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54 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

But you dont need it either..charity maybe?

 

Apparently we have different definitions of “need”. 

 

I’m all for charity, and hope to have enough money that I can buy my way into heaven....I’m thinking it’s my only shot to avoid being separated from my wife down the road.....

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42 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

NFL contracts are NOT guaranteed.

 

No they are NOT for a lot of players not make effort if not in mood.

18 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Apparently we have different definitions of “need”. 

 

I’m all for charity, and hope to have enough money that I can buy my way into heaven....I’m thinking it’s my only shot to avoid being separated from my wife down the road.....

 

Maybe you need to have your wife do some bad and/or naughty things like kneeling that way you can meet in purgatory.

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Most of Brown's salary is guaranteed for the next 2 years, so it's unlikely that what he blabs about in the offseason will cost him a dime. What's more likely is that he drives down his trade value, thereby screwing over the Steelers & possibly forcing them to trade him to a better team (with a later draft pick).  It could be pure genius.

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2 hours ago, Buffalo86 said:

Most of Brown's salary is guaranteed for the next 2 years, so it's unlikely that what he blabs about in the offseason will cost him a dime. What's more likely is that he drives down his trade value, thereby screwing over the Steelers & possibly forcing them to trade him to a better team (with a later draft pick).  It could be pure genius.

his contract has virtually NO guaranteed money save for a 2.5 mill roster bonus for 2019. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/antonio-brown-6702/

 

That is why he is all out there stating he needs guaranteed money to move to new team. IE : he wants and demands new deal, and wants market rate.

 

Right now team receiving him in a trade is only on the hook for 2.5 million guaranteed in 1st year and nothing guaranteed for year 2 and 3.

 

I still think his end game is to refuse to report to new team and force a release.

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4 minutes ago, cba fan said:

his contract has virtually NO guaranteed money save for a 2.5 mill roster bonus for 2019. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/antonio-brown-6702/

 

That is why he is all out there stating he needs guaranteed money to move to new team. IE : he wants and demands new deal, and wants market rate.

 

Right now team receiving him in a trade is only on the hook for 2.5 million guaranteed in 1st year and nothing guaranteed for year 2 and 3.

 

I still think his end game is to refuse to report to new team and force a release.

 

My bad; I think I was looking at dead cap. :D  

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Sounds like he's just saying he's proud of what he's done and (being cryptic) doesn't have anything to prove to people anymore. Doesn't need to keep playing. But he really wants to.

 

Tons of players who have accomplished as much will say this in a less eccentric way in the midlife crisis of their career. Dude just went kind of Kanye West on this whole interview is all.

 

Also I'd wager he's pulling strings on how he's going to escape this Steelers mess.  Boy's gonna one up LeVeon

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7 hours ago, BillsSB2020 said:

So we don't like capitalism? I have no problem with a player maximizing their bank account. They play a game that can severely impact one's quality of life down the road.

I felt the same way about how I saw LeVeon approach free agency. He REALLY wanted to hit the market with as best value as possible.

 

... And the Steelers probably could have used him and he could have gotten some easy dough but no way with half that team throwing him under the bus over 10 weeks including OL.. virtually unprecedented for players to spite a teammate looking for money.

 

Could have used Brown if they coddled him a bit (you KNOW other franchises would move heaven and Earth over there). It's the culture of Big Ben in that town and Brown found it hella annoying.

 

Now they're probably going to suck haha 

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20 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

The guy was treated badly by his QB and his coach. He wants out. 

 

 

 

Treated badly by his QB??  His QB created him out of a 6th round pick.

 

His next QB won't be nearly as good to AB in that regard as Ben was.  Look for AB to publicly crap on his next QB for not providing him with endless 1200+ seasons...

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1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Treated badly by his QB??  His QB created him out of a 6th round pick.

 

His next QB won't be nearly as good to AB in that regard as Ben was.  Look for AB to publicly crap on his next QB for not providing him with endless 1200+ seasons...

 

I'm with you he forgets that it's not just him that it's all about put him in a offense with Bortels as his QB & see where  he's at after a couple of seasons ! I personally hope that is what happens to him to humble his arrogant ass a bit then maybe he will realize just how good he had it with Ben throwing him the ball .

 

I think it comes from always being the guy as a young person then the time comes that the other guy that is as good or better than you comes along like Ju Ju & you have to become the really good number 2 & you cry & whine about it rather than being a team guy & here they are ...

 

While reading this article it's a given that he ain't coming to B/Lo the last verse says it all & i for one am really glad for it !! 

 

Just read the very last paragraph that will tell us all we need to know about what McD thinks !! 

 

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2019/3/5/18248908/brandon-beane-sean-mcdermott-no-place-for-no-1-wide-receiver-nfl-2019-buffalo-bills-head-coach 

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59 minutes ago, Bills2ref said:

If these guys aren’t going to honor a multi-year deal, why sign it? Why doesn’t AB just go one year contract to one year contract?

that is basically what he has right now. Next 3 years are basically non guaranteed.

 

Put up or shut up Brown time. 

 

Since he is such a Magic Johnson type entrepreneur he could just take a few of the millions he saved and buy a string of vary safe money making franchises like McDonalds, Starbucks, Jimmy Johns, Movie theatres, Microbreweries, mustache coloring boutiques, etc etc...and toss in some large apartment complexes....and he will be just fine, starting that up with no debt is the key to profiting handsomely from franchises and property holdings.

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3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

Treated badly by his QB??  His QB created him out of a 6th round pick.

I hate this take. AB created AB. And being a 6th round pick doesn't matter when the camp battles start. It clearly wasn't a problem for AB to rise from a stacked WR group including Hines Ward, Emanuel Sanders (picked in the same draft as AB.. where is he on the Steelers?), and Mike Wallace. Big Ben clearly didn't make the other receivers as good as AB who the Steelers recognized as their priority at receiver while letting the others go.

 

Terrelle Owens was a late(ish) draft pick that wasn't made by Steve Young. If anything he made Jeff Garcia relevant and went on to have great production with every quarterback he had in his prime.

 

Yes Ben force feeds his primary WRs. But the Steelers are the best in the business at getting WRs through the draft. Sanders is still productive. Mike Wallace was pretty overrated but has certainly had a few seasons at almost the same clip the he had in his 2 productive years with the Steelers. Ward simply retired, but got plenty of production without Ben. Plaxico Burress wasn't made by Ben (I don't even think their time at the Steelers coincided), and he had just as good seasons with the Giants as a primary (and a absolutely remarkable playoff performance to a SB win) as he did with the Steelers. They draft great WRs.. and they have a good QB. That's all there is to AB, great WR and a great QB.

 

Really there's just Santonio Holmes who has a very unremarkable career with one good Big Ben season. That's "making a WR". no quarterback makes a WR with 6 consecutive 1200 yard seasons.

 

JuJu is a good WR in his own right. Ben isn't throwing him 1400 if he's not a good WR. Like.. honestly how does a 6th round pick being successful mean the quarterback made him? lol. He beat out first and second rounders on a roster and was the last standing with a fat contract. I bet AB does fine. He won't be force fed (as much.. maybe) like in Pittsburgh but he certainly will get his season production reduced by at most 200 yards from any Big Ben season with like any top 20 of the 32 quarterbacks in the league.

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4 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said:

I hate this take. AB created AB. And being a 6th round pick doesn't matter when the camp battles start. It clearly wasn't a problem for AB to rise from a stacked WR group including Hines Ward, Emanuel Sanders (picked in the same draft as AB.. where is he on the Steelers?), and Mike Wallace. Big Ben clearly didn't make the other receivers as good as AB who the Steelers recognized as their priority at receiver while letting the others go.

 

Terrelle Owens was a late(ish) draft pick that wasn't made by Steve Young. If anything he made Jeff Garcia relevant and went on to have great production with every quarterback he had in his prime.

 

Yes Ben force feeds his primary WRs. But the Steelers are the best in the business at getting WRs through the draft. Sanders is still productive. Mike Wallace was pretty overrated but has certainly had a few seasons at almost the same clip the he had in his 2 productive years with the Steelers. Ward simply retired, but got plenty of production without Ben. Plaxico Burress wasn't made by Ben (I don't even think their time at the Steelers coincided), and he had just as good seasons with the Giants as a primary (and a absolutely remarkable playoff performance to a SB win) as he did with the Steelers. They draft great WRs.. and they have a good QB. That's all there is to AB, great WR and a great QB.

 

Really there's just Santonio Holmes who has a very unremarkable career with one good Big Ben season. That's "making a WR". no quarterback makes a WR with 6 consecutive 1200 yard seasons.

 

JuJu is a good WR in his own right. Ben isn't throwing him 1400 if he's not a good WR. Like.. honestly how does a 6th round pick being successful mean the quarterback made him? lol. He beat out first and second rounders on a roster and was the last standing with a fat contract. I bet AB does fine. He won't be force fed (as much.. maybe) like in Pittsburgh but he certainly will get his season production reduced by at most 200 yards from any Big Ben season with like any top 20 of the 32 quarterbacks in the league.

 

 

You could have missed the point with far fewer words.

 

Big Ben did nothing to harm poor AB except throw him a million passes.  Now he will toss those to Juju.  AB will be looking back from his next locker room and wondering where all his yards went.

 

 

AB is a great WR, but he may never have it as good as the place he has misbehaved out of.  That was the point....

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The guy has lost his mind.   Personally I think he is a little over rated too.  Is he talented?  Yes  But he also benefits from having a QB that matches his style.  he likely wont put up the numbers he has in the past on a new team.  I stay away from the clown.

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16 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

You could have missed the point with far fewer words.

 

Big Ben did nothing to harm poor AB except throw him a million passes.  Now he will toss those to Juju.  AB will be looking back from his next locker room and wondering where all his yards went.

 

 

AB is a great WR, but he may never have it as good as the place he has misbehaved out of.  That was the point....

Eh I have fun on Pro Football Reference. Well it's easy to miss the point when you say Ben "created [AB] out of a 6th round pick."... WHEN WHAT YOU MEANT TO EXPRESS your point is he's a great WR on his own accord that may get less production from other quarterbacks.

 

AB prefers more respect from his quarterback. I'm sure there's plenty that can toss up 1200 (if they're not forcing to AB, their doing it wrong), while appreciating him.

 

I like AB's quote about how he wants criticism, thrives off of it.. but not when given criticism in the media than privately in house than after a loss. I'm sure there's 31 quarterbacks that don't do that sort of thing.. and 20 that can give him a respectable clip no more than 200 below what he's getting now. Whatever. we'll see how he does. I find it hard to imagine he doesn't have a TO career where he really gets production out of most any quarterbacks.

 

Total nutcase tho. Whatever. Just don't pull a fast one on week 17 and you do you AB.

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28 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said:

Eh I have fun on Pro Football Reference. Well it's easy to miss the point when you say Ben "created [AB] out of a 6th round pick."... WHEN WHAT YOU MEANT TO EXPRESS your point is he's a great WR on his own accord that may get less production from other quarterbacks.

 

AB prefers more respect from his quarterback. I'm sure there's plenty that can toss up 1200 (if they're not forcing to AB, their doing it wrong), while appreciating him.

 

I like AB's quote about how he wants criticism, thrives off of it.. but not when given criticism in the media than privately in house than after a loss. I'm sure there's 31 quarterbacks that don't do that sort of thing.. and 20 that can give him a respectable clip no more than 200 below what he's getting now. Whatever. we'll see how he does. I find it hard to imagine he doesn't have a TO career where he really gets production out of most any quarterbacks.

 

Total nutcase tho. Whatever. Just don't pull a fast one on week 17 and you do you AB.

 

Yeah, AB does fine with criticism.  Ask his HC how he does.  Wait, we all know--he storms off and doesn't answer the HC's phone calls. 

 

The guy's a baby.  A great receiver who has seen his best days end now that he has walked away from his meany of a QB (and quit on his team).

 

Brady screams at his team mates right on the TV all day every Sunday.  Haven't seen one curl up and quit yet.

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This guy is an idiot claiming he's algebra , the answer to everyones problem. Doing an interview in your opulent mansion with your stupid  hair and gold mustache trying to look smart. All you're doing is driving your price down because who wants to deal with your delusion on their team. Good luck dumb ass.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Yeah, AB does fine with criticism.  Ask his HC how he does.  Wait, we all know--he storms off and doesn't answer the HC's phone calls. 

 

The guy's a baby.  A great receiver who has seen his best days end now that he has walked away from his meany of a QB (and quit on his team).

 

 Brady screams at his team mates right on the TV all day every Sunday.  Haven't seen one curl up and quit yet.

Brady doesn't call his team mates out in PCs. He does it in the game, which is totally fine. Certainly practice as well.. Brown can take that. It's the PCs. Brown cites his "ownership" mentality. Dude has too much control.

 

Brown totally f***** up with that last episode. But not 2 weeks earlier did Big Ben tank a game against the Raiders by not playing the 3rd quarter for some injury only to go back in the 4th perfectly healthy to lob up a touchdown as they lost the friggin Raiders.

 

Roethlisberger took a big hit on a sack late in the second quarter. Dobbs took the field for the Steelers to start the second half. Roethlisberger later emerged from the locker room with his helmet, but he did not re-enter the game until the Steelers fell behind, 17-14, with 5:20 remaining in regulation. After returning, he led the Steelers down the field and threw a go-ahead touchdown to JuJu Smith-Schuster with 2:55 remaining.

The Raiders answered with a score of their own, and the Steelers lost, 24-21

 

Does NO ONE remember this?? I'd get out of that situation in a hot minute. Is that not Ben also quitting on his team?

 

He's a baby and a great WR.. He wants to go somewhere else. Who cares, he'll do perfectly fine. I just don't think he owes Ben jack honestly. The dude is a dog**** leader. "I've earned the right to throw teammates under the bus. I'm the captain"

 

Once again, Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger threw a teammate under the bus for what he felt was a contributing factor to his team losing a game.

This time the target of Big Ben’s scorn was wide James Washington for dropping an easy touchdown pass in the Steelers’ loss to the Broncos.

Ben Roethlisberger after every Steelers loss that was his fault pic.twitter.com/ILjpAGaMm9

— ✭Boss Universal✭ (@JesseGladsaget) November 27, 2018

 

In defending himself after being criticized for being a bad teammate, which he kind of is, Roethlisberger said he has “earned the right” to throw other players on the team under the bus because he’s the captain.

One player who knows all about being Ben Roethlisberger’s teammate is current Bronco Emmanuel Sanders who caught passes from the QB from 2010 to 2013 before signing with Denver.

 

During his appearance on The Rich Eisen Show on Wednesday, Sanders talked about what he would do if it were him that Ben was throwing under the bus.

“If I was in that locker room, that wouldn’t sit well with me because that’s a situation that I feel like you handle in-house instead of talking about it. Obviously he’s the leader of that team, he’s the quarterback of that team and everybody looks to him to lead. So in doing that, in going to the media and saying those things, I definitely would pull him to the side and be like ‘hey man, if you have a problem with anything I do on the field, I would rather you talk to me in person about it than talk talk about it on the radio, because there’s ways to avoid that,'” Sanders told Eisen.

“Obviously, his emotions are probably running high after the loss and the interceptions and all that stuff… still, some things you keep in house, and Ben knows that.”

You mean this interception?

PICKED!

Wowwwwwww.

?: CBS #BroncosCountry pic.twitter.com/hHxU7Ww5cR

— NFL (@NFL) November 26, 2018

 

Eh, I’m sure that was all the receiver’s fault too.

 

 
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I dont agree.  He has done alot dumb stuff the past 2 month.  Imo alot of that was to force the hand and get out of Pittsburgh.  In terms of antics? What would TO have done in Philly? Similar situation.  TO was the harder worker, McNabb was the anointed leader.  If social media was around then he would have burnt the internet to the ground.  His entire career teammates love To.  I think Brown is in a similar situation.  I think Brown will want to be productive and is prideful to play inspite of Pittsburgh as motivation.  Depending on the asking price i think Brown is traded for a second or thrid.  I had the notion earlier and still believe Buffalo could nab Brown for a swap of 1s.  Get Brown, keep the same number of picks, and move to place in the first rd where it meets your needs better.  

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6 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

I dont agree.  He has done alot dumb stuff the past 2 month.  Imo alot of that was to force the hand and get out of Pittsburgh.  In terms of antics? What would TO have done in Philly? Similar situation.  TO was the harder worker, McNabb was the anointed leader.  If social media was around then he would have burnt the internet to the ground.  His entire career teammates love To.  I think Brown is in a similar situation.  I think Brown will want to be productive and is prideful to play inspite of Pittsburgh as motivation.  Depending on the asking price i think Brown is traded for a second or thrid.  I had the notion earlier and still believe Buffalo could nab Brown for a swap of 1s.  Get Brown, keep the same number of picks, and move to place in the first rd where it meets your needs better.  

We always blame the prima donna WR. It's apparent quarterbacks are primma donna's too. Newsflash. They're the face of the franchise.. not that hard to see them taking it to their heads and tick off their WRs.

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2 hours ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said:

Brady doesn't call his team mates out in PCs. He does it in the game, which is totally fine. Certainly practice as well.. Brown can take that. It's the PCs. Brown cites his "ownership" mentality. Dude has too much control.

 

Brown totally f***** up with that last episode. But not 2 weeks earlier did Big Ben tank a game against the Raiders by not playing the 3rd quarter for some injury only to go back in the 4th perfectly healthy to lob up a touchdown as they lost the friggin Raiders.

 

Roethlisberger took a big hit on a sack late in the second quarter. Dobbs took the field for the Steelers to start the second half. Roethlisberger later emerged from the locker room with his helmet, but he did not re-enter the game until the Steelers fell behind, 17-14, with 5:20 remaining in regulation. After returning, he led the Steelers down the field and threw a go-ahead touchdown to JuJu Smith-Schuster with 2:55 remaining.

The Raiders answered with a score of their own, and the Steelers lost, 24-21

 

Does NO ONE remember this?? I'd get out of that situation in a hot minute. Is that not Ben also quitting on his team?

 

He's a baby and a great WR.. He wants to go somewhere else. Who cares, he'll do perfectly fine. I just don't think he owes Ben jack honestly. The dude is a dog**** leader. "I've earned the right to throw teammates under the bus. I'm the captain"

 

Once again, Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger threw a teammate under the bus for what he felt was a contributing factor to his team losing a game.

This time the target of Big Ben’s scorn was wide James Washington for dropping an easy touchdown pass in the Steelers’ loss to the Broncos.

Ben Roethlisberger after every Steelers loss that was his fault pic.twitter.com/ILjpAGaMm9

— ✭Boss Universal✭ (@JesseGladsaget) November 27, 2018

 

In defending himself after being criticized for being a bad teammate, which he kind of is, Roethlisberger said he has “earned the right” to throw other players on the team under the bus because he’s the captain.

One player who knows all about being Ben Roethlisberger’s teammate is current Bronco Emmanuel Sanders who caught passes from the QB from 2010 to 2013 before signing with Denver.

 

During his appearance on The Rich Eisen Show on Wednesday, Sanders talked about what he would do if it were him that Ben was throwing under the bus.

“If I was in that locker room, that wouldn’t sit well with me because that’s a situation that I feel like you handle in-house instead of talking about it. Obviously he’s the leader of that team, he’s the quarterback of that team and everybody looks to him to lead. So in doing that, in going to the media and saying those things, I definitely would pull him to the side and be like ‘hey man, if you have a problem with anything I do on the field, I would rather you talk to me in person about it than talk talk about it on the radio, because there’s ways to avoid that,'” Sanders told Eisen.

“Obviously, his emotions are probably running high after the loss and the interceptions and all that stuff… still, some things you keep in house, and Ben knows that.”

You mean this interception?

PICKED!

Wowwwwwww.

?: CBS #BroncosCountry pic.twitter.com/hHxU7Ww5cR

— NFL (@NFL) November 26, 2018

 

Eh, I’m sure that was all the receiver’s fault too.

 

 

 

Ok, you're now calling, one of the toughest QBs in the NFL for his entire career a "tanker"....because, in one game, he was in injured before the half, didn't play again until the Steelers fell behind....and then he went in and threw the go ahead TD???  You're joking, right?

 

Anyway, what is the really bad thing Ben said about AB?  He said that if he ran a better route, he, Ben, would not have thrown that INT.  Booooo hooooooo!  Sure maybe it was a dick move.  So what?  This is why you start acting like a fool and quit on your team in a must win game in week 17?

 

How many other Steelers are behaving this way in protest over Ben Roethlisberger's leadership?

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14 hours ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said:

I felt the same way about how I saw LeVeon approach free agency. He REALLY wanted to hit the market with as best value as possible.

 

... And the Steelers probably could have used him and he could have gotten some easy dough but no way with half that team throwing him under the bus over 10 weeks including OL.. virtually unprecedented for players to spite a teammate looking for money.

 

Could have used Brown if they coddled him a bit (you KNOW other franchises would move heaven and Earth over there). It's the culture of Big Ben in that town and Brown found it hella annoying.

 

Now they're probably going to suck haha 

Then the GM calls the team Ben's "kids?" That is NOT going to go over well with a room full of grown men who play a gladiator sport for a living.

 

Pittsburgh could very well fall off a cliff next season.

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Ultimately I feel like AB may have some substance to his gripe, but he may just be way too stupid and weird to deliver it properly. The antics and mustache don't help his cause, and no you should never quit on your team, but I can believe that the organization did him dirty in some ways and that playing with Big Ben is no picnic. Wanna talk divas? Roethlisberger is the biggest ***** diva in the league.

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On 3/5/2019 at 3:41 PM, Mr. WEO said:

 

Ok, you're now calling, one of the toughest QBs in the NFL for his entire career a "tanker"....because, in one game, he was in injured before the half, didn't play again until the Steelers fell behind....and then he went in and threw the go ahead TD???  You're joking, right?

 

Anyway, what is the really bad thing Ben said about AB?  He said that if he ran a better route, he, Ben, would not have thrown that INT.  Booooo hooooooo!  Sure maybe it was a dick move.  So what?  This is why you start acting like a fool and quit on your team in a must win game in week 17?

  

How many other Steelers are behaving this way in protest over Ben Roethlisberger's leadership?

Ben's a tough SOB no doubt.. but he blows the Raiders game. And AB blows week 17. Ben comes back in that game immediately at almost any point in his career, AB returns a coaches phone calls and attends practice at almost any other point in his career. Just a double standard is all. They each blew a late season game.. each did something they wouldn't ordinarily do.

 

The Raiders game was a frustrating loss with an apparently healthy QB sitting out to let them back into the game and put the Steelers playoff chances out of their own destiny. That's frustrating.. compounded with everything else happening that year.

 

AB blew it week 17.. but it's not like that action should be viewed in a vacuum. The team was falling apart. So much talent to start the season (assuming Bell continues to play) and they severely underachieved.

 

We're talking about 2 diva players here. One just happens to have way more leverage in the organization. That's why quarterbacks rarely get the label when it's so apparent.

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21 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said:

Ben's a tough SOB no doubt.. but he blows the Raiders game. And AB blows week 17. Ben comes back in that game immediately at almost any point in his career, AB returns a coaches phone calls and attends practice at almost any other point in his career. Just a double standard is all. They each blew a late season game.. each did something they wouldn't ordinarily do.

 

The Raiders game was a frustrating loss with an apparently healthy QB sitting out to let them back into the game and put the Steelers playoff chances out of their own destiny. That's frustrating.. compounded with everything else happening that year.

 

AB blew it week 17.. but it's not like that action should be viewed in a vacuum. The team was falling apart. So much talent to start the season (assuming Bell continues to play) and they severely underachieved.

 

 

I still don't know how you came to this conclusion.  He gets injured just before halftime (after throwing a TD pass to take a lead into the locker room).

 

Neither team scores in the 3rd Q.  

 

In the 4th Q, protecting a 4 point lead, the Steelers D coughs up a 14 play TD drive that eats 7:50 off the clock.  Ben comes back into the game and, in 2 and 1/2 minutes, drives the team 75 yards for the go ahead TD.  Then, in another 2 and a half minutes, the Steelers D gives up another 4th Q 75 yard TD drive and loses the game for Pittsburgh  (Steelers had a chance to tie but Kicker slipped on last second FG).

 

Big Ben's line?  25-29 (that's 86%), 282 yards and 2 TDs!  Both of his TDs were go ahead TDs.   Saying he "blew" this game is.....insane.

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

I still don't know how you came to this conclusion.  He gets injured just before halftime (after throwing a TD pass to take a lead into the locker room).

 

Neither team scores in the 3rd Q.  

 

In the 4th Q, protecting a 4 point lead, the Steelers D coughs up a 14 play TD drive that eats 7:50 off the clock.  Ben comes back into the game and, in 2 and 1/2 minutes, drives the team 75 yards for the go ahead TD.  Then, in another 2 and a half minutes, the Steelers D gives up another 4th Q 75 yard TD drive and loses the game for Pittsburgh  (Steelers had a chance to tie but Kicker slipped on last second FG).

 

Big Ben's line?  25-29 (that's 86%), 282 yards and 2 TDs!  Both of his TDs were go ahead TDs.   Saying he "blew" this game is.....insane.

 

 

He played great. He just didn't play enough to keep the Raiders out of the game. AB played great all year (all career). He just didn't talk to his coach week 17.

 

It was the Raiders dude, all he had to do was just get back in the game much earlier.

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Just now, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said:

He played great. He just didn't play enough to keep the Raiders out of the game. AB played great all year (all career). He just didn't talk to his coach week 17.

 

 

He played lights out, injured.  He gave them a halfime and a late 4th Q lead. 

 

You're wrong on this one.   His stats are stellar. 

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