Buffalo_Gal Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 So, he testifies to one thing, the "transcripts" gets released and he has an "oopsie" moment and goes back and changes his testimony. Link to article. A key witness in the House impeachment inquiry has changed his testimony to reveal that he told a ranking Ukrainian official that the country probably would not get nearly $400 million in US military aid unless it announced investigations that President Trump wanted. In the updated testimony, Gordon Sondland, the US ambassador to the European Union — and one of the “three amigos” running Trump’s Ukraine policy — said he had discussed the request with Andriy Yermak, a top adviser to President Volodymyr Zelensky at a Sept. 1 meeting between Vice President Pence and Zelensky in Warsaw. Zelensky had also discussed the aid with Pence, Sondland said. “I said that resumption of the US aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anti-corruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks,” Sondland said in the document. </snip> 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: So, he testifies to one thing, the "transcripts" gets released and he has an "oopsie" moment and goes back and changes his testimony. Link to article. A key witness in the House impeachment inquiry has changed his testimony to reveal that he told a ranking Ukrainian official that the country probably would not get nearly $400 million in US military aid unless it announced investigations that President Trump wanted. In the updated testimony, Gordon Sondland, the US ambassador to the European Union — and one of the “three amigos” running Trump’s Ukraine policy — said he had discussed the request with Andriy Yermak, a top adviser to President Volodymyr Zelensky at a Sept. 1 meeting between Vice President Pence and Zelensky in Warsaw. Zelensky had also discussed the aid with Pence, Sondland said. “I said that resumption of the US aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anti-corruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks,” Sondland said in the document. </snip> "updated testimony" I'm calling bull^%$&, pardon my french. This is exactly what Trump says it is, a lynch mob. Edited November 5, 2019 by Albwan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Even if the Trump administration told Ukraine that they weren't getting any money until they showed a commitment to getting rid of corruption they were fine, but they didn't even do that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Thread (and a thread inside a thread) worth checking out: *********************** 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Crumbling: Yet Another Poll on Impeachment Inquiry Raises Serious Red Flags About Schiff’s Show Trial Charade Democrats might be under the impression that a majority of voters are on their side when it comes to impeaching President Trump, but a new poll indicates that what support they do have is starting to crumble. Morning Consult reports: https://www.redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2019/11/06/crumbling-yet-another-poll-impeachment-inquiry-raises-serious-red-flags-schiffs-show-trial-charade/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 46 minutes ago, B-Man said: Crumbling: Yet Another Poll on Impeachment Inquiry Raises Serious Red Flags About Schiff’s Show Trial Charade Democrats might be under the impression that a majority of voters are on their side when it comes to impeaching President Trump, but a new poll indicates that what support they do have is starting to crumble. Morning Consult reports: https://www.redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2019/11/06/crumbling-yet-another-poll-impeachment-inquiry-raises-serious-red-flags-schiffs-show-trial-charade/ Pelosi & Schiff have nothing on Trump but they are raising expectations by continuing on with this farce. Their rules seem designed to give him an unfair impeachment hearing. I say let it happen and get to a trial in the Senate. Do not even request a dismissal. Have the trial and get all of the witnesses to testify. When the public sees what Pelosi, Schiff & Company tried to pull off there will be a lot of embarrassed dems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Foxx Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/1192182330829475841 why did they revoke the subpoena? are they afraid that the court would say the impeachment process is flawed and side with the Trump administration? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo_Gal Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: https://mobile.twitter.com/C_3C_3/status/1192202547743866884 Of course he wasn't... SMH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 Flailing LIVE UPDATES Trump lashes out at lawyer for whistleblower The president called for an immediate end to the impeachment inquiry. By John Wagner 24 minutes ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 getting impatient over here when are they going to preempt all the major network programming all day long for months on end to carry this Hearing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 38 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Spectacular and she's earned a large helping of disrespect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 This is what it's about... Who thinks Swalwell is right? A president has every right to fire or hire any ambassador he wishes. He gets to set foreign policy, not the unelected bureaucrats who protect serial pedophiles in their spare time. @Bob in Mich and @Gary Busey think this guy is a champion for truth and reason. That says all you need to know about these asshats. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: This is what it's about... Who thinks Swalwell is right? A president has every right to fire or hire any ambassador he wishes. He gets to set foreign policy, not the unelected bureaucrats who protect serial pedophiles in their spare time. @Bob in Mich and @Gary Busey think this guy is a champion for truth and reason. That says all you need to know about these asshats. For political reasons, I.e. She wasn't helping Trump cheat on the 2020 election, Swallwell is so obviously correct, I mean Duh! 2 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: Yup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 He's not, Tibs. POTUS can fire an ambassador for any reason they wish. Including political ones. They work for him, not the other way around. Swalwell has weapons grade idiocy. Be better than Swalwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Dems are going Simple Jack. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Doc said: Dems are going Simple Jack. A Swalwell/Simple Jack meme would be hilarious -- too bad I suck at making them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: A Swalwell/Simple Jack meme would be hilarious -- too bad I suck at making them. The right can't meme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Adam Schiff Calls His First Public Witnesses and It Tells Us Everything Public hearings are finally about to begin in Adam Schiff’s “impeachment inquiry” and he’s called his first three witnesses. Who he’s choosing to march out first tells you everything about the game the Democrats are trying to play. The names? Bill Taylor, Marie Yovanovitch, and George Kent. The problem? Not a single one of these “witnesses” had any direct line to Donald Trump at all. None of them received any order from the President to do anything, by their own admission. Further, nothing in their previous testimony pointed to them having any secondary knowledge of an improper quid pro quo involving Joe Biden. What these witnesses do provide is political fodder. Take Bill Taylor. Despite admitting the only evidence he had for his impressions was an article in The New York Times, he testified that he felt an improper quid pro quo was taking place. In reality, he had nothing to support that except his own gut feeling and he admits that plainly. That’s fine if he wants to go write an opinion piece for some liberal rag. It’s not dispositive of anything in an impeachment case. Former Amb. Marie Yovanovitch is another witness big on flash but low on relevancy. Her only use to Schiff is to proclaim she felt targeted by Trump and that he wanted her out of her position (something well within his power). In her past testimony, she says she had no knowledge of any quid pro quo arrangement, so what is she going to actually add of value? The answer is nothing. As for George Kent, his contribution is to claim he was sidelined from policy altogether, which is apparently impeachable because bureaucrats run the country or something. And that’s really what this continues to boil down to, which is a bunch of bureaucrats mad that Donald Trump actually gets to make his own foreign policy and isn’t subservient to the established order within these agencies. More at the link https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/11/06/adam-schiff-calls-first-public-witnesses-tells-us-everything/ 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 "But it's about defending the constitution!" False. It's about power. Trump has it, they want it. Period. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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row_33 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 is this like seriously happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Foxx Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 33 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: omfg! it's Schifty goddamned trial and unless you play by his rules you will not get to play with his ball. what a absolute, complete clown show this has become. the R's should really start to adopt a different approach here. they should simply ignore what the Donner's are doing in their star chamber. let them do whatever the ***** hell they want because they are going to do it anyways. let them show the people what they are and when the articles of impeachment are referred to the Senate, then we can have a real trial and show the American public just how dubious these ***** are. can you imagine House impeachment proceedings with no R's. you might say that that would not be a good thing. my contention would be that the ***** show would be short because they would wrap things up rather fast then we could get to actual truth that much quicker and hang the traitors. and i do mean hang the traitors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: A Swalwell/Simple Jack meme would be hilarious -- too bad I suck at making them. Never go full Swallwell. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deranged Rhino Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Next week is going to be ugly. Mueller's performance type of ugly. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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