DC Tom Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 7 hours ago, Tiberius said: So you are ok with selling out our sovereignty because the Dems did it first (in you imagination) You are talking about China and Bill Clinton here, right? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 This should be the President's attitude towards this impeachment nonsense. I came across this old clip and I almost died laughing watching this. If the President acted like this............ the impeachment crap would be over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 6 hours ago, njbuff said: This should be the President's attitude towards this impeachment nonsense. I came across this old clip and I almost died laughing watching this. If the President acted like this............ the impeachment crap would be over. So... he should hit Pelosi with a cane and use a steel chair to break Schiff's leg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 30 minutes ago, Koko78 said: So... he should hit Pelosi with a cane and use a steel chair to break Schiff's leg? You say that like it would be a bad thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 29 minutes ago, Koko78 said: So... he should hit Pelosi with a cane and use a steel chair to break Schiff's leg? That would be funny as hell. ? But I only meant the way he speaks and his attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 37 minutes ago, Koko78 said: So... he should hit Pelosi with a cane and use a steel chair to break Schiff's leg? I'd buy that PPV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 18 hours ago, Doc said: If it's good enough for the Dems... ...whoa....but, but Biden said "it ain't so"......."Bo Knows"...."Joe Knows"...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 ROGER SIMON: Dems’ Impeachment Charade a Disaster for Them, Not the American People. Meanwhile, if you watched Trump in Tupelo Friday night, you know the people are with him, just as they were in Dallas and Minneapolis a week or two back. No one ever has had a grass roots response like that. And power, as we used to say back in the day, belongs to the people. The deep state — the instigators of all this, from the fake Russia probe though Kavanaugh and now the risible Ukraine nonsense–made a big mistake in their approach. (And considering they’re in a large part CIA, that’s worrying.) It would have been smarter psychologically to have embraced Trump from the start, rather than try to subvert him. He’s certainly favorably disposed to praise. Then they could have coopted him. But they bollicked up the entire thing and alienated a huge swath of the republic in the process. After 2020, more of the deep staters will be gone. — and they know it (hence the panic). Good for us. Keep up the fight. And, as you know, never give up. Pessimism is a self-fulfilling prophecy. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deranged Rhino Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) Edited November 3, 2019 by Deranged Rhino 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 On 11/1/2019 at 2:08 PM, Doc said: What was sold out? Brains when Tibs went to the brain store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 I like the new tact the left and the moron media is starting to take: Republicans can't argue process anymore, Trump should step up now and help them by confessing like Bill Clinton did. Hilarious, just comedy gold. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 When does the House break for a long vacation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 hour ago, row_33 said: When does the House break for a long vacation? January 1, 2019. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, row_33 said: When does the House break for a long vacation? "District Work Week" means vacation. Look up "House of Representative Calendar". Edited November 3, 2019 by 3rdnlng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 7 hours ago, row_33 said: When does the House break for a long vacation? They don't....they're all standing in a basement hallway trying to hear what's happening inside the inquisition....I mean impeachment hearings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Doctored and missing pages notwithstanding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Question for any that would like to weigh in. In your opinion have democrat pols simply adopted a win at all cost stance since 2016, or are they being more aggressive because it's Trump an outsider? Let's say Romney was the republican nominee in 2016. Would Obama have spied on his campaign as well? If Romney had been elected would the same unhinged effort to destroy his presidency ensued or would we see more civil behavior by the left now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Question for any that would like to weigh in. In your opinion have democrat pols simply adopted a win at all cost stance since 2016, or are they being more aggressive because it's Trump an outsider? Let's say Romney was the republican nominee in 2016. Would Obama have spied on his campaign as well? If Romney had been elected would the same unhinged effort to destroy his presidency ensued or would we see more civil behavior by the left now? They have promised their base impeachment since the day President Trump was inaugurated. Once they won the House, their base expected results! They gave them lip service and fund-raised off it, while the polls (haha) showed it was a loser for them with the independents. Welp, now the next OIG report has been circulated in some areas (like to the people who get the opportunity to "make corrections") and it is (probably) worse than they imagined! So what do they do?? Well, make it appear they are going to impeach President Trump. The ultimate distraction that the press will carry their water for! A win-win. Until it is a lose-lose. Will they actually impeach him? I give odds at 50-50 right now. As little as three months ago I'd have said nope, but the Democrats seem to be on the Thelma and Louise route and showing few signs of slowing down going over that cliff. The problem with impeaching him is it goes to the (Republican) Senate, which can hold an open trial bringing the "charges" into the open. Also, (supposedly) when Senators are involved in an Impeachment Trial, they cannot campaign for higher office. If this is true, that means Bernie, Lizzie, Kamala, etc cannot be on the campaign train screaming #OrangeManBad while nothing would be stopping Donny-Two-Scoops from holding rally after rally, speech after speech, and campaigning and fund-raising off the Impeachment-nonsense (Biden could too, but they are trying to limit Joey-B's public appearances as he slowly disintegrates before our eyes). However this plays out in Congress, President Trump will not be convicted. Then the question of backlash comes into play. And who knows if the Ds hold the House after that (19 D seats need to flip R). The Democrats are ***** any which way you look at it. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. They just need to figure out what/who they are sacrificing impeaching or not impeaching, and make their play from there. Edited November 4, 2019 by Buffalo_Gal 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, keepthefaith said: Question for any that would like to weigh in. In your opinion have democrat pols simply adopted a win at all cost stance since 2016, or are they being more aggressive because it's Trump an outsider? Let's say Romney was the republican nominee in 2016. Would Obama have spied on his campaign as well? If Romney had been elected would the same unhinged effort to destroy his presidency ensued or would we see more civil behavior by the left now? IMO the "win at all costs" mentality on display at present is entirely because Trump is an outsider, and thus a threat to not only the dems but the GOP establishment as well. Had an insider/establishment pick won (Jeb, Mittens, Rubio), it would have been a very different 2017 to present. There would be no talk of impeachment, just the usual one sided mud slinging against "dumb ol' Jeb/racist Mitt" by the entertainment complex. They'd try to HW Bush the winner, keep them to a one term administration, but because the administration would be establishment (and thus playing by the establishment's rules which are tilted against the right to begin with), the dems wouldn't need the impeachment gambit to keep him in check.They would know Jeb or Mitt would not be threatening to expose them, or threaten their bank accounts by targeting trafficking rings of all kinds and resisting expanding our state of perma-war, because exposing them would mean exposing themselves in the process. But, I don't think an establishment pick on the other side would have ever made it through the general had Trump not gotten the nomination. They would have taken a fall, either willingly or unwillingly, because of your next question: Would 44 have spied on their campaigns anyway? Yes. 44 was spying on all the campaigns in 2016 already, not just Trump's. He was spying on establishment picks like Cruz and Rubio as an example, not to mention Bernie and others on their own side. 44's desire was to cement his legacy through HRC's administration, and he was willing to flagrantly flout the constitution while attempting to do so. While a GOPer from the establishment winning the election wouldn't jeopardize his legacy in the ways Trump's administration has, it would still be the second favored outcome for 44. Thus, I suspect, they would have used their spying to gin up an October Surprise that would have knocked whoever was in the lead out (that was the intent of leaking the FBI CI investigation into Trump to the Times in October, not to mention the Access Hollywood tape). Imagine the dirt they could have sprung about Mitt or Jeb from unlimited surveillance... it would have been something sexual, something disturbing, and it would have detonated the GOP right before the general. That was the plan. They tried it with Trump but forgot he's the Honey Badger. An establishment candidate would not have had that level of Honey Badger in him, and would have folded under that pressure -- desperate to keep their standing in the legacy/establishment media so they could make a killing on speeches and appearances on cable news in the future. And HRC would have won... ... And we'd be in two new wars at least at this point, with a tanked stock market and depressed economy. Edited November 4, 2019 by Deranged Rhino 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Gary Busey said: Oh no, the left finally has him *THIS* time! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Suppose they gave an impeachment and nobody cared? by Don Surber Original Article Official Washington is obsessed with impeaching President Donald John Trump and has been for three years. But in covering the presidential race in Iowa, Edward-Isaac Dovere of The Atlantic found even hardcore Democrats in America could not care less. He wrote, "The impeachment fight is all-consuming. It’s the biggest story in politics. No one is talking about anything else — except pretty much everywhere outside of Washington." The politicians act accordingly. He wrote, "Yet of the 13 candidates there, just one mentioned impeachment: Tom Steyer, the billionaire activist whose political group and TV ads over the past two years have helped mainstream the idea of removing the president. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 On 10/21/2019 at 11:08 AM, Koko78 said: I'm sure the one-sided secret hearings behind closed doors will clear it up for us though. wah wah wah two scoops wah wah wah IT'S A SECRET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 'Meet the Press' Asks What Voters Really Think of Impeachment. The Responses Don't Bode Well For Dems. by Leah Barkoukis Original Article “Meet the Press” ventured outside the beltway to ask voters in early primary states what they thought about Democrats’ impeachment push—and the Left is not going to like what they had to say. "We went out and tried to find some voters to talk about impeachment. We had to bring it up to them, here’s what they told us," host Chuck Todd said before playing the video. "I think it's a waste of time," said Minnesota voter Jim Baird. "You have a bunch of kids fighting and not accomplishing what they are elected for." . 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) damn, busy day with the transcripts being released. figures, i am swamped. #sucks Edited November 4, 2019 by Foxx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Just now, Foxx said: damn, busy day with the transcripts being released. figures i am busy. #sucks Same. Its the order of the release that’s damning. If this were about transparency, they’d be released in order. But this isn’t about transparency, it’s about a frame up. Thus, selective leaks followed by a slow roll out of depos (with the most damning first and the exculpatory ones well after the media has had time to make the first ones stick). Its always been a coup. Still is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Same. Its the order of the release that’s damning. If this were about transparency, they’d be released in order. But this isn’t about transparency, it’s about a frame up. Thus, selective leaks followed by a slow roll out of depos (with the most damning first and the exculpatory ones well after the media has had time to make the first ones stick). Its always been a coup. Still is. well, just looking at it from a vantage point. it makes sense to release the damaging ones first. i haven't had a chance to see how damaging they are yet (getting ready to look around now...), but if it is all feelings *****, then we know the rest of them won't amount to squat. i heard on the radio in a 'news break' that, whats her name, Voyanovch said that she was told if she made a tweet that praised Trump, she could keep her job. not the best face but again, if that's all they got, this is a giant nothing burger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1191398130102743040 Edited November 4, 2019 by Foxx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1191329758602309632 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 https://twitter.com/almostjingo/status/1191470631990087680 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Koko78 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Foxx said: well, just looking at it from a vantage point. it makes sense to release the damaging ones first. Absolutely. In a month or so, after the media has established the proper narrative, Schiff's staff will quietly release the exculpatory transcripts in a Friday night document dump that will not be mentioned by the media. Standard operating procedure. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Absolutely. In a month or so, after the media has established the proper narrative, Schiff's staff will quietly release the exculpatory transcripts in a Friday night document dump that will not be mentioned by the media. Standard operating procedure. Like how a couple years after Clinton's impeachment, Starr released the report that there was nothing wrong with Whitewater. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 ‘Nation’s leading impeachment lawyer’ Ross Garber says Pelosi, Schiff’s impeachment process a path to disaster for them https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/11/04/nations-leading-impeachment-lawyer-ross-garber-says-pelosi-schiffs-impeachment-process-a-path-to-disaster-for-them/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoCal Deek Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 20 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I love them! Do not back down to this nonsense. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) Time for another thread title change. ? · Brutal impeachment numbers for Democrats in new Monmouth poll: 73% have little/no trust in process, 60% say Dems are more interested in destroying Trump than finding facts, 51% oppose impeachment, only 37% say Trump's actions are clear grounds for impeachment. https://realclearpolitics.com/docs/2019/MonmouthPoll_US_110519. Independents oppose impeachment, swing state voters hate it, and opposition in the House was bipartisan (while Democrats couldn't get a single Republican to vote for it). All in all, impeachment is turning into a political disaster for Democrats. time for another thread title change trim Edited November 5, 2019 by B-Man 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 30 minutes ago, B-Man said: All in all, impeachment is turning into a political disaster for Democrats.time for another thread title change tri It's like no one on the left saw this coming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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