Deranged Rhino Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Tibs, your thread title is wrong... As is this whole process. I would think people would be less eager to trust proven liars and manipulators than we're seeing, but dummies gonna dumb. "The only bi-partisan vote on that floor, was against (impeachment)." McCarthy just now. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Tibs, your thread title is wrong... As is this whole process. I would think people would be less eager to trust proven liars and manipulators than we're seeing, but dummies gonna dumb. "The only bi-partisan vote on that floor, was against (impeachment)." McCarthy just now. Meh, it was a procedure vote. These guys should shut it at this time. This wasn't a vote to open an inquiry, that option doesn't exist. The inquiry is happening. This wasn't a vote to issue articles of impeachment. They should save these statement for later. It also doesn't look so great that Congress, the two major political parties, and the country are so divided down strict party lines and today's proceedings just highlighted that. And calling it "bipartisan" when TWO Democrats opposed is nonsense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 minute ago, snafu said: Meh, it was a procedure vote. These guys should shut it at this time. This wasn't a vote to open an inquiry, that option doesn't exist. The inquiry is happening. This wasn't a vote to issue articles of impeachment. They should save these statement for later. It also doesn't look so great that Congress, the two major political parties, and the country are so divided down strict party lines and today's proceedings just highlighted that. And calling it "bipartisan" when TWO Democrats opposed is nonsense. For three weeks the leaders on the left have been calling it bi partisan when they didn't get a single R vote. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 17 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Tibs, your thread title is wrong... Fact: Pelosi's inquiry is the first "presidential impeachment inquiry" to be authorized by anybody. That, alone, demonstrates how farcical this is. They're putting on show votes to authorize something that doesn't need to be authorized. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillsFanNC Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Quick to judgeQuick to angerSlow to understandIgnorance and prejudiceAnd fear walk hand in hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 All you need to know about this farce is that Adam Schiff has the right to prevent witnesses from testifying if they are subpoenaed by a Republican. One would think that the Republicans must be so far removed from reality that they might call John Dean to the stand. -) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 What goes around comes around Dems.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 28 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: And this is fundamentally dishonest, since it's the Senate that renders the verdict. White House is trying to cloud the issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: All you need to know about this farce is that Adam Schiff has the right to prevent witnesses from testifying if they are subpoenaed by a Republican. One would think that the Republicans Democrats must be so far removed from reality that they might call John Dean to the stand. -) FIFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 We have no candidate to seriously run for the Dems in 2020 so we will act this petulantly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, Foxx said: FIFY -) means tongue-in-cheek. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Does Tibs need to change the title of this thread to either: partisan support of impeachment or non-partisan opposition to impeachment i mean, the only bi-partisan support in today’s vote was the 2 democrats who crossed party lines and voted against the formal inquiry? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 41 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: lol looks like something like you would write - total BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Tibs, your thread title is wrong... As is this whole process. I would think people would be less eager to trust proven liars and manipulators than we're seeing, but dummies gonna dumb. "The only bi-partisan vote on that floor, was against (impeachment)." McCarthy just now. Hah. Beat me to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, DC Tom said: And this is fundamentally dishonest, since it's the Senate that renders the verdict. White House is trying to cloud the issue. I generally follow your logic but on this one I see no dishonesty. The Dems =all dems, including the aforementioned Enrica Pelosi and Schumer. Move through the house, to the Senate, dems want to render a verdict. It reads like a statement from a press secretary for a political party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: How in the world did his inquiry ‘hurt our election integrity’? Well, you see, conducting an inquiry into a Democrat who is running for office is interfering in an election. So sayeth those Democrats who are conducing an "inquiry" into the President running for office in order to interfere with the same election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I generally follow your logic but on this one I see no dishonesty. The Dems =all dems, including the aforementioned Enrica Pelosi and Schumer. Move through the house, to the Senate, dems want to render a verdict. It reads like a statement from a press secretary for a political party. The dems in the House can have a verdict and that verdict would be to pass the case on to the Senate for trial. The House verdict is called impeachment. The press secretary's letter was fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 19 minutes ago, dubs said: Does Tibs need to change the title of this thread to either: partisan support of impeachment or non-partisan opposition to impeachment i mean, the only bi-partisan support in today’s vote was the 2 democrats who crossed party lines and voted against the formal inquiry? How about "Nonunanimous Dem support for impeachment"? And screw it, have a mod change it for Tibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1189951422701260801 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 Oh look, every House Republican has failed to uphold their oath to defend the Constitution! Lawless pro Russian scum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Called it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 "This time we REALLY got him!" Those buying into this nonsense, especially on the heels of the Russia Collusion story being proven to be a fraud, deserve every bit of scorn they get. Anyone buying into this is demonstrating to the world they are not to be taken seriously. They're not independent thinkers, they are not even coherent thinkers -- they are sheep blindly following shepherds they KNOW are liars because they're too scared to step away from the flock. Those same liars and corrupt asshats in the media and entertainment complex who got Russia 100% wrong for three years have now convinced these unthinking people that doubting their word, even after their word has been proven to be bunk over and over again, is to side with a literal Nazi/Devil/Evil the world has never seen. Thus, they should shut up and follow along with the flock or they'll be publicly flogged for failing to abide by groupthink. And the sheep believe this -- because they've been beaten into submission. It's such a sad, sad, sad, place to be. The next 5 years is going to be exceptionally hard on these weak willed people. And they will have earned every thing that comes their way because of it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 10 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: ain't happening. the Senate however, is a different animal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 It won’t be hard, they will never have to show their hand (a total bust) and the media will let them string this out for another 5 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 The conspiracy nuts are running wild again 14 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: But the whistleblower has been proved 100% correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 "Conspiracy nuts" who got Russia/Trump correct three years in advance you mean? Or are you talking about yourself since you're still pushing a thrice proven false theory of Russian collusion? Those "conspiracy nuts" are out in force, I grant you. Because you've put partisanship above country and reason. ooooh, so close! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Rick Moran - “If you’re going to overturn the election of a president, you would think that you’d want a few brave souls from the opposition to at least give the appearance of bi-partisanship. Democrats are realizing that this simply isn’t going to happen and it calls into question the legitimacy of their entire inquiry… Democrats don’t think they’ll be hurt much by the partisan appearance of their inquiry. It will certainly please the hysterical, anti-Trump vote — the real power in the party. They don’t care what impeachment looks like, they just want it done. That may well be their undoing.” . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: Rick Moran - “If you’re going to overturn the election of a president, you would think that you’d want a few brave souls from the opposition to at least give the appearance of bi-partisanship. Democrats are realizing that this simply isn’t going to happen and it calls into question the legitimacy of their entire inquiry… Democrats don’t think they’ll be hurt much by the partisan appearance of their inquiry. It will certainly please the hysterical, anti-Trump vote — the real power in the party. They don’t care what impeachment looks like, they just want it done. That may well be their undoing.” . Because the Republicans cans don't go along it calls the legitimacy into question?? Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!! They have sworn to defend the Constitution and are not doing it. What they do or don't do is pretty much irrelevant to the key issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Schiff saying he has "no prejudgment of the facts" today is a laughable lie. He said it with a straight face at the podium today and not a single journo pushed back on him. That should tell you EVERYTHING. Schiff is anything but objective, everyone knows it. So why does anyone take him seriously? This is the same guy who promised, multiple times, that he had MORE than circumstantial evidence of Trump's TREASON with Russia... he lead most of the TDS addled brains who post down here astray for three years with promises that Mueller was coming. Schiff made all of you TDSers look foolish for three years. Trump didn't do that to you. Schiff did. Yet those same people keep believing him? Why? At what point does your own sense of self respect take over and you STOP listening to people on both sides of the aisle who have proven to NOT have your best interest at heart, or truth, or honor, or any American value we share... Ya'll deserve everything coming your way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 Democracy?? Now we are for democracy? But, but, but, I thought the cultists were screaming we are a republic?!? I guess republics being based on laws makes the cultists gun shy “Democrats are trying to impeach the president because they are scared they can’t defeat him at the ballot box,” House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) said on the floor before the vote, calling the opposing party’s approach a “disaster for democracy.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Trump’s First Impeachment Win The Atlantic ^ | October 31, 2019 | Russell Berman The House’s resolution should have been the easiest for Republicans to go along with. None of them did. So this is how the impeachment of President Donald Trump is going to go. The House this morning cast its first vote in a process that could lead to just the third Senate impeachment trial of a president in U.S. history. When Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced plans for the vote earlier this week, there was at least some promise of drama: Which House Democrats would defect? How many Republicans might defy Trump to back a formal impeachment inquiry that a few of them had signaled their support for? After all, this was a vote that Republicans and the White House had been demanding for weeks—an official resolution that took the ambiguity and the secrecy out of the closed-door process Democrats had been conducting, a means of forcing every lawmaker to go on record in support of or in opposition to the impeachment inquiry. Pelosi, who had resisted holding such a vote for more than a month, had given in. Yet when lawmakers gathered in the House chamber this morning, the actual tally turned out to be like so many others in Congress: party-line and partisan, a mere formality. Not a single House Republican voted with Democrats to affirm the impeachment. Not Representative Mark Amodei of Nevada, who had briefly backed the inquiry in the early going. Or Representative Will Hurd of Texas, the ex-CIA officer who earlier this month called Trump’s demand that Ukraine investigate former Vice President Joe Biden “terrible.” Or even Representative Francis Rooney of Florida, who had voiced his openness to impeachment and then promptly announced his retirement from Congress. (Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ... . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 That's an understatement 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) Edited October 31, 2019 by Hedge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Schiff needs to be arrested for defamation and slander of Trump, Schiff is a really horrible person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 If Trump wins re-election in 2020, people will stand around in 2024 and look at the Dems and have an eight-year roadmap to the party's flow into irrelevance. Trying to tie Trump to something they did is literally ALL they do now. They actually do nothing else. They get up, they try to pin their actions on Trump, they go to bed, then get up and do it again. They literally are doing NOTHING for a damn person. And when I say 'literally,' I don't mean Joe Biden's interpretation of the word 'literally.' I literally mean literally. What a schittshow. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: If Trump wins re-election in 2020, people will stand around in 2024 and look at the Dems and have an eight-year roadmap to the party's flow into irrelevance. Trying to tie Trump to something they did is literally ALL they do now. They actually do nothing else. They get up, they try to pin their actions on Trump, they go to bed, then get up and do it again. They literally are doing NOTHING for a damn person. And when I say 'literally,' I don't mean Joe Biden's interpretation of the word 'literally.' I literally mean literally. What a schittshow. Dream on! You guys got this piece of garbage over the goal line once with Russian help, not going to happen again. I mean seriously, what’s he going to run on? Infrastructure? Health care? Tax cuts? Tariff wars? Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 15 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Dream on! You guys got this piece of garbage over the goal line once with Russian help, not going to happen again. I mean seriously, what’s he going to run on? Infrastructure? Health care? Tax cuts? Tariff wars? Nope He'll win because he is not a braying moron going on about issues that most do not care about. The Russians will attempt to aid Comrade Clinton when she finally announces her entry and you will be one of many minions to help push her into oblivion despite your desire to do otherwise. Your incompetence and those like you will be her downfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Meanwhile, the infrastructure across our land needs a major upgrade, but who cares about that. Impeaching a President 63 million people voted for is more important. I said the same thing when they did this to Clinton, even though there was way more evidence back then against Clinton than there is against Trump now, and I ended up despising Republicans for it. Anyways, I didn’t like it then and I don’t like it now. Is this going to be the new norm in this country, impeaching a President because you don’t like him? Pass a fvcking bill instead of worrying about impeachment. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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