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How Climate Could Tear the Democratic Party Apart

Politico, by Michael Grunwald

 

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Elissa Slotkin has learned that climate change is both a national emergency and a political opportunity. As an assistant secretary of defense under President Barack Obama, she helped lead the Pentagon’s first study of how climate change threatens U.S. military bases. Then as a Democratic candidate for Congress in 2018, she attacked her Republican opponent for questioning the scientific consensus on climate change—and that’s one reason she’s now a Democratic member of Congress

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17 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

YAY !

 

Impeachment Activist Tom Steyer Qualifies for October Democrat Debate

by Joel B. Pollak

 

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and by "qualified", they mean.....................................bought his way in ?

 

I don't know that there's any organization in the country less democratic than the Democratic Party.

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....good Lord, how HARD and FAR we have fallen.......third rate cesspool of intolerance, hatred, vitriol, foment, violence because of differing opinions, etc.....and of course it is all on Trump....comical about through the years the battle cry was to elect a "Washington Outsider" to  clean up the Potomac graft, corruption, stench, and whatever adjective you want to add...so we FINALLY get one who is brash, irascible, condescending, arrogant, speaks what others wanted to say or do ,but didn't have to gonads to say, do so or stand up....I am not a fan of his past business practices, but turning the corrupt, manipulative, politically partisan environment (people's business my royal azz)on its long needed and ugly head is nothing like anything this in modern history....biggest problem is that there is a chlorine shortage for "The Swamp"......

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14 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

....good Lord, how HARD and FAR we have fallen.......third rate cesspool of intolerance, hatred, vitriol, foment, violence because of differing opinions, etc.....and of course it is all on Trump....comical about through the years the battle cry was to elect a "Washington Outsider" to  clean up the Potomac graft, corruption, stench, and whatever adjective you want to add...so we FINALLY get one who is brash, irascible, condescending, arrogant, speaks what others wanted to say or do ,but didn't have to gonads to say, do so or stand up....I am not a fan of his past business practices, but turning the corrupt, manipulative, politically partisan environment (people's business my royal azz)on its long needed and ugly head is nothing like anything this in modern history....biggest problem is that there is a chlorine shortage for "The Swamp"......

 

it's always been that way

 

read The Education of Henry Adams or anything H.L. Mencken gave us...

 

 

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STEPHEN GREEN SUMS UP THE DEMOCRATS’ DEBATE: 

 

“This wasn’t a debate. It was an over-long display of huge egos touting small ideas to well-meaning (but sadly misinformed) kids and preening celebrity infotainment newsreaders. And yet, chances are a large number of American primary voters will make one of these jokers their nominee for the office of President of the United States.”

 

Plus: “Biggest Lie of the Night: ‘It was a great debate. I think we learned a lot tonight.’ -G. Stephanopoulos ............What a preening suck-up.”

 

 

 

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Pretty clear nothing changed with this debate, other than Castro and Yang probably falling out of the race.

 

Harris was almost cringe-worthy. Big fall after her first debate.

 

Sanders probably falls, too.

 

Klobuchar was meh.

 

Warren was fine.

 

Beto had his best debate by far. He moved something.

 

Booker and Buttigueg have been pretty consistently strong. I would prefer either as our Democratic nominee over anyone else.

 

But nothing changed. Biden is still the frontrunner after what was his best debate.

 

Cherry pick his gaffes (record player) if you want, but anyone pointing to those as the reason he loses to Trump in a general election...

 

well....

 

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7 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Darn, I missed it. Did anyone watch it? Real (non snarky) cliff notes would be appreciated. ? 

 

I saw a fair chunk of it and quickly realized that it was a couple hours of candidates mostly agreeing with each other.  It was as though each one was being extra careful to not step on their own foot (Biden failed).  You missed little to nothing.

 

 

 

 

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43 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

The Debates really don't matter. John Kerry beat up on Bush in 2004 and still lost. Romney beat up on Obama in 2012 and still lost, Hillary beat Trump three times really badly and won popular vote but still lost in EC. 

 

You were this embarrassed by the debates ? ????

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That pandering circus of socialists last night reminded me of this.

 

A woman in a hot air balloon realizes she is lost. She lowers her altitude and spots a man fishing from a boat below. She shouts to him, "Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't know where I am."

The man consults his portable GPS and replies,

"You're in a hot air balloon, approximately 30 feet above a ground elevation of 2,346 feet above sea level. You are at 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and 100 degrees, 49.09 minutes west longitude.

 

She rolls her eyes and says, "You must be a Republican!" "I am," replies the man. "How did you know?"

"Well," answers the balloonist, "everything you tell me is technically correct, but I have no idea what to do with your information, and I'm still lost. Frankly, you're not much help to me."

 

The man smiles and responds, "You must be a Democrat." "I am, replies the balloonist. "How did you know?"

"Well," says the man, "You don't know where you are or where you're going. You've risen to where you are due to a large quantity of hot air. You made a promise that you have no idea how to keep, and now you expect me to solve your problem. You're in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but, somehow, now it's my fault."

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 Fascist Fangs Come Out at Democrat Debate.

I didn’t watch all of Round 3, I went back to my old ways and let Twitter and my PJ Media colleagues watch it for me. Doing that gives me a good way to assess which candidates are resonating and who’s getting the most favorable buzz.

 

I did, however, tune in every now and then, immediately regretting the decision each time.

 

Each time I did, I saw a different candidate explain why the federal government needed to intervene in my life in order to make it “better.” Suffice it to say that I was not moved by the sales pitch.

It reminded me very much of PJ O’Rourke’s quip about the title of one of those books Hillary Clinton allowed herself to be named author of:

“Washington is the village, and you’re the child.”

 
 
 
 
 
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7 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Pretty clear nothing changed with this debate, other than Castro and Yang probably falling out of the race.

 

Harris was almost cringe-worthy. Big fall after her first debate.

 

Sanders probably falls, too.

 

Klobuchar was meh.

 

Warren was fine.

 

Beto had his best debate by far. He moved something.

 

Booker and Buttigueg have been pretty consistently strong. I would prefer either as our Democratic nominee over anyone else.

 

But nothing changed. Biden is still the frontrunner after what was his best debate.

 

Cherry pick his gaffes (record player) if you want, but anyone pointing to those as the reason he loses to Trump in a general election...

 

well....

 

I agree with most of this.

 

Biden is who is at this point. I don't see him gaining anything but he probably won't lose support either.

 

Bernie looked OLD. Holy crap. He looked like my 85 year old grandfather. I think he starts to sink considerably. He and Warren are essentially running the same campaign, give or take, and I think this will begin to shift a large portion of his support to Warren. 

 

Warren did well. She's extremely smart and calculating. She never answers questions that will hurt her and is a master at answering just enough and spinning so that the moderators don't press her on the tough questions for her, like how she's going to pay for anything.

 

Beto definitely had his best debate. Very strong on guns but I don't think he offers enough other liberal substance to ever get the nomination. He could be viewed as an asset though as a vice pres, as I think head to head vs Pence he'd do pretty well if they can get him to stay on a couple topics. He'd also be an asset in Texas. 

 

Buttigieg has been solid. I think he'd do really well head to head with Trump.

 

Booker is too nice. I don't think he has the guts to go toe to toe with Trump. He's not willing to get dirty. 

 

Harris has faded badly since her first debate. Klobuchar offers nothing other than she's from the midwest. I don't see any electability on the national stage.

 

Yang has interesting ideas that will probably make a lot of sense in 20 years as the world becomes more and more automated and labour becomes less and less valuable. 

 

Castro went after Biden and I don't think it worked. He made a point questioning Joe's memory, but I don't think it helped him at all. If anything it smeared Biden but it wouldn't have helped Castro.  

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