Doc Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Schopp still claims he would rather be Cleveland than us. Schopp is Cleveland. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Waiting for someone to trot out that 'talent trumps culture' line I think I challenged that back in March. Couldn’t re-open the original thread for some reason but it’s on Page One. Of course, now I’m watching the Sabres game and thinking McDermott needs to get his ass down to Key Bank Center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: I think I challenged that back in March. Couldn’t re-open the original thread for some reason but it’s on Page One. Of course, now I’m watching the Sabres game and thinking McDermott needs to get his ass down to Key Bank Center. I'm sorry, I don't follow baseball 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 Just now, GoBills808 said: I'm sorry, I don't follow baseball You need to make your predictions when the cantaloupe start producing flowers (May). Get with the program Island Boy!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said: I said this in another thread - I just do not understand why Buffalo got to be the butt of every joke, but Cleveland that has now matched the streak and compiled a significantly worse record during that time - skated by. I always hate to wish ill will on another fan base, but I hope for our sake this goes at least one more year - so Cleveland can own it. IIRC They own a 21 year maybe 23? Streak w/o a playoff win. more than Buffalo Since returning 21 years ago, they have only made the playoffs once, while the Baltimore Ravens are considered to be a separate team that began play in 1996. The Ravens, as a result of the Cleveland Browns relocation controversy, absorbed the Browns' personnel upon their suspension, but not their history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001093974/article/browns-to-hire-hc-first-then-gm-all-with-nfl-exp Browns to hire head coach first, then GM, all with NFL experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said: I said this in another thread - I just do not understand why Buffalo got to be the butt of every joke, but Cleveland that has now matched the streak and compiled a significantly worse record during that time - skated by. I always hate to wish ill will on another fan base, but I hope for our sake this goes at least one more year - so Cleveland can own it. 1 more then they and Tampa need to make the playoff and let the Jets take over the longest playoffless streak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 This is 2 to 3 years old matter2003 2,662 Posted November 30, 2017 Top 10 Longest Playoff Win Droughts(in years): Bengals: 27 years(1990): Last Win: Houston Oilers(41-14 January 6th,1991), Starting QB: Boomer Esiason, Playoff Record since: 0-7(2015) Lions: 26 years(1991): Last Win: Dallas Cowboys(38-6, January 5th, 1992), Starting QB: Erik Kramer, Playoff Record since: 0-8(2016) ***Honorable Mention of Futility: That was Detroit's ONLY playoff win since 1957(but hey, at least they won the championship that year), and from 1957 to 1991 they only made the playoffs 3 seasons(1970, 1982 and 1983 meaning they had 3 more lengthy streaks in there)...Lions Playoff Record since 1957: 1-12. That has to be a record of futility that never gets broken...1 playoff win in 60 years....and we thought WE have it bad Browns: 23 years(1994): Last Win: New England Patriots(20-13, January 1st, 1995), Starting QB: Vinny Testeverde, Playoff Record since: 0-2(2002) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: But, but, but....it’s not the talent, it’s the coach and GM. With OBJ, Landry and Mayfield, a coach can teach them how to be humble and buy into the process. Not This was 100% on the HC for both off the field and ON the field. They failed to field a winning team on the FIELD and bred a bad culture off the field (Remember the encouragement to brawl with the T-Shirt)....The HC lost the football team and had to go 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 In order to self-destruct, don't you have to first reach a plateau from which a fall is tragic? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 44 minutes ago, row_33 said: In order to self-destruct, don't you have to first reach a plateau from which a fall is tragic? Agreed, but with the cast of ‘drama queens’ there, coupled with unfounded delusions of grandeur and success, the fall off the first rung of the ladder is just that much more inflated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/03/browns-odell-beckham-trade-official-reaction https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-browns-fan-has-police-called-on-him-for-celebrating-odell-beckham-trade/ https://abc13.com/society/police-called-on-browns-fan-wildly-celebrating-trade-in-yard/5193223/ https://fox8.com/2019/03/13/browns-fan-sets-off-fireworks-to-celebrate-odell-beckham-jr-trade/ Edited January 3, 2020 by Royale with Cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 From the Browns’ tweet: WE GOT HIM! * waiting for: WHO WANTS HIM? (Make an offer...please!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 11 hours ago, Doc said: And it was just a few months ago where more than a few were pining for the off-season moves of the Browns. To be fair, I am not aware of anyone anywhere pining for Kitchens as HC. (Other than Baker Mayfield) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/03/browns-odell-beckham-trade-official-reaction https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-browns-fan-has-police-called-on-him-for-celebrating-odell-beckham-trade/ https://abc13.com/society/police-called-on-browns-fan-wildly-celebrating-trade-in-yard/5193223/ https://fox8.com/2019/03/13/browns-fan-sets-off-fireworks-to-celebrate-odell-beckham-jr-trade/ “And just like that, the Browns became the AFC’s most complete team” LOL, LOL 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 I called for destruction way before this thread came out. And I remember you said October... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/03/browns-odell-beckham-trade-official-reaction https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-browns-fan-has-police-called-on-him-for-celebrating-odell-beckham-trade/ https://abc13.com/society/police-called-on-browns-fan-wildly-celebrating-trade-in-yard/5193223/ https://fox8.com/2019/03/13/browns-fan-sets-off-fireworks-to-celebrate-odell-beckham-jr-trade/ This situation should be the ultimate example of why no one should listen to the moronic media when it comes to off season prognostications. Would be nice if those media morons would publicly eat their words when they were so off base and force fed us all that narrative. They are idiots who know nothing and are only interested in selling the “team du jour”. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 31 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: This situation should be the ultimate example of why no one should listen to the moronic media when it comes to off season prognostications. Would be nice if those media morons would publicly eat their words when they were so off base and force fed us all that narrative. They are idiots who know nothing and are only interested in selling the “team du jour”. The sports media is about clicks, eyes and ears. They’ll always run with hype on any team making splash moves - especially in the off season when they need all the material they can get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 24 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: The sports media is about clicks, eyes and ears. They’ll always run with hype on any team making splash moves - especially in the off season when they need all the material they can get. No doubt. I understand that. I wish the educated nfl fan consumer would see through the BS so it would push that kind of crap out of the media market. When the consumer sees it as the trash that it is, the demand for the trash drops, and the demand for legit NFL analysis and discussion increases. It’s too much to ask, but I’ll still live in my dream world! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: No doubt. I understand that. I wish the educated nfl fan consumer would see through the BS so it would push that kind of crap out of the media market. When the consumer sees it as the trash that it is, the demand for the trash drops, and the demand for legit NFL analysis and discussion increases. It’s too much to ask, but I’ll still live in my dream world! oh yes the "educated fan" LOL someday we will have our Utopia, reading Plato's Symposium and then watching the game Seriously LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 17 minutes ago, row_33 said: oh yes the "educated fan" LOL someday we will have our Utopia, reading Plato's Symposium and then watching the game Seriously LOL One day, this world of hot takes will pass away. And, a new, better world will be birthed. So sayeth the Lord! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: One day, this world of hot takes will pass away. And, a new, better world will be birthed. So sayeth the Lord! You gotta have a dream, if you don't have a dream, How you gonna have a dream come true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, row_33 said: You gotta have a dream, if you don't have a dream, How you gonna have a dream come true? Why are you posting pictures of @Gugny in this thread? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Sig1Hunter said: No doubt. I understand that. I wish the educated nfl fan consumer would see through the BS so it would push that kind of crap out of the media market. When the consumer sees it as the trash that it is, the demand for the trash drops, and the demand for legit NFL analysis and discussion increases. It’s too much to ask, but I’ll still live in my dream world! Wouldn’t it be nice if the world worked that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Just now, BarleyNY said: Wouldn’t it be nice if the world worked that way? i recall at least a dozen sports boards hiving off to have "intelligent discussions" all turned into a fascist banning machine with the eff word comprising 33% of GDT posts and such.... it's just a game, grab a beer, take the recliner, relax... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 10 hours ago, Chaos said: To be fair, I am not aware of anyone anywhere pining for Kitchens as HC. (Other than Baker Mayfield) I don’t recall anybody saying anything about not wanting Kitchens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, Doc said: I don’t recall anybody saying anything about not wanting Kitchens. Which has nothing to do with "pining". I am one of those people that think words have meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 59 minutes ago, Doc said: I don’t recall anybody saying anything about not wanting Kitchens. Kitchens was Dorsey’s pick. Depodesta wanted Stefanski (Vikings OC). Haslam went with Kitchens in large part because Mayfield liked him and gave him the thumbs up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Chaos said: Which has nothing to do with "pining". I am one of those people that think words have meaning. You realize the Browns made moves other than promoting Kitchens, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 10 hours ago, row_33 said: oh yes the "educated fan" LOL someday we will have our Utopia, reading Plato's Symposium and then watching the game Seriously LOL Plato’s Symposium is not educational with regard to American football in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 10 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Plato’s Symposium is not educational with regard to American football in my opinion the way things are going.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 11 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Plato’s Symposium is not educational with regard to American football in my opinion You leave Mickey Mouse’s dog out of this! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: You leave Mickey Mouse’s dog out of this! I think he spelled Play Doh wrong...and IT IS educational. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Play-Doh-Kitchen-Creations-Burger-Barbecue-Food-Set-with-5-Cans/55502592?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222228000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=42423897272&wl4=pla-51320962143&wl5=9004988&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=55502592&veh=sem&gclid=CjwKCAiAjMHwBRAVEiwAzdLWGN45WS0i1mdNwILaZ03p7pmhWayiRLipAZ2Sy2xf7ny_6oE7vnQsxhoC3-kQAvD_BwE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 22 hours ago, BarleyNY said: The sports media is about clicks, eyes and ears. They’ll always run with hype on any team making splash moves - especially in the off season when they need all the material they can get. 22 hours ago, Sig1Hunter said: No doubt. I understand that. I wish the educated nfl fan consumer would see through the BS so it would push that kind of crap out of the media market. When the consumer sees it as the trash that it is, the demand for the trash drops, and the demand for legit NFL analysis and discussion increases. It’s too much to ask, but I’ll still live in my dream world! Journalism is dead... and not just the Sports section either. It’s all about the clicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 22 hours ago, Sig1Hunter said: No doubt. I understand that. I wish the educated nfl fan consumer would see through the BS so it would push that kind of crap out of the media market. When the consumer sees it as the trash that it is, the demand for the trash drops, and the demand for legit NFL analysis and discussion increases. It’s too much to ask, but I’ll still live in my dream world! The American consumers appetite for sensationalism over considered thought in all types of news / information is unquenchable. There is just not as many thinkers out there as we would hope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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