Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 27 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: The difference is Antonio Brown is the best player at his position or second best and Kap was league average. Antonio Brown is a complete jackass for the record. If keap was the Antonio Brown of QBs, most NFL GMs would’ve been on their knees. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Y'all just shitting on the guy for no big reason. Has any teammate called him out yet? Not to my knowledge. Doesn't that say sthing about him as a teammate? The guy was treated badly by his QB and his coach. He wants out. The smart strategy (from his POV) is to make it difficult to trade him so that the Steelers release him and he can determine his own destiny. He doesn't want other teams to make a fair offer to the Steelers. Why become a Carmelo Anthony and undermine the team he wishes to join by having them pay an arm and a leg? From all accounts he is hardworking and helps people around him get better (like Juju). The only 2 knocks on him have been a. He was late to some meetings and b. He filmed a locker room talk. If he was as bad as y'all make him out to be, wouldn't he have been released ages ago? Most star players have way more indiscretions. For sure. Sounds like most have no idea how much star player actions get swept under the rug to keep their assets shiny and expensive if they feel the need to cut bait. We have NO IDEA what goes on with the star athletes in the NFL. I can only guess, but I think he's intentionally lowering his cost to leave the Steelers. He's doing want he can to get out. Of course he is a total eccentric.. and can be charismatic on television to the point where he's a little to open of a book about himself. But dude wants out is really all I see happening. Seriously doubt he goes to the Bills so I don't get the furor over another star receiver doing typical star WR diva stuff. The position is like that because the players truly are (literally) distanced from their teammates in most plays from the game in a dogfight with the corner. They interact more with the opposing CB than they do their teammates on the field. That's their job, and they typically get the habit of coming off as selfish because their position is one of the most individual efforts in football. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 27 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I mean he ain't Norman Mailer but I don't think it's a problem of eloquence for me...I have a buddy who speaks nearly the same when he's discussing an issue of significant personal importance. Brown doesn't really do interviews like that and he looked nervous and upset. Agree on the sensitive part...we're talking about a guy who went from a 6th round pick to the best WR in the game and then had basically his entire organization turn their backs on him. So while I think it's fair to assign some (maybe the majority) of the blame to Brown, it's not like he doesn't have cause to be upset with the situation and I'd suggest the concurrent Le'Veon Bell disaster lends some credibility to his (Brown's) side of the story. I agree that he likely has some legit reasons for being upset. He is however making it worse and not helping himself. I left the company I previously worked for 12 years ago for a lot of the same reasons. It angered me but it would have hurt me in the industry I'm in if I made all of my frustrations known. I am aware that players are under contract and can't just leave - so it's not a parallel in many of our lives. However, at this point, he'd be better serving himself by letting his agent handle the trade and him giving generic answers. Something like: "It became a situation that I no longer wanted to accept. At this point, I don't need to defend my decision. I will discuss it with the team I'm traded to or if the Steelers give my agent permission, I will discuss with a team interested in me. I met with the Steelers and it was made clear, evidenced by the GM, that my issues will not be addressed. I no longer want to play for the Steelers and I'm looking forward to proving to my new team that I'm a person to rely on. I've worked too hard to let the Steelers organization control the narrative on who and what I am." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madd Charlie Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) Ok some WR turned his mustache a different color and had something to say outside of what you would prefer to hear (gasp). The great news is most of us will ever have this problem because we won't be managing a team or playing for one in the NFL. The one interesting thing about this to me is just being able to see how offended people get when someone questions authority or does something outside of status quo. We were each born with the ability to choose our path and live with the consequences of those decisions which means we can be different or talk different or wear yellow mustaches if we want. Just get ready for the flock to try to drag you right back in or pay the consequences. Edited March 4, 2019 by Madd Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 32 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: If keap was the Antonio Brown of QBs, most NFL GMs would’ve been on their knees. Absolutely lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Humble he is not but it sounds like he has a yearning for some process love. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, GoBills808 said: I mean he ain't Norman Mailer but I don't think it's a problem of eloquence for me...I have a buddy who speaks nearly the same when he's discussing an issue of significant personal importance. Brown doesn't really do interviews like that and he looked nervous and upset. Agree on the sensitive part...we're talking about a guy who went from a 6th round pick to the best WR in the game and then had basically his entire organization turn their backs on him. So while I think it's fair to assign some (maybe the majority) of the blame to Brown, it's not like he doesn't have cause to be upset with the situation and I'd suggest the concurrent Le'Veon Bell disaster lends some credibility to his (Brown's) side of the story. Can you please explain to me how the entire organization turned their backs on him? Was it the $68 million contract or just the $19 million guaranteed part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I totally get him popping off on Ben and the GM. They both sent him under not a bus, but a tank. Why is no one saying "Fug Big Ben..there is no place for calling out teammates" That Steeler locker room is a mess. Let's not forget they had OL in the beginning of year talking trash on Bell for what he is making.. and, what is the saying those guys love" you dont talk about other peoples money"..just a mess there by all indications. I would take AB all day and twice on Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Seems he is turning into ocho cinco part deux . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Ultimately this comes down to Brown not wanting to deal with Big Ben anymore. I'm fine with that. I wouldn't mind having him, but the real issue to me is Brown's age. He's getting older, he's no longer in his prime. I don't want to pay top dollar PLUS draft picks for someone on the decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 If he becomes a Bill, I will embrace him, and love him, just as I have all players when they have worn a Bills uniform (except for Nate Peterman, of course). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 22 minutes ago, Gugny said: Can you please explain to me how the entire organization turned their backs on him? Was it the $68 million contract or just the $19 million guaranteed part? He earned every nickel of that contract. I don’t think the fact that the Steelers were willing to pay for All Pro production is proof they were in his corner. My issue is how Brown gets the shaft from Roethlisberger in public (nobody gets to criticize Big Ben), they make JJSS the focus of the pass game once they’re upset with Brown (to the detriment of the team imo), and allow the media fixation on his off field transgressions to be the narrative instead of acknowledging how important he’s been to that organization since he laced up for them in 2011. He gets painted as the bad guy in all this which is understandable to a degree, but all you get from Rooney/Tomlin is ‘well his time here has run its course’ with no mention of how he’s been their best player hands down for the better part of a decade...that’s what I mean by turn their backs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) By a rather strange coincidence we don't need him either. Should he call just tell him you have to much laundry to do this week. Edited March 4, 2019 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Beane’s comments when asked at the combine about AB suggest to me that they want nothing to do with this mess. He's just another WR pre madonna diva who can't stop mouthing off. Somebody in his posse might want to remind him he knowe's on the wrong side of 30. The Bills won't touch him as he is a pariah to the league now. Just keep trolling the Steelers AB and let me know how that works out? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: He earned every nickel of that contract. I don’t think the fact that the Steelers were willing to pay for All Pro production is proof they were in his corner. My issue is how Brown gets the shaft from Roethlisberger in public (nobody gets to criticize Big Ben), they make JJSS the focus of the pass game once they’re upset with Brown (to the detriment of the team imo), and allow the media fixation on his off field transgressions to be the narrative instead of acknowledging how important he’s been to that organization since he laced up for them in 2011. He gets painted as the bad guy in all this which is understandable to a degree, but all you get from Rooney/Tomlin is ‘well his time here has run its course’ with no mention of how he’s been their best player hands down for the better part of a decade...that’s what I mean by turn their backs. I will respectfully disagree. They gave him the contract; he signed it, then proceeded to be an unnecessary distraction and ultimately quit on his team. I don't think the Steelers turned their backs. He got his paychecks. If anything, he turned his back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Gugny said: I will respectfully disagree. They gave him the contract; he signed it, then proceeded to be an unnecessary distraction and ultimately quit on his team. I don't think the Steelers turned their backs. He got his paychecks. If anything, he turned his back. How dare you respectfully disagree with me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Anyone who states that "you're going to play by my rules" will not be on the Bills and a lot of other teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigs Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 It may be different today, but to claim it was never like this is a fallacy. Guys like Bruce and Jimbo were about the money too. The NFLPA has striked many times in the past for more money. I think the glory days were long gone before most of us were born Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 4 hours ago, Gugny said: How'd that work for Kaep? I really don't think he (or anyone) should be blacklisted. It was a tongue-in-cheek comment made in order to make a point. If he says he doesn't need the NFL because he's such a wonderful entrepreneur, then I'd like to see the NFL call his bluff. Far better than if he actually had to play for that paycheck, actually. His cynical "protest actions" made him mucho cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Gugny said: Listening to him talk, I feel like he's one of the most stupid people alive. This is the kind of guy who should be blacklisted. I get the same thing- his speech is horrible. We may see him on “Where are they Now” in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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