he'd be getting crucified. The dude is what he is, and that's what everyone thought he was. For crying out loud, I've been hearing how passer rating is the best way to rate a QB for weeks on here. Now, Allen has a great one and its near meaningless. SMDH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: For crying out loud, I've been hearing how passer rating is the best way to rate a QB for weeks on here. Now, Allen has a great one and its near meaningless. SMDH Who here actually said that? I certainly didn't. Read what I wrote (and I'm the only one who brought this issue up, and related it specifically to Jackson). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: For crying out loud, I've been hearing how passer rating is the best way to rate a QB for weeks on here. Now, Allen has a great one and its near meaningless. SMDH Exactly. Lamar gets kid gloves treatment here for his play AS A QB, while doing things that people decry Allen for, when Allen has arguably FAR less to work with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Who here actually said that? I certainly didn't. Read what I wrote (and I'm the only one who brought this issue up, and related it specifically to Jackson). Feelings of guilt, why so defensive, not aimed at you. You know darn well what the narrative has been about Allen on this site, from many posters. Edited October 21, 2019 by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Feelings of guilt, why so defensive, not aimed at you. You know darn well what the narrative has been about Allen on this site, from many posters. I don't really pay attention to them, to be honest. Bear in mind that I have been on this site for years beating the drum that the traditional team passer rating differential is the most accurate predictor of success (outside of points scored differential!) that exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 ESPN app now showing Bills -2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsker4life Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: No he wouldn't, because the Bills would have put up 30 points against a very good team in a very difficult place to play during a rainstorm. Plus he would have rushed for 116 yards on 14 carries. Maybe some would have criticized him for "not playing like a QB," but that's a very limiting prism through which to evaluate a QB's overall contribution. Please explain your laugh remark too. Do you think Jackson played poorly? Did you watch the game? I did. Allen played quite well yesterday himself, and really bounced back in the second half after a bad first half. 30 points, with 14 coming off of defensive TDS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 29 minutes ago, iinii said: There is already a thread for this Winslow's ?? That was more a who's going to the game where this is the weekly Bills vs XXXX thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 we might be catching the eagles at a good time. I know they just lost two big games and SHOULD come out angry and hungry. But they are bickering among themselves, are a disaster in their back 7 on D, and can be had. We need some pressure to get home against Wentz and lock up their TEs, bracket coverage, slam them at the line, etc....A little adversity early on and they might just fold it up or actually fight each other on the sidelines. Lots of reports of the WRs being not happy with Wentz, the offense hates the defense, players are late or missing meetings with no punishment. Bad times in Philly, hopefully we come out strong out of the gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hsker4life said: 30 points, with 14 coming off of defensive TDS. That's true, and I should have mentioned that. Still, playing against Seattle in Seattle in a rainstorm is not an easy task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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