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1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

Their CB stable is impressive.  Poyer and Hyde are a solid safety tandem and they could do a lot worse, but they can also do better.  Hopefully some of the younger guys start to make some noise there.

AND we have true quality depth @ CB & Nickel. Are we in good shape should we lose Hyde/Poyer for an extended time (God forbid)?

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7 minutes ago, Ramza86 said:

Get your pocketbook out...cause hes gonna cost us a pretty penny.

 

this is where a lot of teams fail in managing their cap.  look at how the pats roster is set up.  they pay the guys that are worth it and move on from guys that aren't.  nobody on their team you would say is overpaid.  too many teams hand out deals making guys the top paid just to keep the guys.  they get similar production out of lesser paid guys.  

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1 hour ago, The Jerk said:

He might be ranked number three but he's number 1 in cutting rugs, ya dig?

And a great hockey goalie coach too

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5 hours ago, HOUSE said:
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Tre’Davious White named third-best corner in NFL

In just two NFL seasons, Tre’Davious White has already established himself as one of the NFL’s best. The USA TODAY NFL Wire marked White as the third-best outside cornerback in the NFL. Here’s what Doug Farrar wrote about the LSU product.

Most young cornerbacks find themselves in a vicious learning curve when transitioning from college to the NFL—receivers are better and smarter, route concepts are far more complex, and coverages are more variable. White has proven the exception to the rule. He allowed a 48.1% catch rate and an opponent passer rating of 64.9 in his rookie season of 2017, and given equivalent opportunities in 2018, White showed that he doesn’t know what a sophomore slump looks like—he allowed 30 catches on 52 targets for just 357 yards, two touchdowns, two interceptions, and an opponent passer rating of 75.6.

 

 

https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-today-tre-davious-white-named-third-best-corner-in-nfl

This is great!! Keep working young fella!! What kills me is that they have Stephon Gilmore at 1.

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33 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

this is where a lot of teams fail in managing their cap.  look at how the pats roster is set up.  they pay the guys that are worth it and move on from guys that aren't.  nobody on their team you would say is overpaid.  too many teams hand out deals making guys the top paid just to keep the guys.  they get similar production out of lesser paid guys.  

 

The Patriots have a huge advantage, because Tom Brady gives them a discount at the QB position.

His contract pays him an average of $15 million per year, which ranks 19th in the NFL.

 

In addition, their offensive system is specifically designed to make the RB and WR positions expendable.

>  Instead of utilizing high-paid outside receivers like Antonio Brown, Odell Beckham and Julio Jones, the passing game depends on slot receivers and tight ends - which make considerably less money, can be found later in the draft and are more easily interchangeable.

>  Instead of utilizing a single stud running back, they go RBBC and play different guys each week depending on the gameplan.  They aren't locked-down with a huge Todd Gurley, LeVeon Bell type contract, and players (again) are easily replaceable.

 

And finally, the team's overall success and prominence makes players appear much better (and more attractive in free agency) than they really are.  Don't be surprised when Trent Brown flops outside of New England.  He was an average tackle, who happened to start for a Super Bowl winner.  No way he gets that massive contract if he's leaving a team like Arizona.  Meanwhile, the Patriots reap the benefits by getting a 3rd Round Supplemental for letting a mid-level guy walk.

 

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What concerns me re: when his contract is up is that McDermott and Beane come from a place that decided to let Josh Norman walk. Different players, but I think White is a guy for whom they should probably pony up.

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I love our secondary.

 

people worry about Wallace, and while he is an unknown, the kid has done nothing but succeed over the years. Also, Taron Johnson was a top 5 slot corner before getting hurt. If these guys take another step we will have the best secondary in the NFL. 

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Just don't let him leave to play goalie somewhere. :ph34r:

 

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4 hours ago, aristocrat said:

Comparing last years qb schedule to this years seems to be very favorable for this secondary. No nfc north qbs that sling it all over. Brady Ben Baker wentz dalton dak Manning. After the first few I’m not scared of the others. Could be a no fly zone 

 

I am more worried about Darnold than Dalton, Dak or Manning in terms throwing on us. 

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24 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

What happened to what’s his face from the saints?

 

Lattimore? Nothing. He is still really, really good. 

 

Personally I don't think White is top 3. I think he is top 10. And Lattimore and Marlon Humphrey who were in the same class are right there close to him. Think Lattimore slightly outplayed Tre in year 1 but Tre slightly outplayed Lattimore in year 2. Humphrey wasn't an every down starter as a rookie but was very, very good as a 2nd year player. And that is before we get into some of the other corners in that class later on. Some of us said it at the time but the 2017 draft had an unbelievable class of defensive backs. Those three corners I named above in particular will be the end of their rookie deals be the cream of the NFL. 

2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

AND we have true quality depth @ CB & Nickel. Are we in good shape should we lose Hyde/Poyer for an extended time (God forbid)?

 

I wonder if that happened if their first instinct would be to try EJ Gaines as a free safety. I am not sure with him you have the versatility to play with inter changing safeties as McDermott prefers but I think in Corey Graham style he could transition inside into a FS position pretty well. He has the skillset.  

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2 hours ago, the skycap said:

This is great!! Keep working young fella!! What kills me is that they have Stephon Gilmore at 1.

Could you imagine Gilmore and White paired together? I just hope this FO will pay White so we don't dump another 1st rd pick because he plays like one and warrants a contract. 

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7 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said:

Awesome, until contract time. That will be a huge amount of money. 

Trade

 

 

 

 

him

 

 

 

 

now

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17 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

Could you imagine Gilmore and White paired together? I just hope this FO will pay White so we don't dump another 1st rd pick because he plays like one and warrants a contract. 

 

I think they have to pay White. He was the first pick of this regime, they passed on two young QBs who look pretty darn good so far to move back and take him, and he has already played like a borderline elite player. If in that context they are not gonna pay a guy then when would you ever pay a guy? 

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Good to see him get his due.  I really like fuller, but I think the crown is there for the taking without Fangio running that D anymore.  Dude should’ve stayed a DC.  He has his work cut out for him in Denver 

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6 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Good to see him get his due.  I really like fuller, but I think the crown is there for the taking without Fangio running that D anymore.  Dude should’ve stayed a DC.  He has his work cut out for him in Denver 

 

I have White above Fuller. Think Fuller is a borderline top 10 guy. He had an excellent 2018 but that was the first year he played at a near elite level and he has been in the league 4 years. I find that the problem with a lot of these ranking type lists. People lurch violently from year to year because they make on the spot evaluations. You have to look body of work. 

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I am surprised that people outside of being a Bills fan have heard of Tre' White.

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53 minutes ago, njbuff said:

I am surprised that people outside of being a Bills fan have heard of Tre' White.

Like E.F. Hutton, when Kay Adams speaks, people ..um.. listen!

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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I have White above Fuller. Think Fuller is a borderline top 10 guy. He had an excellent 2018 but that was the first year he played at a near elite level and he has been in the league 4 years. I find that the problem with a lot of these ranking type lists. People lurch violently from year to year because they make on the spot evaluations. You have to look body of work. 

Agreed.  Those weren’t the names I expected to see but they had their best years last year.   Just didn’t think that would be enough to get them 1-2.  If I wasn’t a bills fan I would think that whites ascension to top 3 was premature.  Knowing what I know, he’s right where he deserves to be.

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1 minute ago, NewEra said:

Agreed.  Those weren’t the names I expected to see but they had their best years last year.   Just didn’t think that would be enough to get them 1-2.  If I wasn’t a bills fan I would think that whites ascension to top 3 was premature.  Knowing what I know, he’s right where he deserves to be.

 

I still think it is a bit high. To me there is a clear top 4 of elite guys who have performed at a consistently elite level year after year and whose play has yet to show any drop off: Patrick Peterson, Darius Slay, Casey Hayward, Chris Harris. 

 

I think White is in the next group with the two Jacksonville guys, Lattimore, Desmond Trufant and Gilmore. 

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Probably the right spot but Slay not Gilmore lol...Gilmore is good but not top 3. Below average in run support from day 1.

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49 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I still think it is a bit high. To me there is a clear top 4 of elite guys who have performed at a consistently elite level year after year and whose play has yet to show any drop off: Patrick Peterson, Darius Slay, Casey Hayward, Chris Harris. 

 

I think White is in the next group with the two Jacksonville guys, Lattimore, Desmond Trufant and Gilmore. 

Same, I’d also throw in Xavier Howard.  

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10 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Same, I’d also throw in Xavier Howard.  

 

Yea I have Howard just outside that 10. Again I thought he had an excellent 2018. 

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4 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

What concerns me re: when his contract is up is that McDermott and Beane come from a place that decided to let Josh Norman walk. Different players, but I think White is a guy for whom they should probably pony up.

I agree . I think White is just a better player than Norman was and allows so much flexibility in man coverage , Norman was known to be average in man but great in zone. White is great at both , will tackle and brings amazing energy to the team. He's a keeper

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3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think they have to pay White. He was the first pick of this regime, they passed on two young QBs who look pretty darn good so far to move back and take him, and he has already played like a borderline elite player. If in that context they are not gonna pay a guy then when would you ever pay a guy? 

I dont see any scenario where they dont pay White.

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