buffaloboyinATL Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) McDermott was interviewed this morning on GMFB and one of the first questions they asked him was to talk about the dominance of our Defense. He said it starts up front with the Defensive Line and mentioned Hughes, Star and Trent Murphy by name. He also talked about Edmunds, Poyer and Hyde. I was surprised he did not mentioned Oliver and wondered why he slighted him. But then, later in the interview Kyle excitedly asked him about the Dawson Knox angry run and McDermott was clearly reluctant to respond at first. He said "we like to keep our rookies hungry and humble to make sure they know they know they have to keep working hard" (paraphrase) McDermott reluctantly complimented Knox, but this definitely gave me great insight into how he treats Oliver and other rookies. This is old school, but I like it. This could easily backfire with some of the big egos in this league, but hopefully Oliver knows the drill and doesn't internalize the lack of praise. Thoughts on this? Anyone dislike this approach? Edited October 16, 2019 by buffaloboyinATL 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: McDermott was interviewed this morning on GMFB and one of the first questions they asked him was to talk about the dominance of our Defense. He said it starts up front with the Defensive Line and mentioned Hughes, Star and Trent Murphy by name. He also talked about Edmunds, Poyer and Hyde. I was surprised he did not mentioned Oliver and wondered why he slighted him. But then, later in the interview Kyle excitedly asked him about the Dawson Knox angry run and McDermott was clearly reluctant to respond at first. He said "we like to keep our rookies hungry and humble to make sure they know they know they have to keep working hard" (paraphrase) McDermott reluctantly complimented Knox, but this definitely gave me great insight into how he treats Oliver and other rookies. This is old school, but I like it. This could easily backfire with some of the big egos in this league, but hopefully Oliver knows the drill and doesn't internalize the lack of praise. Keeping rookies humble is critical. No matter what they think they know as the lens peers deeper inside the inner workings of the NFL, it’s clear there is a huge jump from college to Pro’s in most cases. I recall Marv almost never started rooks, which is even next level humility indoctrination. I like the message that you’ve gotta earn the right... its nuance that distinguish this teams culture. no “day 1 starter off the bus” quips. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Keeping rookies humble is critical. No matter what they think they know as the lens peers deeper inside the inner workings of the NFL, it’s clear there is a huge jump from college to Pro’s in most cases. I recall Marv almost never started rooks, which is even next level humility indoctrination. I like the message that you’ve gotta earn the right... its nuance that distinguish this teams culture. no “day 1 starter off the bus” quips. Now hold on! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 He's got a strong room around him I'm sure he's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: He's got a strong room around him I'm sure he's fine. Most likely, but it really stood out at first that he avoided Oliver when he was heaping praise on the DL. Now I get it though. I imagine the vets in the room do the praising instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I would think being a starter/main rotation player in ones rookie season is ample praise in if itself. yes I think it’s a good way to handle rookies. Go Bills!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 McDermott will keep rookies humble...by force if necessary! 3 13 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I think in general, the outside world 'us' are always stoked about rookie draft picks and want too much too soon. But for the organization, it's basically another new hire.. It makes sense to not want to gush about some guy that hasn't even been in the building for a full year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterLifer Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 One way to view McDermott's rookie treatment may be to look at our 2nd year players. Allen, Edmunds, Phillips, Johnson, Neal (what a great class!) and Wallace are all improving, becoming more important parts of the team and appear to be motivated, serious minds Bills. This group could (should) become our core leadership group, with time. My take-away is that Sean McDermott is smarter than me. And, I like it. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) It's because Oliver is a bust. Not a single sack as of yet. Edited October 16, 2019 by H2o 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I like it. Earn it rookie ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, benderbender said: McDermott will keep rookies humble...by force if necessary! Bob Backlund Jr. ? Which means it's old school best 2 out of 3 ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 So far good for 2nd best record in the conference, no? If it 'aint broke...you get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, benderbender said: McDermott will keep rookies humble...by force if necessary! Wow....McDermott used to have some pretty thick hair. Better than @teef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Wow....McDermott used to have some pretty thick hair. Better than @teef. my hair is fantastic. only a couple of grays for a guy in his early 40s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterLifer Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Wow....McDermott used to have some pretty thick hair. Better than @teef. Yeah, so did I. Father time and the baldness gene are undefeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 In his press conference I think he almost said he was pleased with Ed but had to pull himself back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, teef said: my hair is fantastic. only a couple of grays for a guy in his early 40s. My hair on top is starting to gray...especially the sides but my eye brows are still black as the night. I also wear glasses.... I'm getting nervous I'm turning into Eugene Levy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: My hair on top is starting to gray...especially the sides but my eye brows are still black as the night. I also wear glasses.... I'm getting nervous I'm turning into Eugene Levy. you should be so lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 We'll see how humble Ed Oliver is in December when he wants to wear an over coat to keep warm. "Coats are for closers!!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I like this approach, and I’m sure Oliver gets it. He was interviewed once and said something like “I haven’t gotten enou....(caught himself) I haven’t EARNED enough snaps yet.” I absolutely loved that awareness and catch on his part! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, teef said: you should be so lucky. Because I would be Jewish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: My hair on top is starting to gray...especially the sides but my eye brows are still black as the night. I also wear glasses.... I'm getting nervous I'm turning into Eugene Levy. Same here. Do you suppose we’re brothers? a/s/l? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Same here. Do you suppose we’re brothers? a/s/l? Do you have any asian in you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: Do you have any asian in you? I marinated our beef in soy sauce last night. Does that count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, BringBackFergy said: I marinated our beef in soy sauce last night. Does that count? No...a lot of people do that. Do you wear medical masks over your mouth when you go outside to the public? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: McDermott was interviewed this morning on GMFB and one of the first questions they asked him was to talk about the dominance of our Defense. He said it starts up front with the Defensive Line and mentioned Hughes, Star and Trent Murphy by name. He also talked about Edmunds, Poyer and Hyde. I was surprised he did not mentioned Oliver and wondered why he slighted him. But then, later in the interview Kyle excitedly asked him about the Dawson Knox angry run and McDermott was clearly reluctant to respond at first. He said "we like to keep our rookies hungry and humble to make sure they know they know they have to keep working hard" (paraphrase) McDermott reluctantly complimented Knox, but this definitely gave me great insight into how he treats Oliver and other rookies. This is old school, but I like it. This could easily backfire with some of the big egos in this league, but hopefully Oliver knows the drill and doesn't internalize the lack of praise. Thoughts on this? Anyone dislike this approach? Teach them early and often and set a precedent. That is how good teams develop and play as a team. Good formula for success. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: No...a lot of people do that. Do you wear medical masks over your mouth when you go outside to the public? Pshhhh...who doesn't? Especially when riding in the tour bus to Niagara Falls. Stopping at thruway rest stops is a sure fire way to catch yellow fever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Pshhhh...who doesn't? Especially when riding in the tour bus to Niagara Falls. Stopping at thruway rest stops is a sure fire way to catch yellow fever. Were you ever beaten with a bamboo cane if you made a B on a school test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Were you ever beaten with a bamboo cane if you made a B on a school test? That all stopped when I started playing the cello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: That all stopped when I started playing the cello. Do you still have a bowl cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Do you still have a bowl cut? Now you're getting personal..but yes. My wife's great aunt has a small shop in the garage where she sells fresh seafood and cuts my hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Were you ever beaten with a bamboo cane if you made a B on a school test? WHAT? I got candy for dinner if I got a B! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Now you're getting personal..but yes. My wife's great aunt has a small shop in the garage where she sells fresh seafood and cuts my hair. When you're driving, can you change lanes without cutting someone off? When you see a sign that says "keep moving" when you're exiting the highway....do you stop? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, Augie said: WHAT? I got candy for dinner if I got a B! My brother once got a C.... I used to have a brother.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: McDermott was interviewed this morning on GMFB and one of the first questions they asked him was to talk about the dominance of our Defense. He said it starts up front with the Defensive Line and mentioned Hughes, Star and Trent Murphy by name. He also talked about Edmunds, Poyer and Hyde. I was surprised he did not mentioned Oliver and wondered why he slighted him. But then, later in the interview Kyle excitedly asked him about the Dawson Knox angry run and McDermott was clearly reluctant to respond at first. He said "we like to keep our rookies hungry and humble to make sure they know they know they have to keep working hard" (paraphrase) McDermott reluctantly complimented Knox, but this definitely gave me great insight into how he treats Oliver and other rookies. This is old school, but I like it. This could easily backfire with some of the big egos in this league, but hopefully Oliver knows the drill and doesn't internalize the lack of praise. Thoughts on this? Anyone dislike this approach? From the inside-info stories I've heard, Oliver showed up with plenty of that ego. If it's working with him, we shouldnt worry about anyone else they bring in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: McDermott was interviewed this morning on GMFB and one of the first questions they asked him was to talk about the dominance of our Defense. He said it starts up front with the Defensive Line and mentioned Hughes, Star and Trent Murphy by name. He also talked about Edmunds, Poyer and Hyde. I was surprised he did not mentioned Oliver and wondered why he slighted him. But then, later in the interview Kyle excitedly asked him about the Dawson Knox angry run and McDermott was clearly reluctant to respond at first. He said "we like to keep our rookies hungry and humble to make sure they know they know they have to keep working hard" (paraphrase) McDermott reluctantly complimented Knox, but this definitely gave me great insight into how he treats Oliver and other rookies. This is old school, but I like it. This could easily backfire with some of the big egos in this league, but hopefully Oliver knows the drill and doesn't internalize the lack of praise. Thoughts on this? Anyone dislike this approach? LOL McDermott really *is* a hard-ass on this point. Check out his Weds media availability video. ~6:02 He's talking about Ed Oliver and he says "I've been pleased...." THEN HE TAKES IT BACK! Says "let me pull that back....not pleased, but I feel like we're moving in the right direction...." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon127 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Karlos Williams is probably the best example I can think of why this is critical. Guy gets tons of praise his rookie year, and then comes in overweight the following year, and I think he was cut prior to that season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 37 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: My brother once got a C.... I used to have a brother.... THAT sounds highly motivational! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 45 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: My brother once got a C.... I used to have a brother.... I actually shot for low 90’s on everything. To get 100% seemed like wasted effort. (This speaks volumes about me, not necessarily all good.) If I missed an A by a bit, such is life. I only got bummed if I was below 85%, but I never got caned. We lived way out from St Joes and the bus picked me up at like 6:25am (even in February!). First guy on the bus, last off, 3 hours a day roundtrip. If I missed the bus, my parents would say “do you NEED to be there today?”. Well, NO! DUH! They didn’t want to make the drive either, and I’d hang out at Williamsville North with my friends! Back then you could have a stranger just wandering the halls and hanging out in the cafeteria all day. We may have had slightly different experiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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