Royale with Cheese Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: And according to Beane, they had talks, but never agreed: https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2019/03/brandon-beane-in-the-end-antonio-brown-trade-didnt-make-sense-for-bills-steeler.html I kind of tend to believe the Beaner on this. His argument is the media wouldn't be wrong. They would not report it if it wasn't done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 Just now, K-9 said: David Carr? Not so much. Derrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: This board completely overrates Beane. Davis and Boldin both quit. There have been some nice moves but man, people really do treat this guy like a God. It was a stupid idea to try and bring this guy here and Buffalo got laughed at because of it. It is funny. Beane tried and was not successful in getting AB because he did not want to come here. Yes, it now probably is good that he didnt. But lets not pretend like Beane did anything positive here. He essentially failed in trying to get him, but got lucky AB did not want to come or it would be the Bills dealing with this nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Just now, Reed83HOF said: Derrick Da'Rick 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Just now, Reed83HOF said: Derrick Haha. My bad. I get my sucky Carr QBs confused all the time! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: Yeah, who would want the best WR in football? Still, not quite as stoopid as declaring Tyrod Taylor a franchise QB after 2015! Yeesh, you should see a doctor for that BDS. We can name a ton of things that teams have done that were more stupid than trading for AB, but trading for AB is pretty unbelievably stupid. He'll never be considered the best WR in the NFL until he decides to stop wearing that skirt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: His argument is the media wouldn't be wrong. They would not report it if it wasn't done. Oh god, this again. That’s just one aspect of the situation. Please don’t sum up my entire argument for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: Perhaps the Raiders were hoping that this combination would do for them what it did for the Steelers .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Many posters on this board, and I won't name names (starts with an S and ends with W) believe otherwise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Chemical said: Oh god, this again. That’s just one aspect of the situation. Please don’t sum up my entire argument for me. I posted the entire thread so others can read your entire argument LOL. And there is only one aspect...done deal or not. That's it. Yet you're trying to argue semantics! Edited September 5, 2019 by Royale with Cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Mayock has not handled the situation very well from day 1 IMO. If you’re gonna take on a personality like AB you better know how to manage it, and to me Mayock has been going at it poorly this whole time helping lead up to this meltdown. Not deflecting responsibility from AB, but they knew who he was and then have tried to play the iron fist with him instead of managing the situation better. Thats the crazy thing, week 17 of last season I was like AB is a selfish player and doesnt put the team first. Since then he's blown the doors off that theory, is there some other factor were missing here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, MJS said: Even if he is suspended on that opening day? ...I think so....he would NOT be on the roster for week 1...... 19 minutes ago, Chemical said: Holy hell, he actually has reason to be this upset if that’s true. Its basically a 30mil fine ...would think if Mayock does not have the gonads, he better be ready for more episodes......this is a test.......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, ngbills said: It is funny. Beane tried and was not successful in getting AB because he did not want to come here. Yes, it now probably is good that he didnt. But lets not pretend like Beane did anything positive here. He essentially failed in trying to get him, but got lucky AB did not want to come or it would be the Bills dealing with this nonsense. Correct. Everyone seems to forget the “they’ve lost the locker room” stories when McD went to Peterman the first time, or the second time (with that brilliant halftime retirement), or when he whiffed on KB or Corey Coleman, or when the Richie Renegotiation Show went haywire ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, ngbills said: It is funny. Beane tried and was not successful in getting AB because he did not want to come here. Yes, it now probably is good that he didnt. But lets not pretend like Beane did anything positive here. He essentially failed in trying to get him, but got lucky AB did not want to come or it would be the Bills dealing with this nonsense. This is assuming a lot. "Successful" and "unsuccessful" always depend upon how the player is valued by both sides. Beane did do something "positive" if he had an appropriate valuation on AB and didn't exceed it. There's also the possibility that in a different environment, with different personalities, AB wouldn't be in the same place causing the same kerfluffle. I personally tend to think AB is a total headcase now and can't help himself, but it is a possibility. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 38 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Too bad that he is, “a heavy-legged-waist-bender.” looks like we found our new punter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Johnnycage46 said: This right here is why I always laugh when Schopp says culture doesn't matter and only talent matters. I fully agree with your laughing In my experience with pro sports its more than just talent. You need a coach who obviously knows his ***** and can be dynamic in the moment(s) while getting the most of the talent on the roster in any given year. You need a GM who can regularly find under appreciated talent that excels in a better "culture" and is affordable, and you need to get the QB selection right. Only a team with this in place can properly utilize expensive talent to propel them to championships. Oakland adding AB was the wrong player for the wrong team at the wrong time. But Oakland moving to Las Vegas had much to do with this bad decision.... All I can say is I tried to warn Oakland but they kept hanging the phone up on me, when I kept calling, begging them to hear me out. Hey its their loss. Next time they'll listen though LOL!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: Yeah, who would want the best WR in football? Still, not quite as stoopid as declaring Tyrod Taylor a franchise QB after 2015! Thinking, he used to be the best...now he’s just a F up of a magnitude rarely seen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) A suspension of Antonio Brown would wipe out $29.125 million in guarantees Posted by Mike Florio on September 5, 2019, 1:11 PM EDT Assuming that a suspension would void the guarantees, the Raiders would be able to cut Brown at any point and owe him nothing further. They could even do it now, turning the Brown experiment into a $1 million mistake (signing bonus)— along with the third-round and fifth-round pick they surrendered to the Steelers acquire him. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/09/05/a-suspension-of-antonio-brown-would-wipe-out-29-125-million-in-guarantees/ Edited September 5, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 24 minutes ago, MJS said: Even if he is suspended on that opening day? Especially if he's suspended on that opening day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Seoulofstone said: No didn't miss your point. So if he does all the same actions behind closed doors AB won't be upset? Can you be sure of that? can the Raiders still cut AB? As a manager of 50+ personalities, sometimes it not what you said, it's how you say it. I think in AB's case, same things could have been said in a private setting and yes, I think he would have reacted differently. Him being a "diva" (not what I would call it), one on one is always the best way to handle that type of personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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