JaCrispy Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Just waiting to get the text that we have traded for Clark...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Is Air Pegula in the PNW yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufridr101 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Kansas city is also interested in Clark. Swapping 1st rounders probably not what Seattle wants. They want to accumulate more picks, in fact the general manager said 4 more picks. 3rd 4th 5th rounders probably enough compensation for a player that needs to be resigned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Rufridr101 said: Kansas city is also interested in Clark. Swapping 1st rounders probably not what Seattle wants. They want to accumulate more picks, in fact the general manager said 4 more picks. 3rd 4th 5th rounders probably enough compensation for a player that needs to be resigned. I think this also directly affects what they do with Shaq Lawson If we can keep from giving up our 9.......yes please It would be nice to give up a 2nd and a later pick...then do a trade down (slightly) that gives us an additional 2nd.....then go BPA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I think this also directly affects what they do with Shaq Lawson If we can keep from giving up our 9.......yes please It would be nice to give up a 2nd and a later pick...then do a trade down (slightly) that gives us an additional 2nd.....then go BPA IMO: Swapping firsts and giving extra day 3 picks is way better than giving up our second this year which is way to valuable. I’d still make the trade if it took our 2nd, but trade down and still having both a first and a 2nd is substantially more valuable than just holding 9 and not having a 2nd round pick. This is a deep draft at a number of places we could use more talent at. Swap with them and send a fourth and 5th round pick for instance. Then we pick up a DT, WR, TE and RB in first 4 picks in no particular order. For example: Simmons DT, Harry WR, Sanders RB, and Oliver TE for instance to go with Clark DE would be one helluva haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Isn’t this guy a scumbag who will need a big contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toesy Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Yes he is-IMO that is why teams are hesitant-the guy is a top level talent for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 1 hour ago, rayray808 said: how do we pull off this trade while keeping the 9th pick? No way we give up this years #9 pick its way too valuable. Id like to see a 2nd and Shaq Lawson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, wppete said: No way we give up this years #9 pick its way too valuable. Id like to see a 2nd and Shaq Lawson. The 49ers gave up a 2nd in 2020 for Dee Ford who put up similar numbers to Clark. I say that's the best I give Seattle as not sure we want to pay him $20 million a year he's going to want as a salary. Edited April 16, 2019 by The Jokeman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: The 49ers gave up a 2nd in 2020 for Dee Ford who put up similar numbers to Clark. I say that's the best I give Seattle as not sure we want to pay him $20 million a year he's going to want as a salary. How about we just sit at #9 and draft either Ed Oliver, Montez Sweat or Rashan Gary for some pass rush. Save our valuable draft picks and the valuable money we will save ($20m) and spend it JUDICIOUSLY as Beane says. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Sea has a 1, 3, 4 and a 5 this year...I'd be ok with a swap of 1's and maybe throw in a 5th and a 7th round this year...But I won't give up a 2nd this year with a swap of 1's and have to save your teams poor salary management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, wppete said: How about we just sit at #9 and draft either Ed Oliver, Montez Sweat or Rashan Gary for some pass rush. Save our valuable draft picks and the valuable money we will save ($20m) and spend it JUDICIOUSLY as Beane says. Because we pretty much have a 4 year window to sign big contract players for a title run before Josh Allen needs to get paid...furthermore, we would be paying Clark because he has proven he can play in the NFL...draft picks are a crap chute. Edited April 16, 2019 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Because we pretty much have a 4 year window to sign big contract players for a title run before Josh Allen needs to get paid...furthermore, we would be paying Clark because he has proven he can play in the NFL...draft picks are a crap chute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: Not sure, but are you laughing at the idea of the Bills trying to compete for a championship? ? Asking for a friend... Edited April 16, 2019 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 I'm not sure enough people here really understand how good Frank Clark is. He's really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 1 minute ago, JaCrispy said: Not sure, but are you laughing at the idea of the Bills trying to compete for a title? Asking for a friend... I sure am. They are YEARS away from competing for an AFC East title, let alone a Super Bowl title. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: I sure am. They are YEARS away from competing for an AFC East title, let alone a Super Bowl title. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: I sure am. They are YEARS away from competing for an AFC East title, let alone a Super Bowl title. Not so sure about that long for division title...title contenders might take them 2-3 years imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 32 minutes ago, Tsaikotic said: Sea has a 1, 3, 4 and a 5 this year...I'd be ok with a swap of 1's and maybe throw in a 5th and a 7th round this year...But I won't give up a 2nd this year with a swap of 1's and have to save your teams poor salary management To me you try to trade back into the teens with someone and pick up an extra 2nd and 3rd or 4th depending on who it is. If it is the Giants from 17 for instance, you should garner a 2nd and a 3rd. They'd over pay slightly but to me it's worth it. To pick at 17 then have all those extra picks and then give the Seahawks what they need to get pick 21. Then you make the trade for pick 21. To get the teens pick, the pick at 21 and still have a 2nd and 3rd rounder but also giving up an our original 2nd and 3rd rounders = winning. Pick 21 = 800 pts Pick 40 = 500 Pick 74 = 220 Pick 112 = 70 Pick 158 = 27 That should get it done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamkrgr Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 So Frank Clark or Jadaveon Clowney assuming the acquisition cost and contract is similar? Give me either tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, NewEraBills said: To me you try to trade back into the teens with someone and pick up an extra 2nd and 3rd or 4th depending on who it is. If it is the Giants from 17 for instance, you should garner a 2nd and a 3rd. They'd over pay slightly but to me it's worth it. To pick at 17 then have all those extra picks and then give the Seahawks what they need to get pick 21. Then you make the trade for pick 21. To get the teens pick, the pick at 21 and still have a 2nd and 3rd rounder but also giving up an our original 2nd and 3rd rounders = winning. Pick 21 = 800 pts Pick 40 = 500 Pick 74 = 220 Pick 112 = 70 Pick 158 = 27 That should get it done. ah..so your looking at trading down first with someone in the teens then give Sea a call and offer but still keep picks in every round almost...I could see that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Iamkrgr said: So Frank Clark or Jadaveon Clowney assuming the acquisition cost and contract is similar? Give me either tbh. Are you ok with paying either of them $100+ million over 4 or 5 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufridr101 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Cornette's Commentary said: Are you ok with paying either of them $100+ million over 4 or 5 years? Definitely not often injured clowney. What do you think Hughes will want next year? That's why I think if they trade for Clark Hughes will be traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: I sure am. They are YEARS away from competing for an AFC East title, let alone a Super Bowl title. Check out this ^^ guy. He thinks we're talking about the Sabres. Wrong forum, buddy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tsaikotic said: ah..so your looking at trading down first with someone in the teens then give Sea a call and offer but still keep picks in every round almost...I could see that Yep. Trade down so we can then trade with Seattle but still have 2nd and 3rd round picks once we deal our original picks to the Hawks or even the Ravens just one pick later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, NewEraBills said: Yep. Trade down so we can then trade with Seattle but still have 2nd and 3rd round picks once we deal our original picks to the Hawks or even the Ravens just one pick later. ok then call Tampa and send them a 4th or 5th for McCoy for a line of: Clark - Star - McCoy - Hughes Edited April 16, 2019 by Tsaikotic 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: I sure am. They are YEARS away from competing for an AFC East title, let alone a Super Bowl title. You’re on a historical run of awful posts. 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: Are you ok with paying either of them $100+ million over 4 or 5 years? I’m ok giving Clark 5yrs/$100 million ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Again, what happened to character? 4 minutes ago, Tsaikotic said: ok then call Tampa and send them a 4th or 5th for McCoy for a line of: Clark - Star - McCoy - Hughes Why in the world would TB do that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Just now, JaCrispy said: I’m ok giving Clark 5yrs/$100 million ? Remember what happened when they gave Mario 6 years, $100+ million? How many playoff appearances did he bring us? How many games did he just check out and not care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 22 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: I sure am. They are YEARS away from competing for an AFC East title, let alone a Super Bowl title. you don't say. so, how far off are they there, cornette? another 17 years? longer?" so what is a cornette, a female name or the name of an automobile? just curious is all by the way, cornette. I really have to disagree with your post, totally disagree but I kind of like your name, for an automobile or maybe a great aunt or something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Just now, Cornette's Commentary said: Remember what happened when they gave Mario 6 years, $100+ million? How many playoff appearances did he bring us? How many games did he just check out and not care? And who was our qb at the time...plus not all players have a soft work ethic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Just now, Cornette's Commentary said: Remember what happened when they gave Mario 6 years, $100+ million? How many playoff appearances did he bring us? How many games did he just check out and not care? I don’t think that’s fair. Mario and the defense won a game against Aaron Rodgers, where our offense didn’t score a td. He was amazing for a few years and worth every penny. Our offense just sucked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Again, what happened to character? Why in the world would TB do that? lol..I dont know...Im just being a monkey and flinging crap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tsaikotic said: ok then call Tampa and send them a 4th or 5th for McCoy for a line of: Clark - Star - McCoy - Hughes LOL wrong direction. Maybe trade up would have been better language. But it still creates the same ambiguity. Which direction are we going? LOL, THAT WAY. How about just trade into the Teens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Just now, Tsaikotic said: lol..I dont know...Im just being a monkey and flinging crap I mean, hell, I hope you’re right. Just do it like Madden and offer the worst trade possible until they accept one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I don’t think that’s fair. Mario and the defense won a game against Aaron Rodgers, where our offense didn’t score a td. He was amazing for a few years and worth every penny. Our offense just sucked. The Bills won that game for two reasons. 1.) Jordy Nelson dropped a guaranteed touchdown pass early on that would have given them a lead that would have lasted the rest of the game 2.) A late injury forced JC Tretter to step in and try to block Mario, a task at which he failed spectacularly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: The Bills won that game for two reasons. 1.) Jordy Nelson dropped a guaranteed touchdown pass early on that would have given them a lead that would have lasted the rest of the game 2.) A late injury forced JC Tretter to step in and try to block Mario, a task at which he failed spectacularly. so really it was a loss to you, but they still won, right. I've seen negativity cornette but you're taking it to another level with these posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Just now, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: so really it was a loss to you, but they still won, right. I've seen negativity cornette but you're taking it to another level with these posts. Its defintely the heel version we got here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: The Bills won that game for two reasons. 1.) Jordy Nelson dropped a guaranteed touchdown pass early on that would have given them a lead that would have lasted the rest of the game 2.) A late injury forced JC Tretter to step in and try to block Mario, a task at which he failed spectacularly. #1 is incredibly ignorant, but even given the small sample size of comments we have from you, it's on brand. Nitpicking things that happen early in the game is a complete waste of time. Oh, you mean there was a football play that happened in a football game?! Why not list all of the cut backs RBs should have made that would have resulted in TD runs? Or identify each play where a defender advancing on the QB was held and there was no holding call given. For that matter, you can identify all the missed reads a QB makes and say "well so-and-so missed seeing the WR who had a step on his guy, so there's another 7 pts lost." Beyond that, you note that had a score been made, it "would have lasted for the rest of the game." I'm just going to let the ignorance of that comment sit there ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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