NZ Mosque shooting *GRAPHIC* (50 dead) (1 shooter arrested)

[Foxx]

10 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

I argued that a while ago - better to keep crazy in the open where you can see it, rather than consign it to the shadows and pretend it doesn't exist.  

 

But - again, just in my view - there's at the very least liability issues associated with having someone post, among other calls to violence, "I like killing Haj" in a thread about mass shootings a mosques that supersedes any standard of "free speech" on a private message board.  I don't think reporting him to the authorities would be out of line.

 

all points agreed. 

 

i can't say for sure because i have no experience but i'm guessing war has traumatized the young lad. the wars of today are not the same wars our fathers fought, there are no rules anymore. i can't imagine the hell he lived through. i guess when you have limited means, you fight the fight that gives you the best chance of winning.

 

i'm not real big on the US hegemony though, i have never believed we should be the worlds policeman. and it's not so much that we have been the world's policeman, more that we have been working on behalf of the petrodollar. that however is a different argument altogether.

Edited March 16, 2019 by Foxx

[row_33]

if that's transplant's virtue-signalling self-righteous definition of "better judgment", hopefully he or she doesn't show us the bad side of it.

 

 

[bilzfancy]

1 minute ago, Foxx said:

all points agreed. 

 

i can't say for sure because i have no experience but i'm guessing war has traumatized the young lad. the wars of today are not the same wars our fathers fought, there are no rules anymore. i can't imagine the hell he lived through. i guess when you have limited means, you fight the fight that gives you the best chance of winning.

 

i not real big on the US hegemony, i have never believed we should be the worlds policeman. and it's not so much that we have been the world's policeman, more that we have been working on behalf of the petrodollar. that however is a different argument altogether.

This is why I posted that I kinda understood where he was coming from

[row_33]

31 minutes ago, bilzfancy said:

This is why I posted that I kinda understood where he was coming from

 

you weren't a problem.... sometimes it's good to try to talk someone off a ledge if possible

 

[Paulus]

1 hour ago, DC Tom said:

 

I argued that a while ago - better to keep crazy in the open where you can see it, rather than consign it to the shadows and pretend it doesn't exist.  

 

But - again, just in my view - there's at the very least liability issues associated with having someone post, among other calls to violence, "I like killing Haj" in a thread about mass shootings a mosques that supersedes any standard of "free speech" on a private message board.  I don't think reporting him to the authorities would be out of line.

 

"I wipe my own ass," is not a call for you to start doing so, shmuck.

Edited March 16, 2019 by Paulus

[3rdnlng]

The_Dude had some serious points that should be discussed, but he didn't allow for that discussion because he surrounded the serious points with either a legitimate hate for "Haj" or he was pulling our collective legs with fake hate. The real question to answer is if the western world can coexist peacefully with fundamentalist Islam?

 

Edited March 16, 2019 by 3rdnlng

[Paulus]

21 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

The_Dude had some serious points that should be discussed, but he didn't allow for that discussion because he surrounded the serious points with either a legitimate hate for "Haj" or he was pulling our collective legs with fake hate. The real question to answer is if the western world can coexist peacefully with fundamentalist Islam?

 

The_Dude's lack of ignorance is why folks here are clammoring. 

 

"There is no other reality but what I have been shown..." classic

 

 

 

Edited March 16, 2019 by Paulus

[DC Tom]

32 minutes ago, Paulus said:

"I wipe my own ass," is not a call for you to start doing so, shmuck.

 

What?  Are you high?  Tell me you're high.

 

He had a pattern of violent threats, including but not limited to threatening to shoot other posters.  But keep pretending he was banned for just four words.

[row_33]

16 minutes ago, Paulus said:

 

 

 

 

 

one of the worst adopted cliches on earth

 

i guess a "Socratic classroom method" has been more abused ten-million-fold.

 

 

[Paulus]

54 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

What?  Are you high?  Tell me you're high.

 

He had a pattern of violent threats, including but not limited to threatening to shoot other posters.  But keep pretending he was banned for just four words.

I responded to your statement about him stating he "liked killing haj." If he threatened to shoot someone, that is something different (I admit). However, you're acting as if a reader knows the entire post history of a poster. You have poor awareness if you think readers know should automatically know what you're referencing, especially when you quote something so easily distinguished to support your claims. 

 

Perhaps, it is me, though. I didn't even know he was banned. 

52 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

one of the worst adopted cliches on earth

 

i guess a "Socratic classroom method" has been more abused ten-million-fold.

 

 

It is one people recognize. Again, I think a lot of you have lived incredibly sheltered lives, basically living in a vacuum. As a vet, I know a lot of people 100x "worse" than the_dude. I suppose, some of yall just need a bit-o-diversity. Or, idk, maybe diversity is scary. There is a reason why you're iron class, and the_dude is silver.

Edited March 16, 2019 by Paulus

[DC Tom]

11 minutes ago, Paulus said:

I responded to your statement about him stating he "liked killing haj." If he threatened to shoot someone, that is something different (I admit). However, you're acting as if a reader knows the entire post history of a poster. You have poor awareness if you think readers know should automatically know what you're referencing, especially when you quote something so easily distinguished to support your claims. 

 

Perhaps, it is me, though. I didn't even know he was banned. 

It is one people recognize. Again, I think a lot of you have lived incredibly sheltered lives, basically living in a vacuum. As a vet, I know a lot of people 100x "worse" than the_dude. I suppose, some of yall just need a bit-o-diversity. Or, idk, maybe diversity is scary. There is a reason why you're iron class, and the_dude is silver.

 

 

Thanks for that.  I'd forgotten how much of an idiot you really are.

[row_33]

16 minutes ago, Paulus said:

I responded to your statement about him stating he "liked killing haj." If he threatened to shoot someone, that is something different (I admit). However, you're acting as if a reader knows the entire post history of a poster. You have poor awareness if you think readers know should automatically know what you're referencing, especially when you quote something so easily distinguished to support your claims. 

 

Perhaps, it is me, though. I didn't even know he was banned. 

It is one people recognize. Again, I think a lot of you have lived incredibly sheltered lives, basically living in a vacuum. As a vet, I know a lot of people 100x "worse" than the_dude. I suppose, some of yall just need a bit-o-diversity. Or, idk, maybe diversity is scary. There is a reason why you're iron class, and the_dude is silver.

 

There is no defending what he posted yesterday

 

[Paulus]

3 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

There is no defending what he posted yesterday

 

Cite to the exact thing he said, please. I admit, I did not read everything that poster said. I really want to know.

10 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

 

Thanks for that.  I'd forgotten how much of an idiot you really are.

Says the guy who has not been outdoors in, how long has it been?

[Chef Jim]

23 hours ago, Paulus said:

You're one of the worst bigots here. What's your excuse?

 

Still waiting for an explanation.  

[Q-baby!]

1 hour ago, Paulus said:

Cite to the exact thing he said, please. I admit, I did not read everything that poster said. I really want to know.

Says the guy who has not been outdoors in, how long has it been?

But you are posting evidence of him being outside? 

[Paulus]

5 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Still waiting for an explanation.  

That's the thing. You're unaware that attacking white, male Catholics is bigoted. No surprise, the echo chamber many of you live in is designed to keep you self-righteous in your ignorance. It is pathetic really. Have you ever really pitied something other than yourself?

Just now, BigMcD said:

But you are posting evidence of him being outside? 

Last time he was.

[/dev/null]

2 hours ago, Paulus said:

"There is no other reality but what I have been shown..." classic

 

 

[BeginnersMind]

Boyst is gone. Now The Dude. 

 

This place is getting better all the time. I’m not crying for them. They can both find forums for their hobbies. 

Edited March 16, 2019 by BeginnersMind

[Paulus]

3 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

 

 

I mean, some people are just unaware that their perception is not absolute.

[Q-baby!]

1 minute ago, BeginnersMind said:

Boyst is gone. Now The Dude. 

 

This place is getting better all the time. Don’t cry for them. I’m not crying for them. They can both find forums for their hobbies. 

Boyst is gone? 

[3rdnlng]

13 minutes ago, Paulus said:

That's the thing. You're unaware that attacking white, male Catholics is bigoted. No surprise, the echo chamber many of you live in is designed to keep you self-righteous in your ignorance. It is pathetic really. Have you ever really pitied something other than yourself?

Last time he was.

You might want to get to learn a little bit about the posters here before shooting your mouth off. If you did you might have realized that what you are attributing to Chef just doesn't make any sense.

[Paulus]

1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

You might want to get to learn a little bit about the posters here before shooting your mouth off. If you did you might have realized that what you are attributing to Chef just doesn't make any sense.

My bad, it was 34. Sorry, @Chef Jim

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

A rhetorical question: where's the outrage over the several thousand Christians murdered by Muslims in West Africa every year? 

 

Oh that's right. It happens in Africa, and Muslims aren't the target. Nothing to see here.

[GG]

1 minute ago, Paulus said:

My bad, it was 34. Sorry, @Chef Jim

I can see how letters and numbers can be misunderstood 

[Chef Jim]

3 hours ago, LABillzFan said:

 

Maybe so, but our weekly Meatless Monday Potluck is to die for. Chef Jim brings a quinoa kale vichyssoise that's out of this world.

 

Bring a side dish next week and join the fun!!

 

Wait....Meatless Monday??  I thought you said Meathhead Monday.  It was just a coincidence I brought a vegetarian dish.  I mean think about it  Meathead Monday makes so much sense here. 

[DC Tom]

2 minutes ago, GG said:

I can see how letters and numbers can be misunderstood 

 

 

[3rdnlng]

1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Wait....Meatless Monday??  I thought you said Meathhead Monday.  It was just a coincidence I brought a vegetarian dish.  I mean think about it  Meathead Monday makes so much sense here. 

Sorry, HAHA Gator can't make it on Mondays. Too many towels to fold after the weekend.

[Chef Jim]

3 hours ago, bilzfancy said:

This is why I posted that I kinda understood where he was coming from

 

And sorry I misunderstood your post.  I, for some reason, thought it meant to mean you, at least partially, agreed with him. 

[Paulus]

22 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

 

I made a mistake. I hope you don't make one and go outside. It's super scary.

 

[transplantbillsfan]

4 hours ago, BringBackOrton said:

Here you go:

 

The Dude has ridden the line of being a disgusting person with disgusting beliefs for months.  Half of the regulars here have him on ignore, and the other half tell him how much of a piece of crap he is in just about every thread he's posted in.

 

He's a pretty damn long time poster here, though and he had to know the norms. And if discussion remotely similar to what he was advocating--sympathizing with a White Nationalist murderer, which he was. Advocating the exile of all Muslims from our Country, which he was. Saying that there are too many Muuslims out there in the world to try to kill them all, which is really why the exile option is the best, which he did--is viewed as acceptable here

 

Which makes this blurb ENTIRELY wrong. He knew the norms and disregarded them to spew his hate.  His hate was never deemed acceptable by anyone who spent 5 seconds reading before spouting off how much better they are than the people who post here.  All it does it make you look like an ignorant, moral grandstanding fool who is more concerned with preaching about how superior he is than actively counteracting hate.  

 

He remained on here unbanned and posting for more than half a day after saying he "love(d) killing Haj."

 

All my original comments about this forum as a whole stand. The_Dude may have been forced out eventually because enough people complained about him. Good for those of you who did... but the mods let him stay for... what...?... 14 hours...?

 

That's just a bad look for a subforum of a message board on the whole that will ban posters within minutes of doing incredibly trivial things in comparison to what The_Dude said, yet he remained for more than half a day.

 

You guys don't like me over here. I don't give a crap what some idiot on the Internet thinks of me. It's some of the thoughts as a whole on society, politics, racism, climate, public discourse, etc. from those idiots on the Internet that are troubling.

 

And especially those sympathizing with the positions of racist terrorists.

 

I'm the opposite on the whole of what the most vocal on this subforum seem to be. I'm liberal. I'm progressive. Whatever the hell you want to call it. I do disagree with some of the most liberal stances, but it just doesn't matter here.

 

However, regardless of how much you might dislike me, there's something wrong with the infrastructure here if he was allowed to remain that long after those despicable comments.

 

Which brings me back to my original point. Is there a mod here watching or not? If there is, I suspect this instance is like the way you boil a frog starting from cold water. Put it in there when it's cold, turn on the heat, gets a little hotter. A little hotter. But still manageable. Still hotter. Hotter still.

 

Next thing you know you're eating boiled frog.

 

I mosy in here from time to time and I see plenty that would get banned in a snap on the main board. So much of the dialogue sinks to mean-spirited and violent in tone that doesn't get banned that mods might be numb to that when just overtly WRONG things that are said are viewed as "just another one of those things allowed in PPP." You advertise the allowance of that deteriorated dialogue as a perk. I fail to see how.

 

I guess you guys just enjoy your boiling water over here.

 

Symptom of the times, I guess.

Edited March 17, 2019 by transplantbillsfan

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, Paulus said:

That's the thing. You're unaware that attacking white, male Catholics is bigoted. No surprise, the echo chamber many of you live in is designed to keep you self-righteous in your ignorance. It is pathetic really. Have you ever really pitied something other than yourself?

 

 

What in the world are you talking about?  Please point out where I have attacked white male Catholics. 

50 minutes ago, Paulus said:

My bad, it was 34. Sorry, @Chef Jim

 

Accepted......sort of. 

[3rdnlng]

2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

What in the world are you talking about?  Please point out where I have attacked white male Catholics. 

 

Accepted......sort of. 

Sure, but he confused you with 34 and you are accepting his apology? Weakshit.

[RaoulDuke79]

21 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

He remained on here unbanned and posting for more than half a day after saying he "love(d) killing Haj."

 

All my original comments about this forum as a whole stand. The_Dude may have been forced out eventually because enough people complained about him. Good for those of you who did... but the mods let him stay for... what...?... 14 hours...?

 

That's just a bad look for a subforum of a message board on the whole that will ban posters within minutes of doing incredibly trivial things in comparison to what The_Dude said, yet he remained for more than half a day.

 

You guys don't like me over here. I don't give a crap what some idiot on the Internet thinks of me. It's some of the thoughts as a whole on society, politics, racism, climate, public discourse, etc. from those idiots on the Internet that are troubling.

 

And especially those sympathizing with the positions of racist terrorists.

 

I'm the opposite on the whole of what the most vocal on this subforum seem to be. I'm liberal. I'm progressive. Whatever the hell you want to call it. I do disagree with some of the most liberal stances, but it just doesn't matter here.

 

However, regardless of how much you might dislike me, there's something wrong with the infrastructure here if he was allowed to remain that long after those despicable comments.

 

Which brings me back to my original point. Is there a mod here watching or not? If there is, I suspect this instance is like the way you boil a frog starting from cold water. Put it in there when it's cold, turn on the heat, gets a little hotter. A little hotter. But still manageable. Still hotter. Hotter still.

 

Next thing you know you're eating boiled frog.

 

I mosy in here from time to time and I see plenty that would get banned in a snap on the main board. So much of the dialogue sinks to mean-spirited and violent in tone that doesn't get banned that mods might be numb to that when just overtly WRONG things that are said are viewed as "just another one of those things allowed in PPP." You advertise the allowance of that deteriorated dialogue as a perk. I fail to see how.

 

I guess you guys just enjoy your boiling water over here.

 

Symptom of the times, I guess.

If it's such an issue to you, address it in the customer service forum.

[BeginnersMind]

1 hour ago, BigMcD said:

Boyst is gone? 

I sure hope so. 

[Chef Jim]

23 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

He remained on here unbanned and posting for more than half a day after saying he "love(d) killing Haj."

 

All my original comments about this forum as a whole stand. The_Dude may have been forced out eventually because enough people complained about him. Good for those of you who did... but the mods let him stay for... what...?... 14 hours...?

 

That's just a bad look for a subforum of a message board on the whole that will ban posters within minutes of doing incredibly trivial things in comparison to what The_Dude said, yet he remained for more than half a day.

 

You guys don't like me over here. I don't give a crap what some idiot on the Internet thinks of me. It's some of the thoughts as a whole on society, politics, racism, climate, public discourse, etc. from those idiots on the Internet that are troubling.

 

And especially those sympathizing with the positions of racist terrorists.

 

I'm the opposite on the whole of what the most vocal on this subforum seem to be. I'm liberal. I'm progressive. Whatever the hell you want to call it. I do disagree with some of the most liberal stances, but it just doesn't matter here.

 

However, regardless of how much you might dislike me, there's something wrong with the infrastructure here if he was allowed to remain that long after those despicable comments.

 

Which brings me back to my original point. Is there a mod here watching or not? If there is, I suspect this instance is like the way you boil a frog starting from cold water. Put it in there when it's cold, turn on the heat, gets a little hotter. A little hotter. But still manageable. Still hotter. Hotter still.

 

Next thing you know you're eating boiled frog.

 

I mosy in here from time to time and I see plenty that would get banned in a snap on the main board. So much of the dialogue sinks to mean-spirited and violent in tone that doesn't get banned that mods might be numb to that when just overtly WRONG things that are said are viewed as "just another one of those things allowed in PPP." You advertise the allowance of that deteriorated dialogue as a perk. I fail to see how.

 

I guess you guys just enjoy your boiling water over here.

 

Symptom of the times, I guess.

 

Why are you still here then?  One thing we have down here is that we may despise idiots, bigots and trolls but there is one thing we despise more than all of that.  And that is censorship.  We understand it's a diverse world out there with all sorts of opinions and some of them are very ugly. But it's our "ugly".  

[BeginnersMind]

28 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

He remained on here unbanned and posting for more than half a day after saying he "love(d) killing Haj."

 

All my original comments about this forum as a whole stand. The_Dude may have been forced out eventually because enough people complained about him. Good for those of you who did... but the mods let him stay for... what...?... 14 hours...?

 

That's just a bad look for a subforum of a message board on the whole that will ban posters within minutes of doing incredibly trivial things in comparison to what The_Dude said, yet he remained for more than half a day.

 

You guys don't like me over here. I don't give a crap what some idiot on the Internet thinks of me. It's some of the thoughts as a whole on society, politics, racism, climate, public discourse, etc. from those idiots on the Internet that are troubling.

 

And especially those sympathizing with the positions of racist terrorists.

 

I'm the opposite on the whole of what the most vocal on this subforum seem to be. I'm liberal. I'm progressive. Whatever the hell you want to call it. I do disagree with some of the most liberal stances, but it just doesn't matter here.

 

However, regardless of how much you might dislike me, there's something wrong with the infrastructure here if he was allowed to remain that long after those despicable comments.

 

Which brings me back to my original point. Is there a mod here watching or not? If there is, I suspect this instance is like the way you boil a frog starting from cold water. Put it in there when it's cold, turn on the heat, gets a little hotter. A little hotter. But still manageable. Still hotter. Hotter still.

 

Next thing you know you're eating boiled frog.

 

I mosy in here from time to time and I see plenty that would get banned in a snap on the main board. So much of the dialogue sinks to mean-spirited and violent in tone that doesn't get banned that mods might be numb to that when just overtly WRONG things that are said are viewed as "just another one of those things allowed in PPP." You advertise the allowance of that deteriorated dialogue as a perk. I fail to see how.

 

I guess you guys just enjoy your boiling water over here.

 

Symptom of the times, I guess.

 

Bravo.

[Chef Jim]

6 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Sure, but he confused you with 34 and you are accepting his apology? Weakshit.

 

Personally I don't give a crap.  Doesn't actually make me weak.  Makes me strong. 

[BeginnersMind]

9 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Why are you still here then?  One thing we have down here is that we may despise idiots, bigots and trolls but there is one thing we despise more than all of that.  And that is censorship.  We understand it's a diverse world out there with all sorts of opinions and some of them are very ugly. But it's our "ugly".  

 

No. It’s “your” ugly. And ultimately the mods. 

 

Not mine. 

 

Well done mods. The Dude can play elsewhere. 

[Chef Jim]

4 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

No. It’s “your” ugly. And ultimately the mods. 

 

Not mine. 

 

Well done mods. The Dude can play elsewhere. 

 

My "we" did not include the mods.  Yes they have ultimate control but that doesn't mean we agree with what they say. 

[BringBackOrton]

1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

He remained on here unbanned and posting for more than half a day after saying he "love(d) killing Haj."

 

All my original comments about this forum as a whole stand. The_Dude may have been forced out eventually because enough people complained about him. Good for those of you who did... but the mods let him stay for... what...?... 14 hours...?

 

That's just a bad look for a subforum of a message board on the whole that will ban posters within minutes of doing incredibly trivial things in comparison to what The_Dude said, yet he remained for more than half a day.

 

You guys don't like me over here. I don't give a crap what some idiot on the Internet thinks of me. It's some of the thoughts as a whole on society, politics, racism, climate, public discourse, etc. from those idiots on the Internet that are troubling.

 

And especially those sympathizing with the positions of racist terrorists.

 

I'm the opposite on the whole of what the most vocal on this subforum seem to be. I'm liberal. I'm progressive. Whatever the hell you want to call it. I do disagree with some of the most liberal stances, but it just doesn't matter here.

 

However, regardless of how much you might dislike me, there's something wrong with the infrastructure here if he was allowed to remain that long after those despicable comments.

 

Which brings me back to my original point. Is there a mod here watching or not? If there is, I suspect this instance is like the way you boil a frog starting from cold water. Put it in there when it's cold, turn on the heat, gets a little hotter. A little hotter. But still manageable. Still hotter. Hotter still.

 

Next thing you know you're eating boiled frog.

 

I mosy in here from time to time and I see plenty that would get banned in a snap on the main board. So much of the dialogue sinks to mean-spirited and violent in tone that doesn't get banned that mods might be numb to that when just overtly WRONG things that are said are viewed as "just another one of those things allowed in PPP." You advertise the allowance of that deteriorated dialogue as a perk. I fail to see how.

 

I guess you guys just enjoy your boiling water over here.

 

Symptom of the times, I guess.

I mean, why don't you reach out to SDS instead of grandstanding here?

 

What do you want an average poster to do, besides condemn and ignore?  Should I also post about how good of a person I am?

Edited March 17, 2019 by BringBackOrton