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If any of you have read Jim Kubiak's columns on QB play you understand he has no pro-Bills agenda other than he is writing for the Buffalo News.  In today's column he affirms what many of us have said but the national and local media have somehow missed -- Josh Allen was not terrible at all during the 1st half.

 

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9 minutes ago, eball said:

If any of you have read Jim Kubiak's columns on QB play you understand he has no pro-Bills agenda other than he is writing for the Buffalo News.  In today's column he affirms what many of us have said but the national and local media have somehow missed -- Josh Allen was not terrible at all during the 1st half.

 

Enjoy.

Confirmation bias. Everyone is wrong, except for those that agree with us. 

 

A win is a win. its hard to sugar coat four turnovers and a safety.  Something among the preparation, play calling and/or execution is at least a small part of those results. 

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11 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said:

Confirmation bias. Everyone is wrong, except for those that agree with us. 

 

A win is a win. its hard to sugar coat four turnovers and a safety.  Something among the preparation, play calling and/or execution is at least a small part of those results. 

 

 

I think the way Allen plays the next few games will let us know if it was just a string of bad luck, or if he is actually the guy that the rest of the stats imply.

 

I believe it will be the latter.

 

I suppose you expect 3 or 4 turnovers game?

 

 

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Not to sound cheap, but is it worth subscribing to the athletic? I feel like most of these writers are worse then the people we have on TSW. For those who have it, do you get your moneys worth? 

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2 minutes ago, 32ABBA said:

 

 

I think the way Allen plays the next few games will let us know if it was just a string of bad luck, or if he is actually the guy that the rest of the stats imply.

 

I believe it will be the latter.

So you believe we will have balls bouncing off receivers hands, hitting their thigh and going straight into the arms of a linebacker going forward?

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An excellent line from his commentary:

" This might deter teams from blitzing and will create strategic turmoil for upcoming defensive units."

Strategic turmoil, love it!

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12 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said:

Confirmation bias. Everyone is wrong, except for those that agree with us. 

 

A win is a win. its hard to sugar coat four turnovers and a safety.  Something among the preparation, play calling and/or execution is at least a small part of those results. 

So, everything they did as a team had bearing on the outcome?

Thank You for that concise deduction🤓

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23 minutes ago, eball said:

If any of you have read Jim Kubiak's columns on QB play you understand he has no pro-Bills agenda other than he is writing for the Buffalo News.  In today's column he affirms what many of us have said but the national and local media have somehow missed -- Josh Allen was not terrible at all during the 1st half.

 

Enjoy.

 

thanks 

 

To those who actually pay attention ....  this is a 

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moment.

 

To those not willing to see......   well   (fill in the blank) _ _ _ _ _ _

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21 minutes ago, eball said:

If any of you have read Jim Kubiak's columns on QB play you understand he has no pro-Bills agenda other than he is writing for the Buffalo News.  In today's column he affirms what many of us have said but the national and local media have somehow missed -- Josh Allen was not terrible at all during the 1st half.

 

Enjoy.

But...but...but...four turnovers. Haven't you heard?

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5 minutes ago, Chris from Rochester said:

Not to sound cheap, but is it worth subscribing to the athletic? I feel like most of these writers are worse then the people we have on TSW. For those who have it, do you get your moneys worth? 

Absolutely. 

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1 minute ago, 32ABBA said:

 

 

I think the way Allen plays the next few games will let us know if it was just a string of bad luck, or if he is actually the guy that the rest of the stats imply.

 

I believe it will be the latter.

I think Allen will be great.  I think Daboll designs and calls too many plays where defenders can sit on the obvious passing lane.  Everyone blamed Peterman (including me) for not being able to make some throws.  Allen can make any imaginable throw that any human can make.  But yet, Daboll had a play designed to make him look like Peterman on the second interception.    I think Daboll needs to remove the 30 yard horizontal 5 yard vertical out pass entirely.  

 

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29 minutes ago, eball said:

If any of you have read Jim Kubiak's columns on QB play you understand he has no pro-Bills agenda other than he is writing for the Buffalo News.  In today's column he affirms what many of us have said but the national and local media have somehow missed -- Josh Allen was not terrible at all during the 1st half.

 

Enjoy.

 

Says I need a subscription to read 😥

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4 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

So, everything they did as a team had bearing on the outcome?

Thank You for that concise deduction🤓

Reading things in context is hard for you. 

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7 minutes ago, Chris from Rochester said:

Not to sound cheap, but is it worth subscribing to the athletic? I feel like most of these writers are worse then the people we have on TSW. For those who have it, do you get your moneys worth? 

 

Nope.   We can read all of our fellow TBDers comments and get the content for free.  

 

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As I've said 100 times, Allen will make errant throws every game. So long as he offsets a bad int in a game with 2 or 3 td passes, who gives a *****? 

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5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Says I need a subscription to read 😥

A really good article.

 

A few nuggets for you about the 1st half:

 

1st Qtr

Allen’s first quarter consisted of 18 plays: 12 passing and five running. He completed 8 of 12 passes, moving the team on two drives that each began on the Bills' 25-yard line.

 

The embarrassing back-to-back turnovers made it seem as if the Bills had done nothing right in the first quarter. The breakdown, however, told another story. Neither first quarter turnover was the result of a poor decision or the lack of concern for protecting the football. Allen graded out to an 83% in the first quarter, and would have been nearly perfect without the turnovers.

 

2nd Qtr

Allen was 7 of 11 passing in the second quarter, leading the Bills on a nine-play drive that began on their own 5 before a fumbled snap on fourth-and-1. Upon review, it appeared as though Allen closed his hands before the snap under center Mitch Morse. This is an unusual occurrence for any quarterback and indicates that Allen was expecting the ball earlier, perhaps on a “silent count” or he was expecting the snap upon “goosing the center” with pressure from his hands. 

 

1st Half

The detailed review of these plays unveils one common and positive similarity: Not a single turnover was the result of Allen trying to do too much or making a poor decision. This is the silver lining and the most important takeaway. Allen was 15 of 23, completing 65% in spite of a fumble, pick six off a deflection, a fumbled snap and a second deflected interception.

 

Allen’s growth and maturity were clearly evident in the review of the play-by-play. He displayed impressive command, footwork, presence in the pocket, accuracy, and had an overall quarterback performance grade of 90%.

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19 minutes ago, Chris from Rochester said:

Not to sound cheap, but is it worth subscribing to the athletic? I feel like most of these writers are worse then the people we have on TSW. For those who have it, do you get your moneys worth? 

I like The Athletic and think it's worth the money, but YMMV.

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Good read, it looks like someone actually watched the game before making any judgments.  I said at halftime that all the turnovers were fixable unlucky mistakes and if we can stop making them we will win this game.

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25 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said:

As I've said 100 times, Allen will make errant throws every game. So long as he offsets a bad int in a game with 2 or 3 td passes, who gives a *****? 

agreed! EVERY qb will make an errand throw here and there, and when they are younger they have the tendency to do it a bit more often. As he matures, he will settle down, the game will get slower and he will get better at reading the defense this tendency will will become nothing more than an infrequent laps in judgment while trying to make something out of nothing.

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He did not have an awful first half. He had a mixed first half. He had a great start but got more erratic after the miscues (even though most of them were not on him).  

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48 minutes ago, Chris from Rochester said:

Not to sound cheap, but is it worth subscribing to the athletic? I feel like most of these writers are worse then the people we have on TSW. For those who have it, do you get your moneys worth? 

I just got this on Sunday and if you pay the whole year up front, it's like $2.90 a month. For $34.80 a year and even if I only read it during football season it's so worth it. 

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2 hours ago, eball said:

If any of you have read Jim Kubiak's columns on QB play you understand he has no pro-Bills agenda other than he is writing for the Buffalo News.  In today's column he affirms what many of us have said but the national and local media have somehow missed -- Josh Allen was not terrible at all during the 1st half.

 

Enjoy.

 

It's an excellent read, thanks.   I would phrase it perhaps a bit differently - Allen indeed had an awful first half, because any QB who's team has 4 TO had an awful first half.  But he also did a lot of good things.  Kubiak absolves Allen for the first 2 TO and puts it more on Dawkins (who did get beaten like a drum, but that's gonna happen from time to time).  Compare and contrast to Daboll (TBN, paywall), who is measured about mistakes and upbeat about Allen:
“There’s always a reason for a turnover,” Daboll said. “Whether it’s ball location, finishing a catch, an arm angle. We’re not about making excuses, but there’s going to be some that take bad bounces and that’s football. But you can always look to improve. We have to get the quarterback-center exchange taken care of. We have to keep two hands on the ball in the pocket. We have to make a play when it comes our way even if it’s a little bit low. So, we can do a better a job of that, we need to do a better job with that, that’s where it starts. And again, some are bounces you’re going to have to overcome.”

 

While he's not throwing anyone under the bus, I think that what Daboll says there is a pretty good clue to the thinking of the guy whose job it is to watch film and get the offense on track assigns responsibility.  The strip-sack fumble is on Allen.  He sensed the defender coming and put out his L arm to push him off rather than covering up the football with both arms and tucking himself around it.  He puts the INT more on Beasley - Allen's throw was low, but catchable, and they paid Beasley to make those plays.  The fumbled snap is on both of them, they have to get it straight.  And he pretty much thinks the deflected INT was a fluke they have to overcome.

 

It's amazing to me how knowledgeable sensible people - pundits and fans - say some of the stuff they do

Consider Michael Lombardi: “Down 16-0, Josh Allen can’t really make a throw; he’s missing receivers, he turned the ball over. He’s so erratic," Lombardi said

That's ridiculous.  Allen was 63% completion in the first half, 66% in the first Q. 

Consider this Jets fan's Youtube recap (He's obviously a true football fan like some of us here - he can comment sensibly on differences in the two teams offseason strategies for example and he's honest about what he saw from the Jets, Darnold and Gase.  At 4:30, he says Allen was "rocky" and "a lot of those passes were incompletes" at the start of the game.  Facts: they weren't.  (I found the frustration of a knowledgable Jets fan truly enjoyable btw, it may be I'm a sick puppy)

 

Confirmation bias is a Thing in all walks of life.  Allen is perceived as an erratic, inaccurate thrower, and that's what people will see, especially when they read a statline like 2 fumbles, 2 INTs.

 

Oh yeah, and Michael Lombardi? Josh Allen looks in a mirror regularly, and he seems very grounded and realistic about what he sees there.  He's a Dawg, and he's working to be a bigger Dawg, but he ain't your little Bella.

 

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