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Not really up on the Bengals so there is that. I see that they are having O-line issues and that they favour a pass heavy O. If they stick with it that favours the Bills. Subject to exactly what their run blocking ability is right now, I would have thought their gameplan would be to at least try to establish the run. I like both Mixon and GB. If they can do that their passing game would benefit and John Ross is the type of receiver that can create problems for our secondary if they can get him in single coverage on the outside.

What I'd like to see is for the Bills to put in a convincing performance on both sides of the ball, but especially on offence. JA's progress has been very encouraging but sooner or later Daboll will have to open things up. I want to see how Allen handles that.

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6 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

Not really up on the Bengals so there is that. I see that they are having O-line issues and that they favour a pass heavy O. If they stick with it that favours the Bills. Subject to exactly what their run blocking ability is right now, I would have thought their gameplan would be to at least try to establish the run. I like both Mixon and GB. If they can do that their passing game would benefit and John Ross is the type of receiver that can create problems for our secondary if they can get him in single coverage on the outside.

What I'd like to see is for the Bills to put in a convincing performance on both sides of the ball, but especially on offence. JA's progress has been very encouraging but sooner or later Daboll will have to open things up. I want to see how Allen handles that.

 

out of curiosity, what would you consider daboll "opening things up" lol...id say things have looked pretty friggin open personally.

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After seeing what happened to Darnold and Eli after playing the Bills, Andy might be a little worried 

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1 minute ago, PaattMaann said:

 

out of curiosity, what would you consider daboll "opening things up" lol...id say things have looked pretty friggin open personally.

 

Yes the Bills O has been fairly well balanced and diversified overall. It certainly hasn't been conservative. The short passing game has been and will obviously continue to be central and it's been great to see Allen execute it as well as he has so far. The short passing game has been a question with him and he appears to be answering it. But I'm thinking ahead to what more we need to do when we play a really solid defence, like in a couple of weeks. To leave open the short passing game as a viable option I think we need to establish the long ball as a credible threat along the lines of when Allen overthrew Brown versus the Giants. Had they been able to connect on that it could very well have broken the G-Men and opened the door to the type of dominance that some, including me, have yet to see. That would enable us to consistently blow out weaker teams, and make us more competitive with better ones.  Allen has the arm and with Brown, Foster and Zay their WRs are good enuf to support this approach IMO.

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13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

After seeing what happened to Darnold and Eli after playing the Bills, Andy might be a little worried 

 

Which Bills player gave Darnold mono?

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Agree with some that I'd like to see us connect on some deep shots this week.  We haven't taken many this year, and with Brown and Foster on the outside, this seems like it should be a staple of a Josh Allen led Offense. 

 

If we're getting greedy, I'd also like to see Josh and Zay get on the same page more than once per game.  It just never seems to click with them, yet.   Zay probably could've housed that slant if Josh put it on him..  Those are plays Zay needs for his development.

 

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6 minutes ago, dma0034 said:

 

Which Bills player gave Darnold mono?

 

Kyle Peko.

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16 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

 

Yes the Bills O has been fairly well balanced and diversified overall. It certainly hasn't been conservative. The short passing game has been and will obviously continue to be central and it's been great to see Allen execute it as well as he has so far. The short passing game has been a question with him and he appears to be answering it. But I'm thinking ahead to what more we need to do when we play a really solid defence, like in a couple of weeks. To leave open the short passing game as a viable option I think we need to establish the long ball as a credible threat along the lines of when Allen overthrew Brown versus the Giants. Had they been able to connect on that it could very well have broken the G-Men and opened the door to the type of dominance that some, including me, have yet to see. That would enable us to consistently blow out weaker teams, and make us more competitive with better ones.  Allen has the arm and with Brown, Foster and Zay their WRs are good enuf to support this approach IMO.

 

I would say we played a really solid defense in week 1 and JA threw for over 250 yards. Many of those passes were downfield/vertical. 

 

We saw many downfield/vertical passes last week. 

 

What you are calling a short passing game, I would argue is just called "a passing game". JA has been taking what the defense gives him, but also pushing the ball downfield. If you don't think he has pushing the ball down field, I don't know what to tell you. 

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Just win, 

 

 In Bills in the past this would be that very Billsy loss.  and that is what my Gut is turning about.

 

Favored, Home Opener, Optimism = all setting up for that KICK to the Gut Billsy loss.

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1 minute ago, PaattMaann said:

 

I would say we played a really solid defense in week 1 and JA threw for over 250 yards. Many of those passes were downfield/vertical. 

 

We saw many downfield/vertical passes last week. 

 

What you are calling a short passing game, I would argue is just called "a passing game". JA has been taking what the defense gives him, but also pushing the ball downfield. If you don't think he has pushing the ball down field, I don't know what to tell you. 

 

Yes he is pushing the ball downfield and unquestionably the short/intermediate range passes are going to continue to be the staple of the team's passing attack, as it is of just about every teams that has a good passing game. Nobody lives/dies predominately with the long ball. And of course there is nothing wrong with weekly 250 yard passing performances. What I'm saying is that something that would help our O, to help put it over the top, would be to better establish the long ball as a credible threat. Against weaker teams 350 yards of passing O  would be nice to see once in a while. I think we have the passer and the receivers to do (more) of that. If you don't think that is true, I don't know what to tell you, except that we disagree. 

By the way, the Jets had a couple of really bad corners playing in that first game. It's largely because we picked on them that we won. Y'know, John Brown. Just saying I'd like to see a bit more of that. Oh, so maybe you don't think Allen is capable of that. Well then again we disagree. 

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17 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Just win, 

 

 In Bills in the past this would be that very Billsy loss.  and that is what my Gut is turning about.

 

Favored, Home Opener, Optimism = all setting up for that KICK to the Gut Billsy loss.

 

man up.

 

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7 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

man up.

 

 

Once they prove to me that there will not be a Billsy loss like history shows.  I will feel more confident.  I felt good against the Jets and Giants.  I also feel that the Bills should handle the Bengals as well, but there is that feeling of a Billsy Loss.

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33 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

 

Yes he is pushing the ball downfield and unquestionably the short/intermediate range passes are going to continue to be the staple of the team's passing attack, as it is of just about every teams that has a good passing game. Nobody lives/dies predominately with the long ball. And of course there is nothing wrong with weekly 250 yard passing performances. What I'm saying is that something that would help our O, to help put it over the top, would be to better establish the long ball as a credible threat. Against weaker teams 350 yards of passing O  would be nice to see once in a while. I think we have the passer and the receivers to do (more) of that. If you don't think that is true, I don't know what to tell you, except that we disagree. 

By the way, the Jets had a couple of really bad corners playing in that first game. It's largely because we picked on them that we won. Y'know, John Brown. Just saying I'd like to see a bit more of that. Oh, so maybe you don't think Allen is capable of that. Well then again we disagree. 

 

No, not at all. I thought thats what you were getting at with saying we need to see that. I think he is more than capable and has been showing it for weeks now (dating back to last season). I don't personally need to see him throw for a certain number of yards to see that we have a true NFL passing attack finally. We certainly do. 

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2 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:

 

No, not at all. I thought thats what you were getting at with saying we need to see that. I think he is more than capable and has been showing it for weeks now (dating back to last season). I don't personally need to see him throw for a certain number of yards to see that we have a true NFL passing attack finally. We certainly do. 

 

No one, not his most ardent pre-draft critics, have ever doubted Josh Allen's ability to throw the long ball. He and Mahomes probably have the strongest arms in the NFL. And Allen's long ball was also always credited with reasonable to above average accuracy. It was the perceived inaccuracy of his short passing game that was flagged as a potential career ending liability (along with occasional poor decision making). Given a pocket to work from dude has the wherewithal to be one of the better long ball artist in the game without question. I'm pretty sure eventually we will see more of it, just a question of when Daboll decides to deploy it. Agree that we have an NFL passing attack. IMO a credible long ball threat very much helps to preserve it, especially against the better, more complete Ds we will in due course be facing. Like NE for example. 

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1 hour ago, PaattMaann said:

 

out of curiosity, what would you consider daboll "opening things up" lol...id say things have looked pretty friggin open personally.

 

Seriously. People have been complaining the Bills are passing too much!

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I don't think I've seen this article posted yet.... Fun little pump up read for the week!   "Today's Bills roam from town to town, barrels blazing, eyes open for the next overstuffed heavy to flatten into a memory. This time around, Week 17 won't do for an endpoint,".... HELL YES.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001055843/article/bills-season-should-include-playoff-trip-dallas-boasts-rising-star

 

Road-warrior Bills roam from burgh to burgh laying waste

Dust and nothingness.

That's what the Buffalo Bills would amount to if the National Football League was birthed today.

Hand-picking 32 teams from bustling meccas boasting money-in-the-bank television markets, new-day gridiron architects would brush off the tractor beam of Western New York in favor of the Orlando SunSpots, San Antonio Droid-Mares or London Underground.

 

Thank the Maker we have the Bills, pro football's beloved rough-and-tumble band of heavies completely unwilling to play along with the script. These delightful, red-white-and-blue clad footballers have attacked the NFL as would any plugged-in military general worth his salt: house-by-house and town-by-town until the region -- and beyond -- is won.

The Bills have opened the campaign by setting their in-state rivals on fire, marching 369 miles by night from Buffalo to East Rutherford, New Jersey, where the sleeping Jets were camped a week ago. Tired by their on-foot journey, Buffalo fell into a 16-0 hole against Sam Darnold, Le'Veon Bell and a Gang Green squad that generated a dash of playoff buzz in August. The Bills would not be held down, though, squelching the Jets in a blaze of holy fire, leaving their AFC East rivals banged, tattered and nursing strange viruses.

 

Buffalo's defensive unit returned one week later to thump the New York Football Giants, pulling the plug on Big Blue's paint-by-numbers offense led by a since-benched Eli Manning. Josh Allen's bruising Bills attack did the rest, with the second-year quarterback overcoming spats of pocket pressure to author touchdown drives of 75, 70, 98 and 75 yards.

The Bills walked into MetLife Stadium and torched the place to terra firma, opening 2-0 on the road for the first time in franchise history. You can bash these merits by dismissing the Giants and Jets as suspect operations, but I'd point to Buffalo's makeup: One of the game's top defenses armed with an early Defensive Rookie of the Year candidate in first-rounder Ed Oliver, who coaxed a trance-state Eli into a batted pass late in the second quarter that wound up being picked off, killing a scoring chance for New York in Buffalo territory.

Allen is far from crystal clean. He spat out four turnovers against the Jets, but showed resiliency as Buffalo put up 17 unanswered points for the win. On Sunday, the quarterback displayed the brand of progress you hope for in a second-year passer, eschewing the desire to scramble in favor of finding targets John Brown and Cole Beasley in space. Coach Sean McDermott has worked seamlessly with defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier and offensive play-caller Brian Daboll to milk the most out of a roster light on stars but heavy on crush-you-into-salt cohesiveness.

 

It's easy to forget McDermott tugged a much-lesser Bills club into the postseason two years ago, falling 10-3 to the Blake Bortles-led Jaguars in a low-wattage slugfest that left viewers questioning human existence. I have no memory of covering the tussle, but it happened, as I noted in a lonely January report: "This white-knuckle affair resembled a brand of football your grandfather's grandfather watched on a 12-inch black-and-white boob tube in fire-lit parlors during ancient days of old."

 

We're farther along in history now, Super-Woke in a new world where Buffalo rolls into autumn Sundays as one of the game's more intriguing, rugged-but-lovable offerings. Unbeaten and untied after a fortnight on the road, the Bills return home to face a work-in-progress Bengals team before hosting the Patriots in Week 4.

The NFL's acid test approaches -- and it's fair to wonder if this year's club will simply blend into previous editions of Bills Team X vs. Little Miss Perfect Patriots: A few punches to New England's chiseled midsection before Tom Brady -- or fill-in-the-blank recently acquired superstar -- lands a right hook that reduces Buffalo's wannabe lineup into a blubbering King Hippo.

 

That's how it's been for two decades of despair in those old Western New York towns of Tonawanda, West Seneca, Getzville and Depew. Rochester, Lackawanna, Blasdell and Sloan have known little but sadness from Orchard Park as Buffalo's football team appeared destined to spend every January shoveling the driveway.

This year's plot feels punched up in all the right ways: Dismissed bumpkins from a distant corner of the Empire State ride into the big city and lay TOTAL WASTE to their tabloid-generating in-state foes, turning the G-Men into g-men and the Jets into a child's paper plane fluttering toward a puddle of godless fire.

Today's Bills roam from town to town, barrels blazing, eyes open for the next overstuffed heavy to flatten into a memory. This time around, Week 17 won't do for an endpoint.

The anti-hero we need is among us.

 

 

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58 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

Once they prove to me that there will not be a Billsy loss like history shows.  I will feel more confident.  I felt good against the Jets and Giants.  I also feel that the Bills should handle the Bengals as well, but there is that feeling of a Billsy Loss.

 

man up.

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Checking out the Bengals forums most of them feel they lose this one against us badly. 

 

http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Bengals-Bills-predictions--21186

 

"The Bills are 2-0 and riding the high of a young QB and playing with a ton of energy.

The Bengals are 0-2 and riding around in a circle of the drain playing with the energy of a corpse.

Oh, and it is at Buffalo.

Bills 30
Bengals 10"

 

"Buffalo isn't as good as SanFran. I'll say 34 - 20 Bills win."   

"31-13 Bills It would be 31-16 except for the missed FG."

"Lot of whistling past the graveyard in this thread.  30-16 Buffalo.  Score could be worse, but Bills let off the gas in deference to Andy, who's still Jerry-Lewis-in-France-popular with the Bills fans for his New Year's Eve heroics back in '17. "

 

A couple saying the Bengals will win but all in all the majority thinking Bills win. 

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Bills about to crack the "Herd Hierarchy" for the first time in like forever. Even Cowturd is paying attention to us now...

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