RPbillsfan Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 With so many lineman signed just wondering what everyone thinks will make the final 53 as I believe the draft will be defensive orientated. Here's my line: Starters: LT - Dawkins LG - Long C - Morse RG - Feliciano RT - Nesheke Depth T - Waddell C - Bodine G - Teller Your thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) I think I wanna see Teller on the practice squad Edited March 24, 2019 by JaCrispy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 The oline is fluid Beane still has more in store for us 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I think I wanna see Teller on the practice squad ...agree 'Crispy....no need to rush him.......needs more work to develop........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPbillsfan Posted March 24, 2019 Author Share Posted March 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...agree 'Crispy....no need to rush him.......needs more work to develop........... I'd like to see them add Spann, then Teller could be moved to practice squad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said: With so many lineman signed just wondering what everyone thinks will make the final 53 as I believe the draft will be defensive orientated. Here's my line: Starters: LT - Dawkins LG - Long C - Morse RG - Feliciano RT - Nesheke Depth T - Waddell C - Bodine G - Teller Your thoughts May have a rookie in the mix also. They may very well draft OL, don't know how early but we will have a better idea after the draft of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said: I'd like to see them add Spann, then Teller could be moved to practice squad. ...think perhaps you meant Spain......here's what I posted in another thread about him...eerily all quiet on the Spain front............ .can't find where else he has visited.......wonder how accurate this PFF assessment is and whether it is an impediment...... .."After earning a career-high 84.2 overall grade in 2016, Tennessee Titans guard Quinton Spain has struggled to return to such form. His run-blocking grade has fallen from 80.8 in 2016 to 57.3 in 2018. "...."Spain’s pass-blocking grade has been 75.6 or higher all four years of his career; it’s his run blocking that has been up and down. He needs to get back to where he was in 2016 as a run blocker to blossom in the NFL again."... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 19 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said: With so many lineman signed just wondering what everyone thinks will make the final 53 as I believe the draft will be defensive orientated. Here's my line: Starters: LT - Dawkins LG - Long C - Morse RG - Feliciano RT - Nesheke Depth T - Waddell C - Bodine G - Teller Your thoughts Morse is a definite upgrade. After that, who really knows. Even if Dawkins progresses and the other 3 spots are true upgrades, it's going to be awhile before they gel as a unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 It’s still March... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 25 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said: With so many lineman signed just wondering what everyone thinks will make the final 53 as I believe the draft will be defensive orientated. Here's my line: Starters: LT - Dawkins LG - Long C - Morse RG - Feliciano RT - Nesheke Depth T - Waddell C - Bodine G - Teller Your thoughts From what I've read, and heard about Nsekhe, if he doesn't make the left side, he won't be a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 35 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I think I wanna see Teller on the practice squad Teller would get picked up as soon as he hit the waiver wire. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) LT- Nsekhe LG- Spain C- Morse RG- Dawkins RT- Waddle Depth: Feliciano Bodine Long Hot take on Dawkins, I know. Edited March 24, 2019 by Rocky Landing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 I think they keep 9 guys, but right now it's too early to say what the final version will look like. As I've said before here, I believe in Wyatt Teller and believe he will win the starting left guard job, unless of course we sign Quinton Spain. I do not believe Teller would get through waivers to the practice squad. We lost Ike Boettger for a few weeks, and lost Adam Redmond trying to sneak them through. Teller doesn't get through. I though he played well as a starter and his combine numbers are really good. He's super strong, good three cone, broad etc. His arms are longer than most guards (and longer than some of the talked about tackles in this year's draft). Teller can play and people are sleeping on him. He was one of the top defensive line recruits in the country for a reason, and though he has a ton of experience, conversion guys like he and Dion Dawkins are a bit more raw and take a little longer. As of right now, and obviously this is very likely to change: Dawkins Teller Morse Long Nsekhe Feliciano Waddle Bodine Sirles I give the last spot to Sirles becuase he can play all five positions on the line. Though if I were choosing, I'd keep Ike Boettger. Waddle can play guard and tackle. Feliciano can play guard and center. Bodine can play guard and center. I have Long at right guard because I believe that this is his best position and I think he is better than Feliciano, who does not have near the upside of Long or Teller. I think he is the perfect interior backup. I keep Bodine for now, and though he isn't great, I do think he carries some trade value with the lack of competent centers in the league. I think it is important that you have a natural backup center, so you aren't moving Andy Levitre there in the middle of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Barring injury I predict Bodine will be traded/cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: LT- Nsekhe LG- Spain C- Morse RG- Dawkins RT- Waddle Depth: Feliciano Bodine Long Teller Hot take on Dawkins, I know. Tbh, I can see Nsekhe beating out Dawkins at LT, but I don't see Dawkins as a RG. LG maybe, but he appeared to struggle a lot more when he was being used at RT. I believe he may be best suited to the left side, even if it is at guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, Bangarang said: It’s still March... it's the off season so no harm in making a possible projection. maybe you should just come back in late august if you seem to find these threads not to your liking or standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, Rico said: Morse is a definite upgrade. After that, who really knows. Even if Dawkins progresses and the other 3 spots are true upgrades, it's going to be awhile before they gel as a unit. Hopefully they will start out better than last years group ever played as a group, even if they haven't jelled yet and hopefully they will improve as the year progresses. I don't know how long it takes an OL to jell but hopefully they can at least be average to start and get better from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Rico said: Morse is a definite upgrade. After that, who really knows. Even if Dawkins progresses and the other 3 spots are true upgrades, it's going to be awhile before they gel as a unit. Morse heals all of that. He's the glue, the anchor, the master communicator. It didn't matter who came in at guard next to him in KC. It was a revolving door of guys, but he made it work. We are all in for a real treat to watch his guy go to work. Edited March 24, 2019 by MrEpsYtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: it's the off season so no harm in making a possible projection. Final roster protections a few weeks into free agency and well before the draft is silly. 5 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: maybe you should just come back in late august if you seem to find these threads not to your liking or standard. Thanks for the suggestion but I think I’ll just keep doing what I’m doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 54 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I think I wanna see Teller on the practice squad crazy, he would be snatched in a nano-second 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) Other than Morse (who is a clear upgrade) and Dawkins (who needs to play better than last year), it seems like we have a bunch of guys with significant question marks, at least in terms of being potential starting upgrades from last year's o-line. It will be interesting to see if Nsekhe can be a quality starter at RT given his experience and recent play, but he is older and I don't think we can count on him being the long-term solution at RT. Long played poorly last season at center for the Jets, but he played with an injury. Hopefully, he can be an upgrade at guard. No idea about Feliciano and whether he can become a quality starter. At a minimum, we currently have more quality depth along the o-line compared to last season's group. Hopefully, some of the free agents we signed for the o-line can be upgrades. I still think we will pick a guard and/or tackle in this year's draft in the early rounds. At this point, I believe that target will be Lindstrom (BC) in the second round if he is available. Edited March 24, 2019 by jahnyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdamit Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 can't see teller making it through waivers to get on the practice squad. cheap with some potential somebody will claim him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, jahnyc said: Other than Morse (who is a clear upgrade) and Dawkins (who needs to play better than last year), it seems like we have a bunch of guys with significant question marks, at least in terms of being potential starting upgrades from last year's o-line. It will be interesting to see if Nsekhe can be a quality starter at RT given his experience and recent play, but he is older and I don't think we can count on him being the long-term solution at RT. Long played poorly last season at center for the Jets, but he played with an injury. Hopefully, he can be an upgrade at guard. No idea about Feliciano and whether he can become a quality starter. At a minimum, we currently have more quality depth along the o-line compared to last season's group. Hopefully, some of the free agents we signed for the o-line can be upgrades. I still think we will pick a guard and/or tackle in this year's draft in the early rounds. At this point, I believe that target will be Lindstrom (BC) in the second round if he is available. See I like Lindstrom, but I don't think that his upside or ability is really higher than Wyatt Teller's. I think their prospect level is similar, I just think Lindstrom is a more refined player while Teller is a bit more raw. Their game is similar. I wouldn't mind drafting him in the second, but I don't think you have to becuase that guy is already on your team imo. Edited March 24, 2019 by MrEpsYtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, jahnyc said: Other than Morse (who is a clear upgrade) and Dawkins (who needs to play better than last year), it seems like we have a bunch of guys with significant question marks, at least in terms of being potential starting upgrades from last year's o-line. It will be interesting to see if Nsekhe can be a quality starter at RT given his experience and recent play, but he is older and I don't think we can count on him being the long-term solution at RT. Long played poorly last season at center for the Jets, but he played with an injury. Hopefully, he can be an upgrade at guard. No idea about Feliciano and whether he can become a quality starter. At a minimum, we currently have more quality depth along the o-line compared to last season's group. Hopefully, some of the free agents we signed for the o-line can be upgrades. I still think we will pick a guard and/or tackle in this year's draft in the early rounds. At this point, I believe that target will be Lindstrom (BC) in the second round if he is available. Given it seems we have two left tackles and no natural right tackle I think it makes a lot of sense to draft a right tackle early if the value is right. Interior can wait until the later rounds or even not at all since so many guys are position flexible. Hopefully a couple of the short term guys step up and earn bigger contracts for 2020 and beyond. Edited March 24, 2019 by 4BillsintheBurgh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: I think I wanna see Teller on the practice squad It won’t happen, not because the Bills wouldn’t like too but because another team would pick him up on waivers before he could get there. You have to remember the team liked Ike Boettger and wanted to put him on the practice squad and tried to sneak him in there and the Chiefs grabbed him and he was an UDFA 1st year guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 18 minutes ago, jahnyc said: At a minimum, we currently have more quality depth along the o-line compared to last season's group. Hopefully, some of the free agents we signed for the o-line can be upgrades. I still think we will pick a guard and/or tackle in this year's draft in the early rounds. At this point, I believe that target will be Lindstrom (BC) in the second round if he is available. I get a feeling the Bills are going to trade up for Lindstrom with our second selection 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 32 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Morse heals all of that. He's the glue, the anchor, the master communicator. It didn't matter who came in at guard next to him in KC. It was a revolving door of guys, but he made it work. We are all in for a real treat to watch his guy go to work. Having a center does indeed make bringing the line together and communicating better more likely. Doesn't speed things up all that much, though. Meshing is going to take time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Having a center does indeed make bringing the line together and communicating better more likely. Doesn't speed things up all that much, though. Meshing is going to take time. Agreed. I am assuming that Bobby Johnson had a big hand in bringing that line together in Indy. And elite guard and a bunch of sort of oft injured misfit pieces came together pretty nicely there. I think it's doable, I just hope they figure out who their top five are quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 1 hour ago, RPbillsfan said: With so many lineman signed just wondering what everyone thinks will make the final 53 as I believe the draft will be defensive orientated. Here's my line: Starters: LT - Dawkins LG - Long C - Morse RG - Feliciano RT - Nesheke Depth T - Waddell C - Bodine G - Teller Your thoughts I think I’ll wait till after the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Bangarang said: Final roster protections a few weeks into free agency and well before the draft is silly. Thanks for the suggestion but I think I’ll just keep doing what I’m doing. don't worry, it'll be april soon and you can remind everyone as you had that "it's still march". oh wait, you declined any suggestions so we'll just be looking for the reminder you're sure to be posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) Have to believe Beane adds at least 2 more players to mix in FA/Draft. I see another guard coming and an OT. Long and Feliciano can back up Morse. 9 on active roster then. I will guess at those players currently under contract that will be let go - bolded below Dawkins Nsekhe Waddle Morse Long Feliciano Teller Boettger - PS target Ducasse Sirles Bodine McDermott Edited March 25, 2019 by freddyjj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Coffin Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Why do people think Teller is good? He had a good game in his first start against the Jets but after that he was pedestrian at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Rico said: Morse is a definite upgrade. After that, who really knows. Even if Dawkins progresses and the other 3 spots are true upgrades, it's going to be awhile before they gel as a unit. that's what sucks about rebuilding an O line. and new scheme for some . Takes time to get the trust and the nuances of the guy next door. i think this is really tough to predict at this point. some decent competition should make everyone better : ) 3 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: Teller would get picked up as soon as he hit the waiver wire. yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 53 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: don't worry, it'll be april soon and you can remind everyone as you had that "it's still march". oh wait, you declined any suggestions so we'll just be looking for the reminder you're sure to be posting. You mean to tell me we’ll be making final roster predictions again next month? Yikes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, freddyjj said: Have to believe Beane adds at least 2 more players to mix in FA/Draft. I see another guard coming and an OT. Long and Feliciano can back up Morse. 9 on active roster then. I will guess at those players currently under contract that will be let go - bolded below Dawkins Nsekhe Waddle Morse Long Feliciano Teller Boettger - PS target Ducasse Sirles Bodine This feels like a well educated and properly biased line up. Well done 1 minute ago, Bangarang said: You mean to tell me we’ll be making final roster predictions again next month? Yikes I like to be called "pundit" not sure what it means. but i do like guessing at things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: I like to be called "pundit" not sure what it means. but i do like guessing at things. I’ll be coming out with a 90 man roster prediction thread soon so be on the look out for that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I’ll be coming out with a 90 man roster prediction thread soon so be on the look out for that : )) I will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 4 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...agree 'Crispy....no need to rush him.......needs more work to develop........... He would be picked up within hours. You losing it,old timer. 4 hours ago, JaCrispy said: I think I wanna see Teller on the practice squad Are you loaded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: He would be picked up within hours. You losing it,old timer. ...um....well...er...think I've been busted...kid does have some talent and perhaps with a better supporting cast he can progress quicker to the final 53.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: He would be picked up within hours. You losing it,old timer. Are you loaded? God forbid a starter goes down, I do not want to put my hopes and prayers for the season into a 2nd year 5th round pick...Teller is not what I would consider solid depth, and I think we can do better, but hey, maybe that’s just me... Edited March 24, 2019 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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