Augie Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Not a temperature setting, but we’ve stayed at a couple places lately with heated floors in the master bath. That can spoil you quickly! We are renovating one bath now and will probably tackle the master bath within a year....and that’s pretty tempting! Seems like it could be a nightmare if anything goes wrong under your tile floor. Curious if anyone has any experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, row_33 said: yup, 80 for both locations all year round nobody believes it but i have a temp gauge in both, they still don't believe it they drain out the humidity in the summer and it's nice for the winter Ok just making sure it's not a Canadian/Celsius conversion thing. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Mine’s at 70 year round. Can’t wait to move to Maui - no thermostats! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, The Senator said: Can’t wait to move to Maui - no thermostats! No...just incoming missiles. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 One burns more brown fat (belly fat), leading to better weight maintenance and better sleep at colder temps. https://www.chilitechnology.com/blogs/chili-technology-blog/sleeping-cold-burns-more-belly-fat Also... A 200# man will burn about 100kcal an hour sleeping. 75kcal if awake and watching TV. Oh... And don't forget the socks: https://www.healthline.com/health/sleeping-with-socks-on#takeaway And now you know, the rest of the story. 13 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: No...just incoming missiles. ? And tsunami sirens. 2 hours ago, teef said: my god...aren't you people freezing? No. It's warmer in my house in summer than when I heat in winter. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 40 minutes ago, Augie said: Not a temperature setting, but we’ve stayed at a couple places lately with heated floors in the master bath. That can spoil you quickly! We are renovating one bath now and will probably tackle the master bath within a year....and that’s pretty tempting! Seems like it could be a nightmare if anything goes wrong under your tile floor. Curious if anyone has any experience. I'm seeing them more and more, have been in presentations about them, it is nice. They say the science behind why it's better is that if your feet are warm, the rest of your body will feel warmer, so you dont need as much heat. I was just in a place talking to a guy installing heated floors throughout (this house also has in floor heat in the garage, the back patio, and the driveway), they installer said he has one shot to test and make sure its right cause once they pour the mortar/concrete subflooring you cant fix the piping. I think the electric heaters would be more of an issue and can see them breaking down more then the water systems. Most people use it as supplemental heat in certain areas or rooms so I'm sure many would just not use it if it did t work, or they would be looking at a major reno to replace it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: I'm seeing them more and more, have been in presentations about them, it is nice. They say the science behind why it's better is that if your feet are warm, the rest of your body will feel warmer, so you dont need as much heat. I was just in a place talking to a guy installing heated floors throughout (this house also has in floor heat in the garage, the back patio, and the driveway), they installer said he has one shot to test and make sure its right cause once they pour the mortar/concrete subflooring you cant fix the piping. I think the electric heaters would be more of an issue and can see them breaking down more then the water systems. Most people use it as supplemental heat in certain areas or rooms so I'm sure many would just not use it if it did t work, or they would be looking at a major reno to replace it. Read my link about warm feet, faster sleep, above. Radiant baseboard, floor heat is sweet. Old way of doing things. Forced air blows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) We have built the last three houses we've lived in, so I had a lot to say about the HVAC stuff. Radiant floor heating is really nice, but it is expensive and limits your choice of flooring. You could do the research yourself, but using some tile product is vastly different than carpeting or wood flooring. Did geothermal in the second house. Very nice, especially in the Virginia summers, since it is extremely good at de-humidification. We always had our ac set at 76, and it felt much cooler than any neighbors at 74. Would have done it again, but it suddenly got really expensive. Heat pumps are great for ac, and OK for heat until you get to 40, and I don't care what they say. Below 40, it just doesn't handle it. Wood isn't comfortable. We've done that before, though a woodstove in California, not as a primary heat source, but just to make one room really cozy. Too dry and dirty. LP is OK for a fireplace, but doesn't put out nearly as many BTU's as NatGas. Anyway, that's my experience. Edited March 18, 2019 by sherpa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Read my link about warm feet, faster sleep, above. Radiant baseboard, floor heat is sweet. Old way of doing things. Forced air blows. Yes, if it didn’t..... it wouldn’t work. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewPort71 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Augie said: Not a temperature setting, but we’ve stayed at a couple places lately with heated floors in the master bath. That can spoil you quickly! We are renovating one bath now and will probably tackle the master bath within a year....and that’s pretty tempting! Seems like it could be a nightmare if anything goes wrong under your tile floor. Curious if anyone has any experience. 2013 we had the master bathroom totally remodeled. Heated floors and a walk in shower. The heated floor has a timer controller and it is great. The controller starts the heat at 4Am and shuts off at 7AM. Alarm goes off at 5AM, so the floor is nice and warm by then. We have had no problems (knock on wood) and the cats LOVE the warm floor. We have a contractor who knows what he is doing so that helps too. The controller Brand same is AUBE. www.aubetech.com. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, sherpa said: We have built the last three houses we've lived in, so I had a lot to say about the HVAC stuff. Radiant floor heating is really nice, but it is expensive and limits your choice of flooring. You could do the research yourself, but using some tile product is vastly different than carpeting or wood flooring. Did geothermal in the second house. Very nice, especially in the Virginia summers, since it is extremely good at de-humidification. We always had our ac set at 76, and it felt much cooler than any neighbors at 74. Would have done it again, but it suddenly got really expensive. Heat pumps are great for ac, and OK for heat until you get to 40, and I don't care what they say. Below 40, it just doesn't handle it. Wood isn't comfortable. We've done that before, though a woodstove in California, not as a primary heat source, but just to make one room really cozy. Too dry and dirty. LP is OK for a fireplace, but doesn't put out nearly as many BTU's as NatGas. Anyway, that's my experience. Good info. Never thought about flooring options. We are talking about building (probably a pipe dream) and would want almost exclusively wood floors. That’s a must. We have a townhouse we rent to our son and had to recently replace the heat pump. It was time, but it can’t handle the occasional 20 degree nights here. My sister has a place in Killington, VT with a wood stove. Last time I was there, it was well below zero and we were sleeping on the top floor. All that heat rose and we had to open a window to sleep at night! Heated the whole place that sleeps like 14! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Chef Jim said: Ok just making sure it's not a Canadian/Celsius conversion thing. LOL I’m old enough to use non-metric measurement, its way better for an individual to do this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 HEAT (When Temps Outside Are Below 40): At home during day: 67 At home whilst sleeping: 64 Away from home: 64 AIR CONDITIONING (When Temps Outside Are Above 75): At home during day: 70 At home whilst sleeping: 68 Away from home: 75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I’m too lazy to adjust my stat a couple times a day. I admit it. Winter/summer. I can barely handle that, but the new stat downstairs now has a range. Keep it 69-78, regardless of season, and I’m happy! If we go away for a week, I can see adjusting....if my wife bothers to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 A consistent 71. I do not see how the season impacts the comfort level. It may impact the bill but not how I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 No AC 68 day 62 sleep 10 hours ago, row_33 said: office and home are centrally set to 80 all year round Way way to friggin hot!! I would be sweating my ass off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 6 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: No AC 68 day 62 sleep Way way to friggin hot!! I would be sweating my ass off. If you take out the humidity 80 is good In the summer up here Frozen air forcing down to 70 is horrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 14 hours ago, sherpa said: We have built the last three houses we've lived in, so I had a lot to say about the HVAC stuff. Radiant floor heating is really nice, but it is expensive and limits your choice of flooring. You could do the research yourself, but using some tile product is vastly different than carpeting or wood flooring. Did geothermal in the second house. Very nice, especially in the Virginia summers, since it is extremely good at de-humidification. We always had our ac set at 76, and it felt much cooler than any neighbors at 74. Would have done it again, but it suddenly got really expensive. Heat pumps are great for ac, and OK for heat until you get to 40, and I don't care what they say. Below 40, it just doesn't handle it. Wood isn't comfortable. We've done that before, though a woodstove in California, not as a primary heat source, but just to make one room really cozy. Too dry and dirty. LP is OK for a fireplace, but doesn't put out nearly as many BTU's as NatGas. Anyway, that's my experience. we have two heat pumps and air handlers, (i have no idea what i'm talking about, so ignore me if i'm way off) and the new one we have a great. the ones that were presents when we moved in were way to anemic, and could never heat the house properly. we have a weird situation where we're all electric, and the electric is cheap. we do have a propane tank, but not the large ones to heat the house. the only time it gets pricey is if it drops to below 10 or so for extended periods of time. then it will run constantly, and we can have bills in the $450-500 range. that being said, we crank the air in summer, have our pool set to 87-90, and it may cost me $200 a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon127 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 HEAT (When Temps Outside Are Below 40): At home during day: 74 At home whilst sleeping: 67 Away from home: 67 ( I have cats that prevent me from going colder) AIR CONDITIONING (When Temps Outside Are Above 75): I just have window units, I just turn them on till I'm comfortable During the winter, I keep the house at 74, mainly because my house is heated from the attic, since I have no basement. It isn't warm enough in the house when sitting on the couch or something, unless it is at 74. My bills aren't really that high. I may have one that gets to $200, but I expect and prepare for it. November, December and March Bills usually hover around $100. After that, its nothing but $50 or less ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) All controlled by Nest..One heat pump for each of two levels, gas furnace auto kicks on below 40. HEAT (When Temps Outside Are Below 40): At home during day: 68 At home whilst sleeping: 65 Away from home: 62 AIR CONDITIONING (When Temps Outside Are Above 75): At home during day: 76 At home whilst sleeping: 70 Away from home: 80 I am with the folks who can not believe someone has the heat set to 80 during the winter..I would come in and immediately have to change into shorts and a t-shirt, and then change back again when going outside...67 is perfect when the weather outside is below 55 or so. I say we are heat and cool free between 60 and 78...windows open is all Edited March 19, 2019 by plenzmd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 22 hours ago, Gugny said: HEAT (When Temps Outside Are Below 40): At home during day: 67-68 At home whilst sleeping: 67 Away from home: 66 AIR CONDITIONING (When Temps Outside Are Above 75): At home during day: 72-73 At home whilst sleeping: 74-75 Away from home: 75 Heat: At home during day 68-70 At home sleeping 66-67 Away from home 63-65 AC: At home, anytime, sleeping or awake: 70-72 Not home: 75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 3 hours ago, teef said: we have two heat pumps and air handlers, (i have no idea what i'm talking about, so ignore me if i'm way off) and the new one we have a great. the ones that were presents when we moved in were way to anemic, and could never heat the house properly. we have a weird situation where we're all electric, and the electric is cheap. we do have a propane tank, but not the large ones to heat the house. the only time it gets pricey is if it drops to below 10 or so for extended periods of time. then it will run constantly, and we can have bills in the $450-500 range. that being said, we crank the air in summer, have our pool set to 87-90, and it may cost me $200 a month. I think you might benefit from seeing what you really have. Heat pumps can be set up so that once a certain condition occurs, they activate electrical heat. Kind of like a toaster. They can also be set up to go to LP or some other source under certain conditions. What I do know is that there is no heat pump that works using a regular refrigeration reversal at anything below 35 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 5 hours ago, row_33 said: If you take out the humidity 80 is good In the summer up here Frozen air forcing down to 70 is horrible still too hot for the winter, i actually use a humidifier in the winter because its too dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 23 hours ago, row_33 said: office and home are centrally set to 80 all year round that sounds like when I was in India at a business office 80 was "cool" to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 18 minutes ago, sherpa said: I think you might benefit from seeing what you really have. Heat pumps can be set up so that once a certain condition occurs, they activate electrical heat. Kind of like a toaster. They can also be set up to go to LP or some other source under certain conditions. What I do know is that there is no heat pump that works using a regular refrigeration reversal at anything below 35 degrees. got ya. makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: that sounds like when I was in India at a business office 80 was "cool" to them this is Toronto.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandemonium Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Heat: 65 when home and awake, 60 when away or sleeping ac: 80 when away, 78 when home and awake, 75 sleeping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 23 minutes ago, Chandemonium said: Heat: 65 when home and awake, 60 when away or sleeping ac: 80 when away, 78 when home and awake, 75 sleeping Wow... This only points to one thing. Energy consumption over comfort. It can't be for comfort. You like a 15° difference between seasons. If one liked it cold... How can one like it so damn warm. ??? I am just messing with you... ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandemonium Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 59 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Wow... This only points to one thing. Energy consumption over comfort. It can't be for comfort. You like a 15° difference between seasons. If one liked it cold... How can one like it so damn warm. ??? I am just messing with you... ? A lot of it is admittedly because I’m a cheapskate, but it’s also relative to the seasons. I live in SC so our winters are pretty mild, and summers sweltering. 60’s in the winter is enough to take the chill out of the place and what I’m used to from growing up in a drafty old WNY farmhouse, and in the summer going from 100 outside to 78 inside is enough of a difference to feel nice and cool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, Chandemonium said: A lot of it is admittedly because I’m a cheapskate, but it’s also relative to the seasons. I live in SC so our winters are pretty mild, and summers sweltering. 60’s in the winter is enough to take the chill out of the place and what I’m used to from growing up in a drafty old WNY farmhouse, and in the summer going from 100 outside to 78 inside is enough of a difference to feel nice and cool. I have the same mindset. I never turned on the AC when I lived in the east except to cool down the upstairs at night for sleeping. The reason the same temp setting doesn’t work year round is because I dress differently in summer (shorts/tee shirt) and winter (jeans/sweater) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, KD in CA said: I have the same mindset. I never turned on the AC when I lived in the east except to cool down the upstairs at night for sleeping. The reason the same temp setting doesn’t work year round is because I dress differently in summer (shorts/tee shirt) and winter (jeans/sweater) I wear shorts & tees in the dead of winter. The mail lady saw me yesterday wearing pants. She was shocked. LoL. I have been known to shovel in shorts. That is mandatory though. Gloves, half the time I don't need them unless it starts getting into the 20°s or lower and I am out for extended time doing nothing... Like watching a useless Bills game. Then I will bundle up. LoL... I am so screwed and ill prepared for hot weather. Edited March 21, 2019 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/18/2019 at 6:59 PM, ExiledInIllinois said: Read my link about warm feet, faster sleep, above. Radiant baseboard, floor heat is sweet. Old way of doing things. Forced air blows. We have the cold cast iron rads in an old concrete block house. Its been good in the winter, but not having forced air sucks for not being able to have central A/C We also had an old natural gas boiler replaced with an on demand combo unit for our heat and hot water. On 3/18/2019 at 7:27 PM, sherpa said: We have built the last three houses we've lived in, so I had a lot to say about the HVAC stuff. Radiant floor heating is really nice, but it is expensive and limits your choice of flooring. You could do the research yourself, but using some tile product is vastly different than carpeting or wood flooring. Did geothermal in the second house. Very nice, especially in the Virginia summers, since it is extremely good at de-humidification. We always had our ac set at 76, and it felt much cooler than any neighbors at 74. Would have done it again, but it suddenly got really expensive. Heat pumps are great for ac, and OK for heat until you get to 40, and I don't care what they say. Below 40, it just doesn't handle it. Wood isn't comfortable. We've done that before, though a woodstove in California, not as a primary heat source, but just to make one room really cozy. Too dry and dirty. LP is OK for a fireplace, but doesn't put out nearly as many BTU's as NatGas. Anyway, that's my experience. I have never come across anyone using Geothermal up here yet but have read about it. They were pushing a free course in the area to teach us about them recently but I didnt get to go, its just not common up here yet, although if our provincial government would have kept the incentives going for energy efficiency, we may have started to see it more. I have seen a few heat pump systems around here but they are a bit rare. We don't allow solid fuel fired appliances to be used as primary heat sources in homes up here, they can only be supplemental and require HRV/ERVs to be installed for makeup air. Forced air systems are the most common, usually 95% of all builds I see are forced air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/18/2019 at 10:47 PM, row_33 said: I’m old enough to use non-metric measurement, its way better for an individual to do this I'm not, but I still do because growing up it was much more accurate to watch the Buffalo news for weather then it was Hamilton/Toronto My wife goes by Celcius all the time, I use Fernheight. I am surprised that almost all building in this area uses imperial measurements 99% of the time. I never see plans that are done in metric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: We have the cold cast iron rads in an old concrete block house. Its been good in the winter, but not having forced air sucks for not being able to have central A/C We also had an old natural gas boiler replaced with an on demand combo unit for our heat and hot water. I have never come across anyone using Geothermal up here yet but have read about it. They were pushing a free course in the area to teach us about them recently but I didnt get to go, its just not common up here yet, although if our provincial government would have kept the incentives going for energy efficiency, we may have started to see it more. I have seen a few heat pump systems around here but they are a bit rare. We don't allow solid fuel fired appliances to be used as primary heat sources in homes up here, they can only be supplemental and require HRV/ERVs to be installed for makeup air. Forced air systems are the most common, usually 95% of all builds I see are forced air. You can still have A/C... Central compressor... And individual coils for each room. There is a fan blowing over the coils in each room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 27 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: I wear shorts & tees in the dead of winter. The mail lady saw me yesterday wearing pants. She was shocked. LoL. I have been known to shovel in shorts. That is mandatory though. Gloves, half the time I don't need them unless it starts getting into the 20°s or lower and I am out for extended time doing nothing... Like watching a useless Bills game. Then I will bundle up. LoL... I am so screwed and ill prepared for hot weather. Shocked she didn't have to call the police for indecent exposure? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/19/2019 at 10:20 AM, teef said: we have two heat pumps and air handlers, (i have no idea what i'm talking about, so ignore me if i'm way off) and the new one we have a great. the ones that were presents when we moved in were way to anemic, and could never heat the house properly. we have a weird situation where we're all electric, and the electric is cheap. we do have a propane tank, but not the large ones to heat the house. the only time it gets pricey is if it drops to below 10 or so for extended periods of time. then it will run constantly, and we can have bills in the $450-500 range. that being said, we crank the air in summer, have our pool set to 87-90, and it may cost me $200 a month. Do you heat or cool your pool to 87-90? The club pool in FL was geothermal, which they used to heat in the winter and just as importantly, COOL IN THE SUMMER. Water near 90 degrees takes the fun out of it! We’d set the house pool in the low 80’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/19/2019 at 3:00 PM, row_33 said: this is Toronto.... LOL... Is that like a 3rd world country????? LOL's j/k I love Toronto. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Dawg, I rock 65 in the Summer with my AC and 71 in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 12 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Wow... This only points to one thing. Energy consumption over comfort. It can't be for comfort. You like a 15° difference between seasons. If one liked it cold... How can one like it so damn warm. ??? I am just messing with you... ? You may just be messing with around but its partly true. If you love the cold (possibly to sleep better) why allow it to be so hot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Heat 68 A/C 75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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