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1 minute ago, Rockpile233 said:

Let’s tease this Snoke character, get people talking, and then kill him off before even developing it enough for the audience to care.

 

Cheap shock and awe at its’ finest.

 

This is the one thing I hated the most.  Might as well had him slip on a banana peel and die.

 

I really did not like The Last Jedi for all the reasons hashed about many-a-time.  And I am not a hyper-critical star wars nerd or anything.  In fact, I have defended the prequel trilogy in the past and I did not hate them.

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5 minutes ago, Rockpile233 said:

Let’s tease this Snoke character, get people talking, and then kill him off before even developing it enough for the audience to care.

 

Cheap shock and awe at its’ finest.

That is such a disappointing character and one of many low-lights in The Last Jedi 

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2 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

 

This is the one thing I hated the most.  Might as well had him slip on a banana peel and die.

 

I really did not like The Last Jedi for all the reasons hashed about many-a-time.  And I am not a hyper-critical star wars nerd or anything.  In fact, I have defended the prequel trilogy in the past and I did not hate them.

Agree. I am not a super fan, just thought this was poorly developed after a pretty decent (although a little too safe) episode VII.

 

I’ll still eventually see episode IX, just not as excited for new Star Wars movies anymore.

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12 minutes ago, eball said:

 

 

 

You guys are cracking me up.  I thought Hux was laughable in VII with the ridiculous overacting and all too easy Hitler comparison.

 

I've always liked that the Star Wars franchise (III-VI) combined a dramatic storyline with lighthearted moments.  I don't see that the trend has changed all that much.

Your argument is that the light-hearted moments were executed well. You're saying the tone was consistent with the rest of the series.

 

That cracks me up. ?

 

Honestly, I'm not hard to please and went into ep. VIII with no preconceived notions. That prank call scene made me cringe right away and the movie just got worse after that. It had it's moments, though. 

 

People like to get all high-and-mighty with their defence of ep. VIII, but just offer up weak straw man arguments. It ruins a good conversation.

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1 hour ago, eball said:

 

 

 

You guys are cracking me up.  I thought Hux was laughable in VII with the ridiculous overacting and all too easy Hitler comparison.

 

 

That guy just comes off as odd casting to me.  If they were going for a "completely non-threatening bookwoom" look with the role, they nailed it.  Maybe Fran Moff Tarkinton had that feel too back in the day, I don't know.  At least with his age, he looked like he had actually been there before.

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8 minutes ago, shrader said:

 

That guy just comes off as odd casting to me.  If they were going for a "completely non-threatening bookwoom" look with the role, they nailed it.  Maybe Fran Moff Tarkinton had that feel too back in the day, I don't know.  At least with his age, he looked like he had actually been there before.

Kylo is kind of the same way. Both have been like a mirror image of each other, the Empire and the Sith. Young guns who are still kind of boyish and certainly wet behind the ears, trying to take control. Neither is the all-around leader that Palpatine or Snoke were. They're each just one half of that leading figure.

 

Kylo has always been a fake, wearing a mask he doesn't even need. Just trying to be like his uncle. There's still good in him. I'm pretty sure he'll turn to the light side or whatever they're calling the light side now....

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1 hour ago, TBBills Fan said:

the real question is, did the original Death Star have contractors on there, just trying to do a job and feed their family?  And if so what is the implication!

 

Absolutely. Caught in the crossfire. The casualties of war. Kill a few to save many.

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1 hour ago, TBBills Fan said:

the real question is, did the original Death Star have contractors on there, just trying to do a job and feed their family?  And if so what is the implication!

 

Did it ever get mentioned in Rogue One? It had Architects who designed it.....

Ot had to have workers to build it, was that the original role of the Stormtroopers?

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1 hour ago, TBBills Fan said:

the real question is, did the original Death Star have contractors on there, just trying to do a job and feed their family?  And if so what is the implication!

 

 

12 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:

Did it ever get mentioned in Rogue One? It had Architects who designed it.....

Ot had to have workers to build it, was that the original role of the Stormtroopers?

 

The Death Star was built by a combination of professional engineers & architects handling the technical details and conscripted/corvee labor doing the grunt work

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3 hours ago, TBBills Fan said:

the real question is, did the original Death Star have contractors on there, just trying to do a job and feed their family?  And if so what is the implication!

 

 

 

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42 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

uhhh  Does RED = bad?  

 

Or a "teaser" making you think she went bad?  

 

This can't be the final chapter if she turns evil.    

 

Might be a vision/dream.

 

Red does equal bad, but Rey represents the convergence of light and dark, the end of "Jedi" and "Sith", the grey.

 

I think she kills Kylo and she makes a new light saber. For force users, making your own saber means you've reached the peak of your abilities.

 

Some are speculating that there's a significant time jump in this film; 10-15 years. The other two series had time jumps, but this one hasn't yet.

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31 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Might be a vision/dream.

 

Red does equal bad, but Rey represents the convergence of light and dark, the end of "Jedi" and "Sith", the grey.

 

I think she kills Kylo and she makes a new light saber. For force users, making your own saber means you've reached the peak of your abilities.

 

Some are speculating that there's a significant time jump in this film; 10-15 years. The other two series had time jumps, but this one hasn't yet.

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and or a training outfit / light saber

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1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:

Might be a vision/dream.

 

Red does equal bad, but Rey represents the convergence of light and dark, the end of "Jedi" and "Sith", the grey.

 

I think she kills Kylo and she makes a new light saber. For force users, making your own saber means you've reached the peak of your abilities.

 

Some are speculating that there's a significant time jump in this film; 10-15 years. The other two series had time jumps, but this one hasn't yet.

 

Or she’s a clone. 

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7 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

uhhh  Does RED = bad? 

 

IIRC natural light sabre crystals give a blue or green color (unless you're samuel l jackson).  the jedi controlled to crystal mines so the sith had to synthesize their own crystals, which had a red hue

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11 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

Might be a vision/dream.

 

Red does equal bad, but Rey represents the convergence of light and dark, the end of "Jedi" and "Sith", the grey.

 

I think she kills Kylo and she makes a new light saber. For force users, making your own saber means you've reached the peak of your abilities.

 

Some are speculating that there's a significant time jump in this film; 10-15 years. The other two series had time jumps, but this one hasn't yet.

 

I think you might just be a Star Wars nerd..... not that there is anything wrong with that :D 

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On 8/26/2019 at 6:15 AM, ShadyBillsFan said:

uhhh  Does RED = bad?  

 

Or a "teaser" making you think she went bad?  

 

This can't be the final chapter if she turns evil.    

 

I had brought up the thought of what if Rey turns to the dark side, to my friends before.

 

Who knows? I'm ready for this.

 

I also do not believe that this will be the "End" of this story. I think they will just give it a break, move on to other projects, then come back to it. 

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On 8/26/2019 at 10:02 AM, LeGOATski said:

Might be a vision/dream.

 

Red does equal bad, but Rey represents the convergence of light and dark, the end of "Jedi" and "Sith", the grey.

 

I think she kills Kylo and she makes a new light saber. For force users, making your own saber means you've reached the peak of your abilities.

 

Some are speculating that there's a significant time jump in this film; 10-15 years. The other two series had time jumps, but this one hasn't yet.

 

She already made her own saber--the white/blue one she has in the first trailer.  The one she was using was destroyed at the end of Episode 8.

 

And yes, I think there will be some type of time jump.

 

23 hours ago, /dev/null said:

 

IIRC natural light sabre crystals give a blue or green color (unless you're samuel l jackson).  the jedi controlled to crystal mines so the sith had to synthesize their own crystals, which had a red hue

 

Not that the canon really matters anymore, but kyber crystals can supposedly be any color.  In some of the book lore, the color of a saber corresponded to the "mission" of the Jedi:

Blue for guardians

Green for counselors

Yellow for scholars

Purple for those who'd experienced moral uncertainty from being tempted by the dark side

 

 

And I still want to know where Anakin comes in

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1 hour ago, thebandit27 said:

Not that the canon really matters anymore, but kyber crystals can supposedly be any color.  In some of the book lore, the color of a saber corresponded to the "mission" of the Jedi:

Blue for guardians

Green for counselors

Yellow for scholars

Purple for those who'd experienced moral uncertainty from being tempted by the dark side

 

And then there's the SWTOR universe in which your color crystal is only dependent upon which option you select after giving EA money

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8 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

I had brought up the thought of what if Rey turns to the dark side, to my friends before.

 

Who knows? I'm ready for this.

 

I also do not believe that this will be the "End" of this story. I think they will just give it a break, move on to other projects, then come back to it. 

Well they claim that this is it for the 'Skywalker Trilogy' series and everything else will be new stuff from other parts of the galaxy.....

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Someone has some splainin to do 

 

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/08/28/dark-reys-double-bladed-red-lightsaber-explained-from-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker?amp=1

 

 

This lightsaber can be seen as having great symbolic significance to Rey’s character. As we saw in The Last Jedi, Rey is conflicted about her identity. She desires to see her family again but the Force cave shows her nothing but a reflection of herself. Rey is forced to look inward and stare at herself in the mirror, literally and figuratively, to know who she truly is. This act of introspection couldn’t be better represented than with a dual-bladed lightsaber, because as she comes to understand and accept herself, the two sides become one. The staff-like quality of the weapon represents Rey’s past, and the crimson blades represent her future as a Force user. Just like the two parallel blades extend to become a single weapon, so too do those elements merge to create who Rey has chosen to be.

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On 8/27/2019 at 3:53 PM, Mark Vader said:

I had brought up the thought of what if Rey turns to the dark side, to my friends before.

 

Who knows? I'm ready for this.

 

I also do not believe that this will be the "End" of this story. I think they will just give it a break, move on to other projects, then come back to it. 

I don't think you have to worry about that. There's no chance that Disney makes their heroine evil. At best you might get her "going bad" very briefly to undermine the First Order from the other side or something.

 

More likely IMO, this is just a vision seen through the eyes of Kylo or a test for herself similar to when Luke saw himself as Vader.

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2 hours ago, GG said:

 From the worst acting school in history?

 

It does make me wonder though.  If you you were forced to permanently wear a mask, but it gave you the voice of James Earl Jones, would you do it?

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