Kaepernick Black-balled?

[billsfan_34]

27 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

he doesn’t want to play football. If he did he would have been signed 

For some reason I cant paste- google it the info is out there. Honestly who cares at thia point. 

[Kirby Jackson]

3 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

If he would get paid like Peterman Kaep would have a better chance at getting a job and that salary is why a lot of 2nd string QBs remain on roster.

That’s probably true. 

[Alphadawg7]

2 minutes ago, Rob's House said:

I'd have a lot more respect for Kaepernick supporters if they were honest about why they support him, and applied that principle consistently.

 

I support him because he is an NFL quality player who stood up for something he believed in and did so peacefully standing up for the social injustice...which is a massive issue in our country.  

 

Before the kneeling, Kap had given more money and time to his local community than anyone can fathom.  He was falsely painted a monster for standing up for others rights.  He deserves to still have a job, and he doesn't deserve the hate he has received.  

 

And honestly, it was Trump that turned him into a monster for his own political pop.  Sure he was controversial, but it wasn't until Trump (who openly admitted to this) focused on him and the kneeling as it was one of the few things he was getting a positive boost from at the time.  Trump turned the kneeling into meaning something it didnt and social media justice ate up the BS in spoons full.  Trump literally does not even know the words to the national anthem and dodged the draft and called POWs losers for getting captured.  Yet somehow he spoon fed this nonsense to being about Kap disrespecting America and our Military which it had literally nothing do with any of those things.  

 

He kneeled to stand up for social injustice at a time where there were many unlawful killings of innocent and unarmed African American individuals caught on tape in a short window by armed officers.  It was never about the military, America itself, etc.  That was a false narrative by Trump because he got a "boost" in the polls when he did it, and he said so himself.

 

So I support him for starting a conversation that was important and needed to happen.  I support him as he is a NFL quality player who should have a job.  I support him because he was a good person off the field before and AFTER the kneeling.  

[Augie]

5 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

If he would get paid like Peterman Kaep would have a better chance at getting a job and that salary is why a lot of 2nd string QBs remain on roster.

 

If you can get paid like Peterman for a decade for mostly holding the clipboard, you’ve got yourself an AWESOME deal! 

[Rob's House]

Just now, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I support him because he is an NFL quality player who stood up for something he believed in and did so peacefully standing up for the social injustice...which is a massive issue in our country.  

 

Before the kneeling, Kap had given more money and time to his local community than anyone can fathom.  He was falsely painted a monster for standing up for others rights.  He deserves to still have a job, and he doesn't deserve the hate he has received.  

 

And honestly, it was Trump that turned him into a monster for his own political pop.  Sure he was controversial, but it wasn't until Trump (who openly admitted to this) focused on him and the kneeling as it was one of the few things he was getting a positive boost from at the time.  Trump turned the kneeling into meaning something it didnt and social media justice ate up the BS in spoons full.  Trump literally does not even know the words to the national anthem and dodged the draft and called POWs losers for getting captured.  Yet somehow he spoon fed this nonsense to being about Kap disrespecting America and our Military which it had literally nothing do with any of those things.  

 

He kneeled to stand up for social injustice at a time where there were many unlawful killings of innocent and unarmed African American individuals caught on tape in a short window by armed officers.  It was never about the military, America itself, etc.  That was a false narrative by Trump because he got a "boost" in the polls when he did it, and he said so himself.

 

So I support him for starting a conversation that was important and needed to happen.  I support him as he is a NFL quality player who should have a job.  I support him because he was a good person off the field before and AFTER the kneeling.  

 

So you support him because you agree with him. I can respect that. Are you suggesting that if you disagreed with his cause you'd be okay with his employment situation?

[Alphadawg7]

22 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/foxsportsradio.iheart.com/alternate/amp/2017-08-09-clay-travis-believes-seahawks-offered-kaepernick-a-contract/

 

ummm yep Turned down NFL offers in 2017. 

ahhh must be is collusion settlement money is running out. Ooo wait or he lied to keep his name in the news 

 

So someone "believes" he did and now its true.  These same types of internet people "believed" Clowney was being traded to the Bills, Frank Clark was headed to the Bills, Stefon Diggs was headed to the Bills, and so on and so on.  

 

Again, you want to take hear say and internet gossip as fact to support your own bias.  And he became a Free Agent at the end of the 2016 season...which is in calendar year 2017 when the season ends.  

 

But again, lets assume it is true.  It was once again BEFORE he was black balled.  Seattle had an entrenched franchise QB in Wilson and Kap was still looking for a starting opportunity given he just became a free agent and believed he could start especially coming off a massive contract, recent SB, etc.  

 

So you want to jump to this conclusion that TODAY he doesn't want to play because he didnt immediately take a backup job to Wilson right when he became a free agent?  Come on dude

 

No disrespect, but you are just doing everything you can to reinforce your negative bias on him.  I am not even claiming he wants to play, I am saying its pretty silly to assume he didnt want to be a backup 3 years ago when he first became a FA 2 years removed from leading the Niners to a SB.   

Edited October 16, 2019 by Alphadawg7

[Florida Bills Fanatic]

1 hour ago, Never NEVER Give-up said:

If I were him, I'd sue the league for $10MM per year for as many years I felt I could have played plus treble damages.  Very provable, smacks of racism too.

A law suit at this point in time would be a fool's errand.  He terminated his last contract.  His play had deteriorated and was no longer as effective as he had been earlier in his career. He had also gone on record about the type of payment that he would require.  From the owner's perspective, he had alienated a significant percentage of the NFL's customer base and many of their sponsors.  It isn't hard to understand why 32 owners felt that having him around wasn't worth the hassle. Proving a concerted effort by the owners to keep him out of the league, is not easy to prove contrary to popular belief.  Lastly, getting to play in the NFL isn't a right that belongs to any individual.  As far as the claim of racism toward an organization that has minorities as the majority of their employees, it would be a significant uphill fight in court.

Personally, I wouldn't have been upset with him getting a shot to prove himself in a training camp.  He had the right to protest to draw attention to a problem that is important to him.  I don't think he anticipated that his actions during the national anthem would result in the severe push back that it received.  I would have picked a different method to protest.

[H2o]

Wtf? This  again? This horse is more beaten to death than the Mahomes one. To play in the NFL is a privilege, not a right. He already got his $60,000,000-$80,000,000 from the NFL. He isn't owed . 

[Augie]

3 minutes ago, Rob's House said:

 

So you support him because you agree with him. I can respect that. Are you suggesting that if you disagreed with his cause you'd be okay with his employment situation?

 

Well played. If he’s good enough and won’t hurt the team by being there, he’s in the league. It’s more than one factor, and I can ignore the politics of it. I can’t even watch the news any more. Just win on Sundays! 

[klos63]

I support Kaep as much as anyone and believe 100% he is being blackballed. But what's the point of another thread on this. If you have new info to share, great, but you don't.

[Rob's House]

Just now, Augie said:

 

Well played. If he’s good enough and won’t hurt the team by being there, he’s in the league. It’s more than one factor, and I can ignore the politics of it. I can’t even watch the news any more. Just win on Sundays! 

I'm with you. I sometimes go months without watching the news. It does a world of good for my mental health.

[Alphadawg7]

8 minutes ago, Rob's House said:

 

So you support him because you agree with him. I can respect that. Are you suggesting that if you disagreed with his cause you'd be okay with his employment situation?

 

Actually, I dont support him because I agree with him.  I do absolutely agree with his stance that social injustice is a problem in this country, and thats really an undeniable fact.  I mean its statistically proven without any room for debate, not to mention countless piles of in your face evidence as well.  I mean look at the African American woman who was just murdered in her own home by a white cop while playing video games with her child all because her door was open.  Social injustice and prejudice against the African American community is an undeniable fact.  

 

However, thats not why I support him.  I support him because of who he was off the field before the kneeling and for how he peacefully protested something without violence.  Even if the subject he was supporting was not something I agreed with, I would still respect how he did it and what he stood for off the field before all this went down.  

 

At the end of the day, he spoke up for those he felt needed a voice.  I can respect that regardless of my personal opinion being aligned or not.  And his ability on the field is such that he is worthy of an NFL job and should have one.  

Edited October 15, 2019 by Alphadawg7

[LSHMEAB]

27 minutes ago, Rob's House said:

I'd have a lot more respect for Kaepernick supporters if they were honest about why they support him, and applied that principle consistently.

Very fair point as usual. Without making this overly political, you either support players/people who buck tradition/norms in their fight against management or you don't. Bring that same energy under different, yet similar circumstances. 

 

I happen to support the guy and believe he got a raw deal from the league, but I'm also gonna defend, let's say Nick Bosa, if something odd were to occur.

[Franco_92]

43 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

What does that have to do with anything I just said?  I talked about his ability to play, not desire.  

Happily. By the end, he was sailing passes on 6 yard out routes 10 feet over guys' heads, and couldn't recognize when defenses were pulling CBs off his WRs entirely, leaving them with 20 yards of space between them and the nearest defenders. His coach gave him one read plays and he essentially wasn't allowed to throw the ball past the sticks. This was literally three years ago. If he was that bad three years ago and hasn't touched a football in a serious situation since, his ability to play is almost certainly significantly below where it needs to be to be a backup QB. A backup QB is, ideally, a player that fits well into his team's system stylistically, even if he's not as talented as the starter. There are no systems that involve devolving/breaking every single play to have a prayer for a meaningful completion.

[Alphadawg7]

1 minute ago, arcane said:

Happily. By the end, he was sailing passes on 6 yard out routes 10 feet over guys' heads, and couldn't recognize when defenses were pulling CBs off his WRs entirely, leaving them with 20 yards of space between them and the nearest defenders. His coach gave him one read plays and he essentially wasn't allowed to throw the ball past the sticks. This was literally three years ago. If he was that bad three years ago and hasn't touched a football in a serious situation since, his ability to play is almost certainly significantly below where it needs to be to be a backup QB. A backup QB is, ideally, a player that fits well into his team's system stylistically, even if he's not as talented as the starter. There are no systems that involve devolving/breaking every single play to have a prayer for a meaningful completion.

 

His coaching staff was a train wreck, the offense was completely devoid of any remaining talent, and the defense was awful after losing all of its best players early to off field stuff, injuries, and early retirements.  

 

He had 18 TD's to 4 INTs in 12 games his last year, he wasn't nearly as bad as he is being painted to be...especially given the talent around him was worse than what Josh Allen had to work with last year.  That Niners team was one of the worst rosters in the NFL in 2016.

[Augie]

I wish this thread had never opened up. 

 

 

AGAIN. 

[Alphadawg7]

1 minute ago, Augie said:

I wish this thread had never opened up. 

 

 

AGAIN. 

 

Even though I jumped in here late, I would agree that this thread is one that has been discussed numerous times here and didn't really need a new thread.  Then again, we can say that on just about any topic on TSW lol.

[Franco_92]

5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

His coaching staff was a train wreck, the offense was completely devoid of any remaining talent, and the defense was awful after losing all of its best players early to off field stuff, injuries, and early retirements.  

 

He had 18 TD's to 4 INTs in 12 games his last year, he wasn't nearly as bad as he is being painted to be...especially given the talent around him was worse than what Josh Allen had to work with last year.  That Niners team was one of the worst rosters in the NFL in 2016.

Here's an outline. He was a disaster, and his last starts contain bottom 5 QBing performances I've ever seen.

https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/colin-kaepernick-49ers-start-chip-kelly-nfl-buffalo-stats-career-highlights-fantasy-101116

Edited October 16, 2019 by arcane

[Rob's House]

2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Actually, I dont support him because I agree with him.  I do absolutely agree with his stance that social injustice is a problem in this country, and thats really an undeniable fact.  I mean its statistically proven without any room for debate, not to mention countless piles of in your face evidence as well.  I mean look at the African American woman who was just murdered in her own home by a white cop while playing video games with her child all because her door was open.  Social injustice and prejudice against the African American community is an undeniable fact.  

 

However, thats not why I support him.  I support him because of who he was off the field before the kneeling and for how he peacefully protested something without violence.  Even if the subject he was supporting was not something I agreed with, I would still respect how he did it and what he stood for off the field before all this went down.  

 

At the end of the day, he spoke up for those he felt needed a voice.  I can respect that regardless of my personal opinion being aligned or not.  And his ability on the field is such that he is worthy of an NFL job and should have one.  

I'll accept that you believe everything you said in your first paragraph and simply state that I disagree and leave it at that. We don't need to debate that now.

 

It still sounds to me like you support him because you like him and agree with him.

 

What I want to know is, if a player you liked orchestrated a peaceful protest where he spoke up for people who he thought needed a voice by doing and saying things you found both wrong and highly offensive, would you still want someone to hire him?

 

 

[Alphadawg7]

Just now, arcane said:

Here's an outline. He was a disaster, and his last starts contain bottom 5 QBing performances I've ever seen.

 

Except thats not true.  But its cool, I get it, you dont like him.  18TDS to 4 INTS in his final 12 starts with a QBR over 90 says otherwise.  

 

Was he Rodgers or Brady...nope.  But he led a team to the SB, played well enough to get a massive contract, and then...the entire Niners organization and team utterly imploded on itself leaving the roster as one of the worst in the NFL just 2 years removed from the SB.

 

But keep overlooking the facts that he had the worst Head Coach in the NFL in Chip Kelly, his entire team was dismantled in a 2 year window due to all the player losses from suspensions, off field stuff, early retirement, injuries, cap issues, and free agency.  

 

Its hilarious that people want to blame how bad the Niners record was over his final 2 years when he played on the worst roster in the NFL with the worst coaching.  

[Wilton Bills]

I like Kapernick but he walked away from a big money deal in San Fran. I had no problem with his protest but sport is business and he cooked himself by opting out of his contract.

[H2o]

1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Except thats not true.  But its cool, I get it, you dont like him.  18TDS to 4 INTS in his final 12 starts with a QBR over 90 says otherwise.  

 

Was he Rodgers or Brady...nope.  But he led a team to the SB, played well enough to get a massive contract, and then...the entire Niners organization and team utterly imploded on itself leaving the roster as one of the worst in the NFL just 2 years removed from the SB.

 

But keep overlooking the facts that he had the worst Head Coach in the NFL in Chip Kelly, his entire team was dismantled in a 2 year window due to all the player losses from suspensions, off field stuff, early retirement, injuries, cap issues, and free agency.  

 

Its hilarious that people want to blame how bad the Niners record was over his final 2 years when he played on the worst roster in the NFL with the worst coaching.  

They were calling for his head in SF before all of the extracurricular stuff started. He lost his job to Gabbert. The first week where did the camera catch him? He was just sitting on the bench, looking like he was sulking more than anything else. Somehow it was made a topic by the media. Kudos to him and his girlfriend for flipping it by the next week into something else. It grew legs and became what it has been. You want to know what type of QB he was at the end? Watch his game against the Bills. That's Kaep, only now he's a few years older. People want to throw his numbers out there, but go back and look at what point of the game he put up those TD's. They were mainly after the game was decided. A garbage TD a week when your team is losing isn't really worth much, but it has been turned into an arguing point like he was better than what he actually was. Harbaugh and Roman got every ounce they could out of him. He had a good run. The NFL figured him out. Force him to play the QB position and he wasn't going to beat you. We do agree that Chip Kelly sucked though. Terrible coach. 

[atlbillsfan1975]

STOP

why is this so important to everyone?

he opted out and I honesty don’t believe he really wants to play anymore.

i wish someone would sign him and throw him out there. He wouldn’t last a game. He doesn’t want to get hit. 

 

[jethro_tull]

I can't tell you what color they are......

[Rob's House]

34 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

Very fair point as usual. Without making this overly political, you either support players/people who buck tradition/norms in their fight against management or you don't. Bring that same energy under different, yet similar circumstances. 

 

I happen to support the guy and believe he got a raw deal from the league, but I'm also gonna defend, let's say Nick Bosa, if something odd were to occur.

That's a consistent position because your principle is not content-based. Too many people let their bias override reasoned principle.

 

Personally, I'm okay with bucking trends and fighting management to a point, but I generally err on the side of the freedom of private parties to (or not to) enter into contracts voluntarily. Of course, there are some exceptions, and I have to consider my bias as someone who didn't appreciate his protest. That said,  I would have a problem with an organized effort to boycott a potential employer.

Edited October 16, 2019 by Rob's House

[Alphadawg7]

26 minutes ago, Rob's House said:

I'll accept that you believe everything you said in your first paragraph and simply state that I disagree and leave it at that. We don't need to debate that now.

 

It still sounds to me like you support him because you like him and agree with him.

 

What I want to know is, if a player you liked orchestrated a peaceful protest where he spoke up for people who he thought needed a voice by doing and saying things you found both wrong and highly offensive, would you still want someone to hire him?

 

 

 

Fair question, so happy to answer.  

 

Yes, its football, I would still support him.  I don't care what a player thinks off the field and what he stands up for as long as its not hateful or evil.  I mean I am not going to support a player who peacefully protests for White Nationalists for instance.  

 

Perfect example:  Trump.  I hate the man, and has nothing to do with Red vs Blue, Right vs Left, or the media.  Its 100% about the man and who he really is, and this goes back long before he ran for office.  I know people who have first hand horrible experiences with him involving racism, sexual assault, lies, and basically fraud/con jobs.  He is a terrible person in general, long before he ran for office and my opinion on the matter was set back then too.  

 

HOWEVER:  I do not hold that against athletes or other celebrities I may like who come out and support him, argue on his behalf, or spin the scandals because they have a different view of him formed in different ways.  So if Kap was kneeling to support Trump for example, I wouldn't feel he doesn't deserve to play football.  Just like I don't hold it against some of my friends and family that voted for him.

 

Bottom line:  Every one is different.  IMHO, its ridiculous to black ball a player because you may not agree with his personal opinion on a controversial subject matter.  Plenty of people here think Trump is a Saint while I know him to be the polar opposite of that (and no need for any of us posters to discuss the merits of Trump...I hate him, others love him...no one is changing anyones minds so please no one respond defending Trump to me).   

 

End of day, Kap stood up for something positive and something he believed in...that was equal rights.  That should not keep him from having a job even if someone disagrees with his opinion.  Especially in a league where people like Tyreek Hill not only have jobs, but huge contracts despite choking out his baby mama while she was pregnant with his baby.

 

Edited October 16, 2019 by Alphadawg7

[formerlyofCtown]

He shouldnt be bared from playing and isnt.  He just isnt that good.  Barkley is a better option.  We certainly dont need any selfish players in our locker room.

Edited October 16, 2019 by formerlyofCtown

[Alphadawg7]

19 minutes ago, H2o said:

They were calling for his head in SF before all of the extracurricular stuff started. He lost his job to Gabbert. The first week where did the camera catch him? He was just sitting on the bench, looking like he was sulking more than anything else. Somehow it was made a topic by the media. Kudos to him and his girlfriend for flipping it by the next week into something else. It grew legs and became what it has been. You want to know what type of QB he was at the end? Watch his game against the Bills. That's Kaep, only now he's a few years older. People want to throw his numbers out there, but go back and look at what point of the game he put up those TD's. They were mainly after the game was decided. A garbage TD a week when your team is losing isn't really worth much, but it has been turned into an arguing point like he was better than what he actually was. Harbaugh and Roman got every ounce they could out of him. He had a good run. The NFL figured him out. Force him to play the QB position and he wasn't going to beat you. We do agree that Chip Kelly sucked though. Terrible coach. 

 

Again...worst roster in the NFL...worst coaching in the NFL (and one of worst ever in Chip Kelly).  With Harbaugh, he was pretty good.  The last 2 years his HC's were Jim Tomsula (someone no one here even knows who he is) and Chip Kelly (one the worst to ever roam an NFL sideline).  

 

So again, its pretty silly to put it all on Kap with an awful roster and worse coaching around a young QB.  Now I am not saying he is a top tier QB or anything, but the stats over his career show he was worthy of an NFL roster spot.  I mean we are talking about a league that still employs Nate Pickerman and Mike Glennon (on the same team mind you) for instance.  

 

Its not like someone is arguing he should be the corner stone of a franchise...but he is undeniably good enough to play in the NFL, and when he last played it was still better than several of the QBs who have seen the field this year.  Thats my point.  

 

Its pretty unfair to validate denying him a job just because he is not part of the highest tier of said job.  Their are over 70 QB's on NFL rosters right now, its not a stretch to say he is better than more than half of those QB's and worthy of a backup QB spot.  

Edited October 16, 2019 by Alphadawg7

[Nester]

Kap is a rich mans Marcus Mariota 

 

Hard pass.

 

 

Could care less about the politics of it all

[formerlyofCtown]

3 hours ago, Never NEVER Give-up said:

If I were him, I'd sue the league for $10MM per year for as many years I felt I could have played plus treble damages.  Very provable, smacks of racism too.

Already settled.

[DC Tom]

Quote

 

On Sunday night, an undrafted rookie from an FCS school may be playing quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers. 

 

 

And won.  

 

Powerful argument for Kaepernick.

[Tenhigh]

3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

I have no problem with Kaep playing but I also think the longer he's out the less likely tranys think he can still play.

The best part of this thread is Promo's autocorrect.  

Edited October 16, 2019 by Tenhigh

[bbb]

Seems to me the poll (and the way I voted) tells the whole story.  Overwhelming majority says he should be able to play.  Overwhelming majority doesn't want him on their team.  

[clearwater cadet]

I don't really know what this means, but I thought it better than talking about Kaep.

 

 

[Perk71]

Don't care. 

Go Bills!

[Rob's House]

12 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Fair question, so happy to answer.  

 

Yes, its football, I would still support him.  I don't care what a player thinks off the field and what he stands up for as long as its not hateful or evil.  I mean I am not going to support a player who peacefully protests for White Nationalists for instance.  

 

Perfect example:  Trump.  I hate the man, and has nothing to do with Red vs Blue, Right vs Left, or the media.  Its 100% about the man and who he really is, and this goes back long before he ran for office.  I know people who have first hand horrible experiences with him involving racism, sexual assault, lies, and basically fraud/con jobs.  He is a terrible person in general, long before he ran for office and my opinion on the matter was set back then too.  

 

HOWEVER:  I do not hold that against athletes or other celebrities I may like who come out and support him, argue on his behalf, or spin the scandals because they have a different view of him formed in different ways.  So if Kap was kneeling to support Trump for example, I wouldn't feel he doesn't deserve to play football.  Just like I don't hold it against some of my friends and family that voted for him.

 

Bottom line:  Every one is different.  IMHO, its ridiculous to black ball a player because you may not agree with his personal opinion on a controversial subject matter.  Plenty of people here think Trump is a Saint while I know him to be the polar opposite of that (and no need for any of us posters to discuss the merits of Trump...I hate him, others love him...no one is changing anyones minds so please no one respond defending Trump to me).   

 

End of day, Kap stood up for something positive and something he believed in...that was equal rights.  That should not keep him from having a job even if someone disagrees with his opinion.  Especially in a league where people like Tyreek Hill not only have jobs, but huge contracts despite choking out his baby mama while she was pregnant with his baby.

 

 

And there's the rub. 

 

I think you're more consistent than most on this, but this is a fuzzy line between an objective principle and a subjective opinion, because we have different ideas of what is hateful or evil.

 

I don't know that I feel that strongly about it (I'm more glad to be American than proud), but some people have very strong feelings about the flag and the anthem and the country, culture, people, and principles it represents. They see this peaceful protest as a hateful indictment of everything they love and stand for. To them, the implication that America, and specifically white America, is racist and oppressive doesn't sound all that different from how a white nationalist sounds to you.

 

I know you don't share that point of view, and I don't expect you to, but I want you to understand it, because it illustrates just how difficult it is to draw the lines objectively.

[Alphadawg7]

One thing I will say:  If anyone harbors resentment towards Kap because he did not stand during the National Anthem...then you better be standing for said National Anthem when you are watching the games at home, at the bar, etc too.  Otherwise, you're just a hypocrite.  

 

Thats like claiming to be "pro-life" while rushing your daughter to the abortion clinic the second she gets accidentally pregnant in high school.  

 

[Tenhigh]

2 minutes ago, clearwater cadet said:

I don't really know what this means, but I thought it better than talking about Kaep.

 

 

I'll see your Richard Dreyfuss and Raise you a cheif Brody.

[DasNootz]

1 - is he willing to accept a contract in the neighborhood of 1-2 million per season?  Even if he’s a top 30-35 QB, there’s no value in taking him on unless you’re getting a discount to deal with the initial distraction.  I think that distraction will quickly dissipate, but any owner would want to be compensated for the risk.

 

2 - is he good in the film room?  Guys like Barkley and other journeymen have value because they’re capable of helping younger QBs (higher potential) learn to read defenses.  Does Kaep have the same ability to break down tape or was he relying on raw athleticism to improvise? 

 

If the answer to both is “yes” there should be a spot for him somewhere.  If either answer is “no”, he should go to the XFL and build his brand to a point where the NFL can see a better value proposition.

[klos63]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

yet in 2017 turned down NFL offers. Turned down CFL and AAF. 
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/foxsportsradio.iheart.com/alternate/amp/2017-08-09-clay-travis-believes-seahawks-offered-kaepernick-a-contract/

According to Kaep and his agent, they have not turned down any offers. They have not received any offers or tryouts in 3 years.