One Bills Live was hilarious today.

[KennyDavisEyes]

12 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

We got mocked by every radio talk guy today. Cowherd, Stephen A, the local LA dudes.  

Nooo

 

not the local LA dudes!

[Nextmanup]

2 hours ago, The Bills Blog said:

Reps from the Bills regularly look at this board, dude. I don't think I have "serious delusions of grandeur."

 

Why do people feel the need to be so mean to each other...

It's the atmosphere of this forum in particular, which is absolutely toxic.

 

I know many Bills fans who religiously stay away from it for that reason alone.

 

I think it comes from the fact that we have been a door mat franchise for most of our existence.  Some fans hate that and are sick of it, others seem strangely welcoming of that fact or even embracing.  You can see the two camps in the posts in this thread alone. 

 

This creates a lot of tension.  On top of that, all fans would probably like to see us win or enjoy some margin of success every once in a while, but we don't get much of that either.

 

So the frustration compounds and the tensions increase more.

 

 

[row_33]

13 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Here come the wannabe administrators

 

It never ends

[Magox]

What's even more hilarious are the overreacting ninny's who care what the media says about the Bills.

[Rico]

3 hours ago, The Bills Blog said:

Reps from the Bills regularly look at this board, dude. I don't think I have "serious delusions of grandeur."

 

Why do people feel the need to be so mean to each other...

He can’t help it, he’s an old dirty b. 

[vorpma]

14 hours ago, The Bills Blog said:

One Bills Live was hilarious today. Despite the strong and widespread reports that AB essentially nixed the trade, Murph and Tasker continued to deny it and scolded every caller who mentioned it. It was embarrassing. Damage control straight from OBD. Clearly trying to control the message. They also claimed that there is not a stigma around Buffalo despite the flogging the city took from the media and NFL players during this ordeal. Interesting that as soon as Bulldog came on, the message was totally different.

I assume this information is from your insider "bat phone" linked into the Front Office and AB's personal study?

[Rico]

40 minutes ago, Magox said:

What's even more hilarious are the overreacting ninny's who care what the media says about the Bills.

Nitwit's gonna nit.

[mannc]

3 hours ago, billieve420 said:

 

Bills should have known that going in that Brown wanted a new deal so it shouldn’t have been a surprise.

 

Brown and his agent have been talking to the media for weeks about his new contract demands.  None of this would have been a surprise to the Bills.   The idea that that’s why the deal died is pure OBD spin, and yet folks here are lapping it up...

[Mark92]

14 hours ago, Doc said:

I can just as easily see Brown nixing the deal (for various reasons) as I can see the Bills nixing it because they didn't want to make him the highest-paid WR.  In the end I'm just glad it didn't happen.

It sounds like it was never that close to happening.  Rapaport must be pissed at his source that gave him that info.  

[Doc]

12 minutes ago, mannc said:

Brown and his agent have been talking to the media for weeks about his new contract demands.  None of this would have been a surprise to the Bills.   The idea that that’s why the deal died is pure OBD spin, and yet folks here are lapping it up...

 

All I could find was Brown saying that he wanted a new deal that gave him guaranteed money (even though he's still got $11.4M left in unamortized bonus with his last Steelers contract).

5 minutes ago, Mark92 said:

It sounds like it was never that close to happening.  Rapaport must be pissed at his source that gave him that info.  

 

Yeah.  And it also sounds like it was never supposed to be made public.  I wonder who the rat who leaked that info was?

[vorpma]

2 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

It's the atmosphere of this forum in particular, which is absolutely toxic.

 

I know many Bills fans who religiously stay away from it for that reason alone.

 

I think it comes from the fact that we have been a door mat franchise for most of our existence.  Some fans hate that and are sick of it, others seem strangely welcoming of that fact or even embracing.  You can see the two camps in the posts in this thread alone. 

 

This creates a lot of tension.  On top of that, all fans would probably like to see us win or enjoy some margin of success every once in a while, but we don't get much of that either.

 

So the frustration compounds and the tensions increase more.

 

 

Really silly post; no one on this board is "strangely welcoming of that fact or even embracing" losing; most of us understand that winning is not going to happen over night and will take time after 16 years of really bad organizational decisions and an ingrained losing culture. Sorry kids, you can throw temper tantrums all day and scream for your fast food happy meal much like what happened from 2001 - 2017; the rest of us want long term sustained success, understand the game and will give this regime a chance. 

[KGun12TD]

That show is dreadful! Poorly produced and Murph should stick to radio...UGH!!!

[bobblehead]

4 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

It's the atmosphere of this forum in particular, which is absolutely toxic.

 

I know many Bills fans who religiously stay away from it for that reason alone.

 

I think it comes from the fact that we have been a door mat franchise for most of our existence.  Some fans hate that and are sick of it, others seem strangely welcoming of that fact or even embracing.  You can see the two camps in the posts in this thread alone. 

 

This creates a lot of tension.  On top of that, all fans would probably like to see us win or enjoy some margin of success every once in a while, but we don't get much of that either.

 

So the frustration compounds and the tensions increase more.

 

 

This is about the closest to accurate description about this place that I’ve read here..  Thank you. 

[billsfan_34]

State run media at its finest! OBD, the Instigators, and the Sabres Broadcasters are Pegula puppets.

[MJS]

I agree that Tasker and Murphy were overzealous. What they don't realize is that there is also no real evidence that Brown did NOT cancel the trade. He very well could have. So it goes both ways.

[cba fan]

16 hours ago, fansince88 said:

If I didnt know any better I would think you didnt like the show to begin with. I listed to 2 hours and your translation of the show couldnt be furether than the truth.

 

then you must not have listened very hard. It was clear PR control most likely ordered from Bills PR staff. It could not have been any more obvious. This show was the only one on any media platform trying to spin this story into something it was not. 

 

 

Edited March 9, 2019 by cba fan

[Doc]

6 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

State run media at its finest! OBD, the Instigators, and the Sabres Broadcasters are Pegula puppets.

 

Yeah but the great thing is this is a free country. You can choose to listen to it or not and choose to follow another team if you want 

[MJS]

4 minutes ago, cba fan said:

then you must not have listened very hard. It was clear PR control most likely ordered from Bills PR staff. It could not have been any more obvious. This show was the only one on any media platform trying to spin this story into something it was not. 

 

Or Murphy and Tasker are just fans of the team and like to spin things positive. Doesn't mean they were ordered to by Pegula.

[fansince88]

36 minutes ago, cba fan said:

then you must not have listened very hard. It was clear PR control most likely ordered from Bills PR staff. It could not have been any more obvious. This show was the only one on any media platform trying to spin this story into something it was not. 

 

 

The two of them totally disagreed with each other. That said, they are owned by the Bills. What would you expect? 

Edited March 9, 2019 by fansince88

[The Bills Blog]

15 minutes ago, fansince88 said:

The two of them totally disagreed with each other. That said, they are owned by the Bills. What would you expect? 

The problem is that they always claim to not be PR or have inside info. They're lying, so we're calling them on it. That's all.

[CookieG]

2 hours ago, vorpma said:

Really silly post; no one on this board is "strangely welcoming of that fact or even embracing" losing; most of us understand that winning is not going to happen over night and will take time after 16 years of really bad organizational decisions and an ingrained losing culture. Sorry kids, you can throw temper tantrums all day and scream for your fast food happy meal much like what happened from 2001 - 2017; the rest of us want long term sustained success, understand the game and will give this regime a chance. 

There aren't enough Brandon Beane talking points in this post. Its close, but a few more can be added.

 

Now, as far as this "long term sustained success" goes,  I'm not sure how trying to trade for a 31 year old wr, and using 20-25% of the available cap space on him is geared toward long term sustained success.

 

The aborted move pretty much goes against everything these two have preached since they got here.  And...it is was type of move that the much hated prior regimes had done. But THIS time it would have been different, because those regimes sucked, and these guys are smart!

 

Antonio Brown saved Beane from himself by saying he'd refuse to report.

 

Let's hope Beane learned something from the experience.  He has so much learning to do, and so little time to learn it.

[BillsSB2020]

2 minutes ago, CookieG said:

There aren't enough Brandon Beane talking points in this post. Its close, but a few more can be added.

 

Now, as far as this "long term sustained success" goes,  I'm not sure how trying to trade for a 31 year old wr, and using 20-25% of the available cap space on him is geared toward long term sustained success.

 

The aborted move pretty much goes against everything these two have preached since they got here.  And...it is was type of move that the much hated prior regimes had done. But THIS time it would have been different, because those regimes sucked, and these guys are smart!

 

Antonio Brown saved Beane from himself by saying he'd refuse to report.

 

Let's hope Beane learned something from the experience.  He has so much learning to do, and so little time to learn it.

Completely disagree. What it showed me was that Beane is WILLING to learn on the job. They would prefer a team full of soup kitchen volunteers, but they're faced with the reality that an infusion of TOP talent is needed. It also demonstrated that they're in win now mode and can't sell the process forever.

 

I have alot more faith in McBeane than I did before the AB situation.

[fansince88]

34 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said:

The problem is that they always claim to not be PR or have inside info. They're lying, so we're calling them on it. That's all.

Ohhhh. Killin it from behind the keyboard! nasty! 

24 minutes ago, CookieG said:

There aren't enough Brandon Beane talking points in this post. Its close, but a few more can be added.

 

Now, as far as this "long term sustained success" goes,  I'm not sure how trying to trade for a 31 year old wr, and using 20-25% of the available cap space on him is geared toward long term sustained success.

 

The aborted move pretty much goes against everything these two have preached since they got here.  And...it is was type of move that the much hated prior regimes had done. But THIS time it would have been different, because those regimes sucked, and these guys are smart!

 

Antonio Brown saved Beane from himself by saying he'd refuse to report.

 

Let's hope Beane learned something from the experience.  He has so much learning to do, and so little time to learn it.

Not doubting you but link? I have heard this espoused on here and FB several times but have yet to see a link. Anyone got proof or is it just hearsay?  

[CookieG]

9 minutes ago, BillsSB2020 said:

Completely disagree. What it showed me was that Beane is WILLING to learn on the job. They would prefer a team full of soup kitchen volunteers, but they're faced with the reality that an infusion of TOP talent is needed. It also demonstrated that they're in win now mode and can't sell the process forever.

 

I have alot more faith in McBeane than I did before the AB situation.

Well, that's a positive spin without simply regurgitating the company line, so I like it. I think there are a few ways to look at it. 

 

I am now, and have been, a firm believer that he should have brought in an offensive guru in the scouting/gm area to engineer the rebuild on this side of the ball.

 

It might be nice that he's willing to throw around a bit of money, but its going to take more than that.

[vorpma]

46 minutes ago, CookieG said:

There aren't enough Brandon Beane talking points in this post. Its close, but a few more can be added.

 

Now, as far as this "long term sustained success" goes,  I'm not sure how trying to trade for a 31 year old wr, and using 20-25% of the available cap space on him is geared toward long term sustained success.

 

The aborted move pretty much goes against everything these two have preached since they got here.  And...it is was type of move that the much hated prior regimes had done. But THIS time it would have been different, because those regimes sucked, and these guys are smart!

 

Antonio Brown saved Beane from himself by saying he'd refuse to report.

 

Let's hope Beane learned something from the experience.  He has so much learning to do, and so little time to learn it.

And not enough negative points in your post; you too must have a well placed inside source or an exclusive hotline to Beane. So many experts to offer critiques and so little time!

[vorpma]

47 minutes ago, BillsSB2020 said:

Completely disagree. What it showed me was that Beane is WILLING to learn on the job. They would prefer a team full of soup kitchen volunteers, but they're faced with the reality that an infusion of TOP talent is needed. It also demonstrated that they're in win now mode and can't sell the process forever.

 

I have alot more faith in McBeane than I did before the AB situation.

Good post - no matter what McDermott and Beane do the "passing fancy fans" will not be happy; many of those screaming for instantaneous results are the same ones the threw temper tantrums throughout the failure of the last 16 years! They want reality TV condensed to a half hour SITCOM and kept very basic.

[CookieG]

23 minutes ago, fansince88 said:

 

Not doubting you but link? I have heard this espoused on here and FB several times but have yet to see a link. Anyone got proof or is it just hearsay?  

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2019/3/8/18256010/reports-buffalo-bills-antonio-brown-trade-to-buffalo-nixed-because-brown-didnt-want-to-go-2019

 

Albert Breer reported it, La Confora reported it. (but who really cares what he reports). I'll take Breer as the more credible source

 

 

 

 

[fansince88]

4 minutes ago, CookieG said:

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2019/3/8/18256010/reports-buffalo-bills-antonio-brown-trade-to-buffalo-nixed-because-brown-didnt-want-to-go-2019

 

Albert Breer reported it, La Confora reported it. (but who really cares what he reports). I'll take Breer as the more credible source

 

 

 

 

Thanks and agree on LAC!

[CookieG]

10 minutes ago, vorpma said:

And not enough negative points in your post; you too must have a well placed inside source or an exclusive hotline to Beane. So many experts to offer critiques and so little time!

Nope, just a long suffering fan who watches other team's flourish as my team gets put into yet another 5 year "rebuilding" plan.

 

But then those who believe those playoff teams are doing it wrong, while we're doing it right, are far smarter than me. It reminds me of the people who would say I was stupid and would regret not getting involved in the Ponzi scheme they were hawking.

 

   

[T master]

Buffalo & the Bills have high character people in & around them both we didn't need some one on the team or in the city that lacks in that respect he's a perfect fit where he went ! I just hope when the Bills play him Hyde or Poyer deliver a really good hit or better yet Edmunds & puts him on the bench !! 

[BIGBOY]

On 3/8/2019 at 7:54 PM, fansince88 said:

If I didnt know any better I would think you didnt like the show to begin with. I listed to 2 hours and your translation of the show couldnt be furether than the truth.

Who cares

 

WHO CARES??? I’ll tell you who cares...those of us that aren’t insulated by the Buffalo Bubble up there in WNY. Us out of Towners that would like to feel a sense of pride when we wear the logo and team colors. Between players quitting in the pre season, retiring at the half, refusing to come here, bills mafia degenerates and years of losing its turned into a symbol of mockery. Of course, I don’t expect you to understand as that is only a comment someone in the buffalo bubble would make. 

Edited March 10, 2019 by BIGBOY

[Maynard]

On 3/9/2019 at 6:36 AM, mannc said:

Brown and his agent have been talking to the media for weeks about his new contract demands.  None of this would have been a surprise to the Bills.   The idea that that’s why the deal died is pure OBD spin, and yet folks here are lapping it up...

Exactly. If it was a surprise to Beane that Brown wanted a new deal that is worrisome. We got left at the alter.....

[Doc]

18 minutes ago, BIGBOY said:

WHO CARES??? I’ll tell you who cares...those of us that aren’t insulated by the Buffalo Bubble up there in WNY. Us out of Towners that would like to feel a sense of pride when we wear the logo and team colors. Between players quitting in the pre season, retiring at the half, refusing to come here, bills mafia degenerates and years of losing its turned into a symbol of mockery. Of course, I don’t expect you to understand as that is only a comment someone in the buffalo bubble would make. 

 

Grow a pair or find a new team. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

10 minutes ago, Maynard said:

Exactly. If it was a surprise to Beane that Brown wanted a new deal that is worrisome. We got left at the alter.....

The ‘alter’ of the facts actually surrounding the details of the negotiations.

[BIGBOY]

Just now, Doc said:

 

Grow a pair or find a new team. 

Grow a pair? It’s not just emotions..the fact that buffalo has a negative public perception IS now hindering the product on the field. But how would you know? You most likely live in Sloan and are stuck in the early 90’s reliving the Kelly era. 

[Doc]

Just now, BIGBOY said:

Grow a pair? It’s not just emotions..the fact that buffalo has a negative public perception IS now hindering the product on the field. But how would you know? You most likely live in Sloan and are stuck in the early 90’s reliving the Kelly era. 

 

LOL!  As they say "it better to be thought a fool..."

[RussellDopeland]

On 3/9/2019 at 12:16 PM, billsfan_34 said:

State run media at its finest! OBD, the Instigators, and the Sabres Broadcasters are Pegula puppets.

It's like Fox News, just without hot chicks.

[BIGBOY]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

LOL!  As they say "it better to be thought a fool..."

 

1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

LOL!  As they say "it better to be thought a fool..."

Bury your head in the sand and keep ignoring the fact that buffalo has a problem attracting players. But hey, I hear some obscure blog just named it the 17th best up and coming city in America ?

[Doc]

28 minutes ago, BIGBOY said:

Bury your head in the sand and keep ignoring the fact that buffalo has a problem attracting players. But hey, I hear some obscure blog just named it the 17th best up and coming city in America ?

 

Buffalo will ALWAYS have a problem attracting players because of the city/location.  If you haven't figured that out by now, and haven't figured out that that's never going to change (like I said earlier) either grow a pair or find another team. 

[BillsSB2020]

6 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Buffalo will ALWAYS have a problem attracting players because of the city/location.  If you haven't figured that out by now, and haven't figured out that that's never going to change (like I said earlier) either grow a pair or find another team. 

It's odd when you see an argument and both parties are more or less in agreement.

 

The draft will ALWAYS be the deciding factor in the Bills success or failure. It is what it is.