Paulus Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: I don't understand how he feels but I understand why he feels. Again PTSD is a hell of a thing. You're one of the worst bigots here. What's your excuse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, IndyMark said: Time. I know you did not state otherwise, but I speculate others would overlook the fact there was absolutely balkanization in the US when the Irish, Italians, Polish, etc.....were coming to America. And with time, assimilation (to an extent) occurred. But there absolutely was balkanization then....it was not a smooth immigration process as the US became "diverse" [at the time what would be diverse]....and it never was a true assimilation, per se. Difference in religions (if one observes a religion) were in existence then and still evident today....among other elements. Multiculturalism is not the issue (do you really have an issue with the Polynesian culture of Hawaii, for example?) it is separists and supremists (I inititally thought isolationists, but technically that would not be correct) that are the issue that are causing these false fears of others who are different. This is why I implied that ignorance is truly the activator of violence. That and fear. I appreciate your reply. This is half true as it implies standard expectations and demands placed on the immigrant communities, access to social services and safety net, and the structural costs placed on the welcoming communities. Imigrants used to come here because the wished to become American, and America expected assimilation of culture, and language; and they shared in western values. It’s incredibly disingenuous to imply otherwise. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 39 minutes ago, IndyMark said: Thank you for posting that; it is good to see other countries also have idiots as politicians. This Anning fellow seems to be dumb and logically challenged. Right. He said it for no reason at all ??♂️??♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, IndyMark said: Time. I know you did not state otherwise, but I speculate others would overlook the fact there was absolutely balkanization in the US when the Irish, Italians, Polish, etc.....were coming to America. And with time, assimilation (to an extent) occurred. But there absolutely was balkanization then....it was not a smooth immigration process as the US became "diverse" [at the time what would be diverse]....and it never was a true assimilation, per se. Difference in religions (if one observes a religion) were in existence then and still evident today....among other elements. Multiculturalism is not the issue (do you really have an issue with the Polynesian culture of Hawaii, for example?) it is separists and supremists (I inititally thought isolationists, but technically that would not be correct) that are the issue that are causing these false fears of others who are different. This is why I implied that ignorance is truly the activator of violence. That and fear. I appreciate your reply. Youre a *****ingjackass and I loath your writing style. America is not an example of multiculturalism. I mean you could argue the colonies were, but not America. But you’re too mush of a knowitallcunt to debate with so good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyMark Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Youre a *****ingjackass and I loath your writing style. America is not an example of multiculturalism. I mean you could argue the colonies were, but not America. But you’re too mush of a knowitallcunt to debate with so good day. For all that is good, it is LOATHE. And it is YOU'RE. I feel I will tire of protecting you from yourself. I thought you were done with me? Also, the poster I was replying to was arguing that multiculturalism was the cause of current issues and events. I simply offered an alternate thought. My apologies for trying to have a discourse on this. You are right. Is this better? PS- I just noticed, I believe you meant to say "much", I am too much of a $#@!&^% to debate with....."; corrrect? Edited March 15, 2019 by IndyMark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, IndyMark said: Time. I know you did not state otherwise, but I speculate others would overlook the fact there was absolutely balkanization in the US when the Irish, Italians, Polish, etc.....were coming to America. And with time, assimilation (to an extent) occurred. But there absolutely was balkanization then....it was not a smooth immigration process as the US became "diverse" [at the time what would be diverse]....and it never was a true assimilation, per se. Difference in religions (if one observes a religion) were in existence then and still evident today....among other elements. Multiculturalism is not the issue (do you really have an issue with the Polynesian culture of Hawaii, for example?) it is separists and supremists (I inititally thought isolationists, but technically that would not be correct) that are the issue that are causing these false fears of others who are different. This is why I implied that ignorance is truly the activator of violence. That and fear. I appreciate your reply. Cool story. But when you have people like the Jew hater ilhan Omar in the Congress, it kind of undermines your theory that all is well in multicultural America. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyMark Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: Cool story. But when you have people like the Jew hater ilhan Omar in the Congress, it kind of undermines your theory that all is well in multicultural America. I am fairly confident I did not make the assertion all is well in America. Clearly, it is not. However, it is not multicultural thought that is the issue, it is separist thought or supremacy thought. Do you not agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 minute ago, IndyMark said: For all that is good, it is LOATHE. And it is YOU'RE. I feel I will tire of protecting you from yourself. I thought you were done with me? Also, the poster I was replying to was arguing that multiculturalism was the cause of current issues and events. I simply offered an alternate thought. My apologies for trying to have a discourse on this. You are right. Is this better? PS- I just noticed, I believe you meant to say "much", I am too much of a $#@!&^% to debate with....."; corrrect? Well I wrote this driving so I’m not looking at my phone. Gotta keep eyes on the road. But it’s imprtanylt for you to know you’re a douche. Your points are all *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, IndyMark said: I am fairly confident I did not make the assertion all is well in America. Clearly, it is not. However, it is not multicultural thought that is the issue, it is separist thought or supremacy thought. Do you not agree? I most certainly do not. I think the idea that white supremacy is a huge issue is a manufactured bit of nonsense created by the "free press" to silence anyone who cares question their multicultural dogma. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyMark Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Just now, The_Dude said: Well I wrote this driving so I’m not looking at my phone. Gotta keep eyes on the road. But it’s imprtanylt for you to know you’re a douche. Your points are all *****. Seriously, do not text and drive. That is not cool. Really....you win. If that makes you not distracted, then I am good with admitting my fault in logic and defaulting to your train of thought. This conversation is not worth risky driving. There I said it, you and your cohort here have made me do a 180 degree turn and accept that you are right and I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 minute ago, IndyMark said: I am fairly confident I did not make the assertion all is well in America. Clearly, it is not. However, it is not multicultural thought that is the issue, it is separist thought or supremacy thought. Do you not agree? Look at this douche correcting people on grammar and using 2 spaces after a period. Usually that’s indicative of age. Typewriters. But i I love that douche tactic. ‘Ah, you forgot an apostrophe which clearly means everything you say is wrong.’ There’s not enough salt in the world for those kinda snails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyMark Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: I most certainly do not. I think the idea that white supremacy is a huge issue is a manufactured bit of nonsense created by the "free press" to silence anyone who cares question their multicultural dogma. Fair enough. You have your beliefs, I have mine. As it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, IndyMark said: For all that is good, it is LOATHE. And it is YOU'RE. I feel I will tire of protecting you from yourself. I thought you were done with me? Also, the poster I was replying to was arguing that multiculturalism was the cause of current issues and events. I simply offered an alternate thought. My apologies for trying to have a discourse on this. You are right. Is this better? PS- I just noticed, I believe you meant to say "much", I am too much of a $#@!&^% to debate with....."; corrrect? You'll have to excuse The Dude. It's the ides of March, and he has yet to get over Julius Caesar being killed... over 2,000 years ago. Between that, and his inherent misogyny and racism, it's too much for the lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/10718902/Aotearoa-Muslim-is-proud-to-support-Isis May add another thin* layer. Edited March 16, 2019 by Paulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurmal34 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 11 hours ago, LABillzFan said: But, hey...I'm contributing to her campaign. She's the best thing to happen to the right since Guam tipped over. Yeah Mark Meadows sure proved that in the Ross hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 People on all sides of the political aisle should be forced to adhere to the "48-hour rule". Not only would more facts come out, the rhetoric would be less cruel. And thread: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 13 hours ago, Paulus said: You're one of the worst bigots here. What's your excuse? I am? Please explain how you’ve come to this conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Facebook cashing in. Woohoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 watched the video. I have a disturbed curiosity about stuff like that. I don't regret watching it even for as bad as it was. I'm a firm believer that one should not live in a bubble and be aware of all things, good or bad but I will however condemn the man for doing that. I'm not a believer in god, but this man must of really felt god like to go out, premeditated, and waste those lives so methodically. it really shows just what kind of sick ***** walk this earth. I hope it was all worth if for him because at 32 I was just getting really started in life with family and career and this man will only be dreaming of the freedom to do that as he should either meet a gun squad or spend the rest of his pathetic life behind bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: watched the video. I have a disturbed curiosity about stuff like that. I don't regret watching it even for as bad as it was. I'm a firm believer that one should not live in a bubble and be aware of all things, good or bad but I will however condemn the man for doing that. I'm not a believer in god, but this man must of really felt god like to go out, premeditated, and waste those lives so methodically. it really shows just what kind of sick ***** walk this earth. I hope it was all worth if for him because at 32 I was just getting really started in life with family and career and this man will only be dreaming of the freedom to do that as he should either meet a gun squad or spend the rest of his pathetic life behind bars. Formative years were the 70s where it seemed some splinter gang was doing this weekly, and the lefties all applauded it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 minute ago, row_33 said: Formative years were the 70s where it seemed some splinter gang was doing this weekly, and the lefties all applauded it. I'm not religious nor of any political party, not left, not right. some would call it independent. I call it I keep my ass far away from politics. yes, I vote being my given right but I register independent. as much as this is a political forum I generally stay clear of politics as it can be a deal where it can be handled (discussion/opinions) respectfully but in many cases it leads to anger, hate and division, so I tend to stay clear. I simply stated my view on this slaughter that took place and found it to be just some white australian kid that was so full of hate he felt god like to take those lives he must of felt were a threat to him. they obviously were caught completely off guard and were defenseless. so my opinion on his actions are that I feel he was/is a coward. any man who walks (after wasting dozens more) down a street, shoots a female in the back and walks up on her while shes pleading for help and blows her head off, is a coward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needle Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 The shooter was surprisingly calm and smooth in that video. It looked exactly like a first person shooter game. Unfortunately no end in sight to this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 This is the world we’re living in. The dude has some ideas how to end violence between Muslims and everyone else, but I promise you that won’t be the end of violence. Frankly there’s nothing any of us can do to stop it. Humans are inherently violent. This isn’t anything new. People will always be angry and hateful. People will always use any means to get what they want. People will always complain. There’s good and evil. It’s always been this way. Social media just makes it seem louder. The only course of action we can take is to teach tolerance and acceptance to our kids. Teach them to love all of mankind. Stress to them how similar we all really are instead of pointing out the very few differences. Even then we won’t completely stop violence, but it’s a good start in the right direction. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Justice said: This is the world we’re living in. The dude has some ideas how to end violence between Muslims and everyone else, but I promise you that won’t be the end of violence. Frankly there’s nothing any of us can do to stop it. Humans are inherently violent. This isn’t anything new. People will always be angry and hateful. People will always use any means to get what they want. People will always complain. There’s good and evil. It’s always been this way. Social media just makes it seem louder. The only course of action we can take is to teach tolerance and acceptance to our kids. Teach them to love all of mankind. Stress to them how similar we all really are instead of pointing out the very few differences. Even then we won’t completely stop violence, but it’s a good start in the right direction. Sounds reasonable and a good place to start would be in our schools/madrassas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Sounds reasonable and a good place to start would be in our schools/madrassas. Very true. Any place of learning for that matter. Places of worship, schools, and at home. It all starts at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, Justice said: Very true. Any place of learning for that matter. Places of worship, schools, and at home. It all starts at home. It's where racism is learned too, no one is born to hate, it's learned, mainly in the home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Sounds reasonable and a good place to start would be in our schools/madrassas. Indoctrination is not the answer, it's the problem, some would argue. Edited March 16, 2019 by Paulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 20 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Sounds reasonable and a good place to start would be in our schools/madrassas. I’d say, to someone’s point earlier, a place would be right here at PPP. And in news comments. The anonymous dehumanizing interaction that forums like this encourage is no small part of the problem when a lonely angry person goes off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Paulus said: Indoctrination is not the answer, either. That's what's happening now in our schools, especially in colleges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) Against my better judgement, I wanted to come over to PPP and see how folks were reacting to this disgusting, racist, white nationalist terrorist attack and what I discover very quickly is that there's no way that you can get banned over here for anything at all that you say. I'm just so disgusted that anyone could overtly sympathize with the perpetrators of this horrifying mass murder and then go on to advocate outlawing the Muslim religion and boast "I love killing Haj" at all. What's worse is that it's apparently okay over here in PPP? Utterly disgusting. What a ***** backwards forum where words like ***** and ***** are censored but advocating the genocide of an entire religion is not. ***** gross. Edited March 16, 2019 by transplantbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Against my better judgement, I wanted to come over to PPP and see how folks were reacting to this disgusting, racist, white nationalist terrorist attack and what I discover very quickly is that there's no way that you can get banned over here for anything at all that you say. I'm just so disgusted that anyone could overtly sympathize with the perpetrators of this horrifying mass murder and then go on to advocate outlawing the Muslim religion and boast "I love killing Haj" at all. What's worse is that it's apparently okay over here in PPP? Utterly disgusting. It's not ok. Did you see where everyone called him out for it? Literally no one agreed with him, and several asked the mods to deal with him. So try being less of a judgemental ass. Someone please quote me, so this judgemental ass can read it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Against my better judgement, I wanted to come over to PPP and see how folks were reacting to this disgusting, racist, white nationalist terrorist attack and what I discover very quickly is that there's no way that you can get banned over here for anything at all that you say. I'm just so disgusted that anyone could overtly sympathize with the perpetrators of this horrifying mass murder and then go on to advocate outlawing the Muslim religion and boast "I love killing Haj" at all. What's worse is that it's apparently okay over here in PPP? Utterly disgusting. What a ***** backwards forum where words like ***** and ***** are censored but advocating the genocide of an entire religion is not. ***** gross. On 3/15/2019 at 7:13 AM, meazza said: You’re disgusting. On 3/15/2019 at 8:23 AM, DC Tom said: You're horrible. On 3/15/2019 at 8:26 AM, BringBackOrton said: Please leave. You are not welcome in this community. On 3/15/2019 at 8:32 AM, meazza said: Agreed. There’s been some pretty terrible posters here but he’s in the top 5 On 3/15/2019 at 9:31 AM, DC Tom said: Your "I like killing Haj" experience. You really should have been drowned at birth. On 3/15/2019 at 9:47 AM, Canadian Bills Fan said: Dude... You are walking a VERY fine line here. I am one for respecting peoples opinions but I am not sure how much more of your views I can let continue, even with this being PPP, there still are morals and guidelines that we all need to obey by on here. On 3/15/2019 at 10:11 AM, GG said: Genocide and mass relocation is your only solution for people you disagree with? I think civilized, non-homicidal people can come up with a lot more solutions than that. On 3/15/2019 at 10:12 AM, 3rdnlng said: Your solutions or those solutions modified may have some merit. Your enthusiasm for "killing Haj" is what is repulsive. You will never get to discuss the meat of your proposals when you spew your hate. Hey transplant, go ***** yourself buddy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Against my better judgement, I wanted to come over to PPP and see how folks were reacting to this disgusting, racist, white nationalist terrorist attack and what I discover very quickly is that there's no way that you can get banned over here for anything at all that you say. I'm just so disgusted that anyone could overtly sympathize with the perpetrators of this horrifying mass murder and then go on to advocate outlawing the Muslim religion and boast "I love killing Haj" at all. What's worse is that it's apparently okay over here in PPP? Utterly disgusting. Trust me bro, this place is best in very small doses and that’s what I recommend to you, because we shouldn’t tell ppl how to think and what to say. This place isn’t about censorship nor should it be. Open dialogue can help and in some cases be hurtful. Just like in society. The dude is scary though. I’m the Muslim here and I’d bet anything if people had to bet on who’s most likely to go on a violent rampage it’d be him by a mile. I hope he gets help. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Against my better judgement, I wanted to come over to PPP and see how folks were reacting to this disgusting, racist, white nationalist terrorist attack and what I discover very quickly is that there's no way that you can get banned over here for anything at all that you say. I'm just so disgusted that anyone could overtly sympathize with the perpetrators of this horrifying mass murder and then go on to advocate outlawing the Muslim religion and boast "I love killing Haj" at all. What's worse is that it's apparently okay over here in PPP? Utterly disgusting. Do you think you could go transplant yourself to somewhere else? Your description above is not what went down here but as usual, you're a snowflake and you'll try to find a way to make this the perception. If you were paying attention you'd have noticed that the bolded above was universally condemned here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 On 3/15/2019 at 5:33 AM, The_Dude said: It’s understandable, but this is not the way. This will happen in the US more and more (I know this happened in NZ) as Muslims ramp up their numbers with the help of democrats. Then they’ll get their revenge killings. Then the US will implode like the Balkans in the early 90’s because there’s noncoexisting with muslims. Sunni and Shia Muslims can’t coexist, ya think they’ll live peacefully in mass with others? Ha. I do NOT condone terrorist attacks. This will only add fuel to the problem. But it’s my guess that’s what these people wanted. They don’t seek an end to the issues as I do, they sought to amp up the tensions to initiate some kind of war. Anyways, I just hope Hobbiton is ok because I haven’t seen it yet. Crazy hobbits. Holy Phuc...!!!! Wow... You gotta be kidding... Like @meazza said... 6 minutes ago, DC Tom said: It's not ok. Did you see where everyone called him out for it? Literally no one agreed with him, and several asked the mods to deal with him. So try being less of a judgemental ass. Someone please quote me, so this judgemental ass can read it. Hey Buddy, what's up... Just saying hi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Justice said: Trust me bro, this place is best in very small doses and that’s what I recommend to you, because we shouldn’t tell ppl how to think and what to say. This place isn’t about censorship nor should it be. Open dialogue can help and in some cases be hurtful. Just like in society. The dude is scary though. I’m the Muslim here and I’d bet anything if people had to bet on who’s most likely to go on a violent rampage it’d be him by a mile. I hope he gets help. My wife is Muslim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Against my better judgement, I wanted to come over to PPP and see how folks were reacting to this disgusting, racist, white nationalist terrorist attack and what I discover very quickly is that there's no way that you can get banned over here for anything at all that you say. I'm just so disgusted that anyone could overtly sympathize with the perpetrators of this horrifying mass murder and then go on to advocate outlawing the Muslim religion and boast "I love killing Haj" at all. What's worse is that it's apparently okay over here in PPP? Utterly disgusting. Have any of you been outside of the US/Canada? So sickening how sheltered some of you are. And, these people vote. It's called a discussion. Edited March 16, 2019 by Paulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Don’t want to go back and find the post about America being a salad bowl instead of a melting pot, but I’d still like to reply. I can’t disagree more. As a first generation American, as are all my cousins, we have assimilated into American culture rapidly and my kid’s even more so. Assimilation is an unstoppable force. I can’t speak for everyone so maybe I’m wrong but in my experience I don’t see it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, DC Tom said: It's not ok. Did you see where everyone called him out for it? Literally no one agreed with him, and several asked the mods to deal with him. So try being less of a judgemental ass. Someone please quote me, so this judgemental ass can read it. Yeah, I have no idea what he was reading. Nearly everyone in this thread said that this is not the answer, and how terrible for those people and the shooters are horrible people. The dude and bilz stated they had seen things in wartime that civilians cannot understand (and I am certain they have) and it leads people who have fought in wars (or military actions) to think differently. No one here condones this massacre. Edited March 16, 2019 by Buffalo_Gal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, meazza said: My wife is Muslim. When did you get married and how did that happen? Lol I’m happy for you? Lol. Btw. That’s not a poke at your marriage just in marriage in general lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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