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The NFL REALLY needs to stop putting the Giants in prime time slots.  I get that NYC is a big market, but they make for an absolutely s*** product on the field.  The two Steelers games, the two Giants games, the Redskins game, and the Pats/Jets games are all going to be horrible.  The rest...could actually be pretty darn entertaining.

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1 hour ago, billsfan89 said:

Since the Sunday night game went to NBC the Monday Night schedule has failed to get the big time matchups. When Monday Night football was on ABC the slate of games were A level while the Sunday night game on ESPN was not always that great of a game. But now that NBC picked up the Sunday game it's the A game of the week. 

 

because they can cherry pick the best game that week?

 

 

17 minutes ago, Haplo848 said:

The NFL REALLY needs to stop putting the Giants in prime time slots.  I get that NYC is a big market, but they make for an absolutely s*** product on the field.  The two Steelers games, the two Giants games, the Redskins game, and the Pats/Jets games are all going to be horrible.  The rest...could actually be pretty darn entertaining.

 

the NFC East is the sugarbaby goldenboy division of the NFL

 

i don't get it either.

 

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1 hour ago, MR8 said:

The new TV contracts that come into play following the next CBA are going to get very interesting.  The NFL is already testing the waters with different streaming services, and I bet they are going to try and spread out the games more to different networks to make sure their product is more readily available.  Forcing people to need ESPN to watch what is supposed to be your MARQUEE game slate is just plain STUPID.... but putting it on NBC makes a whole hell of a lot of sense because anyone can watch it... same with CBS & Fox.... ABC doesn't want it since it's also owned by Disney and they've made a concerted effort to move all sports over to their ESPN division. 

 

Streaming rights and an end to the "Sunday Ticket" exclusivity contract that has been rumored is going to give the NFL the ability to have content Bidding Wars... it's going to be VERY lucrative in an ever intensifying "Content war" with the media conglomerates...  Netflix and Prime are going to bend over backwards to shove NFL content onto their service.... Prime already has some of the Thursday night slate.  CBS All Access will want the games that are one CBS, Disney will want the games that are on FOX to be put on the Hulu platform, and NBC is slated to launch it's own streaming service in 2022... so they will want more content there like they have Sunday Night Football on the NBC Sports app.

 

Sorry got off on a huge tangent, but my fundamental point is the NFL is trying to put the best games in places where the MOST PEOPLE can see them... which is why Monday Night Football has gone WAAAAAY down since moving off broadcast TV and over to ESPN.  Which is smart of them to keep the best games in places where the most people can see them, but its also stupid because those are supposed to be their "Marquee games" and they're making their ratings look like *****.

 

 

 

the online streaming site DAZN has snaked away all the good soccer games from Canada, and took away the NFL Direct TV package for a few months.

 

has to happen soon in the US, Amazon and its ilk could offer 3 times the current package and laugh and put it all online and require personal information from you to watch.

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3 hours ago, May Day 10 said:

Monday has become the 4th tier of NFL games.  

 

1st - Premier - Sunday night

2nd - Thursday Night

3rd - Premier 4 OClock game(s)

4th - MNF

5th - 1 O'Clock trash heap

I would rank MNF ahead of TNF most weeks.

 

Thursday games are usually horrible.

 

But Monday night games are nothing special either.  

 

The only reliable slot most weeks is Sunday night on NBC.  

 

They seem to get the pick of the league schedule each week.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, inaugural balls said:

 

Interesting take. :thumbsup:

 

I, too, can do without Monday/Thursday games. I never considered a Saturday night. I'd love that actually.

 

 

Only Thursday night games should be opening night, Thanksgiving and if you want the Thursday after Thanksgiving for a couple of teams who played Thanksgiving.  You can only do Saturdays after college football ends.   

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2 minutes ago, RememberTheRockpile said:

 

They can't do Saturday until college football season is over. Has something to do with their the anti-trust exemption.

 

Oh, I'm sure it would not or could it ever be a reality, but I sure do like the idea.

 

My Saturday night slate seems to be open from now until I kick. And I'm ok with this. ?

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2 hours ago, row_33 said:

 

that was a good thing

 

they pretend MNF was the most important event in the history of the world, cripes we only had 4 channels to watch, and nobody wanted to hear Howard ramble or Don goof around

 

 

MNF will always get an up vote from me simply for showing the Houston Oiler fan flipping the bird to the camera as the Oilers were getting blown out.

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3 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

I would rank MNF ahead of TNF most weeks.

 

Thursday games are usually horrible.

 

But Monday night games are nothing special either.  

 

The only reliable slot most weeks is Sunday night on NBC.  

 

They seem to get the pick of the league schedule each week.

 

 

I think they ratcheted up the tnf games last year when the deal changed.  Jacksonville/Tennessee is interesting.  Then eagles packers, then rams seahawks.

Contrast that bears redskins, bengals, steelers, and browns 49ers. 

 

Im in the minority of nfl fans who love tnf.  It makes for a long football weekend.  Usually have an interesting ncaa game friday, saturday, like 14 hours of ncaa, sunday nfl, then mnf.  Tuesday-Wednesday breather, then its already thursday again.  Its also another game we get to watch instead of being buried on sunday afternoon

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ESPN needs to use the old Sunday Night Football crew for their Monday Night games. Mike Patrick, Joe Theismann and Paul McGuire. Paul McGuire is probably in his 80's by now but man, Mike Patrick used to make even the most boring and uninteresting games exciting back in the day during those Sunday Night games

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4 hours ago, RememberTheRockpile said:

 

They can't do Saturday until college football season is over. Has something to do with their the anti-trust exemption.

 

Interesting, I always thought the NFL was just being considerate of college football since they basically run a free farm system for the NFL. I'd like to learn more about this clause if it is part of their anti-trust exemption.

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I understand the NFL tries putting "premier" teams into the primetime slots.  

But too much changes from year to year, and they end up with half the games being terrible anyway.

Two weeks in, and any game from the Colts, Steelers or Saints is likely to be a stinker, simply because of QB injuries.

 

With Sunday Night, Monday Night and Thursday Night, they should just evenly divide the primetime slots among all 32 teams.

Every team gets one of each.  Three primetime games per franchise.

 

It gives each team some nationwide exposure and removes the NFL from playing favorites.  And based on what we've already got, the games should be just as entertaining.

 

 

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17 hours ago, row_33 said:

 

the online streaming site DAZN has snaked away all the good soccer games from Canada, and took away the NFL Direct TV package for a few months.

 

has to happen soon in the US, Amazon and its ilk could offer 3 times the current package and laugh and put it all online and require personal information from you to watch.

 

If Netflix had any brains, they would go HAAAARD After buying the exclusive NFL Rights for streaming.  They're pumping crazy money into development of content and they're still losing market share every month.

 

They have had negative cash flow in the billions going back to 2014, as they have been reinvesting their profits AND borrow billions to try and create unique content.  Yet at the same time people keep cancelling as CBS & Disney yank their properties off Netflix to put them on their own services.  Netflix is getting squeezed out of the market place they essentially proved could be highly profitable.  If they want to buy content that will blow up their subscriptions as well as ensure long term revenue through advertising etc.... buy the NFL slate, or half of it...

 

The thing I see as a worry is the NFL won't necessarily want to get in bed with a company that losing market share and could go under or get bought out mid-way through a new TV contract.  Also parting out games to Hulu (Or ESPN+ which ever Disney decides to try and buy games for), Prime, CBS, NBC Sports, Netflix in bundles would probably make them more money than selling off huge blocks.

 

It's certainly going to be interesting.  The NFL really needs to be sure they put their product in a place where the most people can see it, otherwise they're hurting themselves, but at the same time they need to maximize their dollars since whoever buys the rights are going to make crazy money and market the ***** out of it!

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3 hours ago, Bills2ref said:

Steelers Bengals might surprise you. Game won’t have playoff implications but it should be close. 

 

if you don't have any $$$ interest in the score or stats, or are not a real fan of the teams, you will be committed for watching this game

 

40 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

Why are the giants on twice?  Who predicted they would be good??

 

the NFC East is the darling of the ad-men and the viewing demographics

 

i don't get it...

 

 

43 minutes ago, MR8 said:

 

If Netflix had any brains, they would go HAAAARD After buying the exclusive NFL Rights for streaming.  They're pumping crazy money into development of content and they're still losing market share every month.

 

It's certainly going to be interesting.  The NFL really needs to be sure they put their product in a place where the most people can see it, otherwise they're hurting themselves, but at the same time they need to maximize their dollars since whoever buys the rights are going to make crazy money and market the ***** out of it!

 

a few hot takes have Amazon (or its ilk) offering free access for all the NFL games provided you freely do surveys upon request (just once in awhile)

 

the NFL has the advantage that gambling is still big for its fans and you can always sit down and watch football at your whim and pick up the context immediately

 

and it's a fully ingrained habit/addiction for fans to simply keep watching, including most of the playoffs, which baseball and the other sports can't even dream of gaining

 

 

 

 

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21 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

if you don't have any $$$ interest in the score or stats, or are not a real fan of the teams, you will be committed for watching this game

 

 

the NFC East is the darling of the ad-men and the viewing demographics

 

i don't get it...

 

 

 

a few hot takes have Amazon (or its ilk) offering free access for all the NFL games provided you freely do surveys upon request (just once in awhile)

 

the NFL has the advantage that gambling is still big for its fans and you can always sit down and watch football at your whim and pick up the context immediately

 

and it's a fully ingrained habit/addiction for fans to simply keep watching, including most of the playoffs, which baseball and the other sports can't even dream of gaining

 

 

 

 

yeah the spread of legalized gambling combined with the popularity of fantasy football is going to be huge for the NFL.

 

I think free access for surveys IE quid pro quo is a good way to play it for the groups like Amazon... it;s something they can capitalize on but others like Netflix cannot.  They could sell the info but they can't use it... Amazon can use it to bolster it's own business AND Sell it...  But it also puts the NFL product into the market for free where the others would be limiting... something the NFL seems to be trying to get away from.

 

Very interesting I didn't read that part about surveys for "free" viewing.  That makes Youtube another viable place too for buying NFL games.  They can use the surveys across the other Google owned products etc. 

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39 minutes ago, MR8 said:

yeah the spread of legalized gambling combined with the popularity of fantasy football is going to be huge for the NFL.

 

I think free access for surveys IE quid pro quo is a good way to play it for the groups like Amazon... it;s something they can capitalize on but others like Netflix cannot.  They could sell the info but they can't use it... Amazon can use it to bolster it's own business AND Sell it...  But it also puts the NFL product into the market for free where the others would be limiting... something the NFL seems to be trying to get away from.

 

Very interesting I didn't read that part about surveys for "free" viewing.  That makes Youtube another viable place too for buying NFL games.  They can use the surveys across the other Google owned products etc. 

 

 

just conjecture about collecting data from viewers, which is a big deal to Amazon & Friends.

 

i'm sort of braced for losing cable viewing any day now for any sports event i used to enjoy.....  :(

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Eh.  It's something to do on an otherwise uneventful Monday evening. 

 

I can handle watching less-than-stellar football.  There's always something to root for. 

 

The only thing that makes it truly crappy is Booger.

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1 minute ago, row_33 said:

 

 

just conjecture about collecting data from viewers, which is a big deal to Amazon & Friends.

 

i'm sort of braced for losing cable viewing any day now for any sports event i used to enjoy.....  :(

 

 

I haven't had cable for 4 years now.  It was really hard at first not getting Sabres games (as there is no alternative for cord cutters who live "In market").  But you get used to it... I don't get Thursday Night Football unless it's one of the ones on Prime, but those games suck anyways and again, you get used to it and do other things with your time.

 

It does suck, but these sports leagues are losing money from this stuff because people like me just stop paying attention.  I was a Sabres Season Ticket Holder a few years ago, I now couldn't name more than 4 people on the team.  The Tank combined with the NHL making it impossible to watch in market (Center Ice blacks out "local Games" and MSG doesn't have streaming rights for Sabres games because Center Ice Does. Plus TSN streams but not in Buffalo because it's "locally blacked out") games without buying cable basically took the entire product away from me.  Because of that I lost all interest.  I emailed the Sabres 4 different times complaining and got no response, so it just showed me they don't care... so why should I?

 

 

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11 minutes ago, MR8 said:

 

I haven't had cable for 4 years now.  It was really hard at first not getting Sabres games (as there is no alternative for cord cutters who live "In market").  But you get used to it... I don't get Thursday Night Football unless it's one of the ones on Prime, but those games suck anyways and again, you get used to it and do other things with your time.

 

It does suck, but these sports leagues are losing money from this stuff because people like me just stop paying attention.  I was a Sabres Season Ticket Holder a few years ago, I now couldn't name more than 4 people on the team.  The Tank combined with the NHL making it impossible to watch in market (Center Ice blacks out "local Games" and MSG doesn't have streaming rights for Sabres games because Center Ice Does. Plus TSN streams but not in Buffalo because it's "locally blacked out") games without buying cable basically took the entire product away from me.  Because of that I lost all interest.  I emailed the Sabres 4 different times complaining and got no response, so it just showed me they don't care... so why should I?

 

 

 

I'm slicing back on watching things anyways, finishing off a Masters Degree by the end of next summer, it hurt losing every important soccer game to an online streaming company but that's life.

 

 

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