CommonCents Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Virgil said: Am I reading this right? The Boston Globe WANTS the evidence to be used? I can only imagine how that'll go over in Boston between them and the Pats organization when this is all done. CBS is doing the same thing. Isn’t that the network he has worked with on the NFL TV deals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, CommonCents said: CBS is doing the same thing. Isn’t that the network he has worked with on the NFL TV deals? Makes you wonder how many "friends" he actually has. When people start to line up for your execution, it says something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Kraft must be using Dons Lawyers Robert Kraft's lawyers claim police used fake bomb threat to install cameras in prostitution sting https://www.yahoo.com/sports/robert-krafts-lawyers-claim-police-used-fake-bomb-threat-to-install-cameras-in-prostitution-sting-222551269.html They went in posed as Health Inspectors!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Just like deflategate. Kraft could have admitted some "guilt", paid a fine or maybe some community service, and this thing would have been dead and buried a month ago. And i dont really care, i think prostitution should be legal snd regulated... although i think its strange a billionaire would resort to this avenue. I guess maybe it is his jam and makes him happy. Whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 10 hours ago, Doc said: Pay attention to what? How to completely ignore reality? I've been watching you for years WEO; I've seen enough. Yeah, his lawyers are claiming the video was obtained improperly. So what? Everyone who was charged with something says the exact same thing just like they all say they're innocent. It's Law 101, doesn't mean anything in and of itself, and doesn't take a high-priced lawyer to realize to do it. Again the news report said that Florida LE has successfully prosecuted people charged with the exact same thing, and with lawyers claiming the exact same thing, meaning LE knows the proper way to go about obtaining them. So you see, I've mischaracterized nothing. If that's an example of you paying attention... Even the story specifically mentions why, in this case, there may be problems with how, in this case, the video may have been illegally obtained. In fact Kraft's lawyers, and other lawyers quoted on this particular item for weeks now in the press, say that, in this case, "LE" did not properly go about obtaining the tapes. A judge will decide. " And if the video was obtained properly, it becomes part of the public record, and that's the only thing Bobby cares about. So you'll also want to brush up on Florida sunshine laws." "Brush up"?? LOL yes....I've already told you this 3 times. Pay attention doc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Kraft must be using Dons Lawyers Robert Kraft's lawyers claim police used fake bomb threat to install cameras in prostitution sting https://www.yahoo.com/sports/robert-krafts-lawyers-claim-police-used-fake-bomb-threat-to-install-cameras-in-prostitution-sting-222551269.html They went in posed as Health Inspectors!!!! "The warrant cited a refrigerator with food and water as evidence that trafficking may have been taking place." If that's the case then there must be human trafficking going on at my office, lol. No wonder no one has been charged with trafficking. The warrant looking shaky.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: "The warrant cited a refrigerator with food and water as evidence that trafficking may have been taking place." If that's the case then there must be human trafficking going on at my office, lol. No wonder no one has been charged with trafficking. The warrant looking shaky.. lets not get selective WEO. They spoke to that as well as shelves of clothing as "evidence" of people living at the spa. which lead to speculation of not being able to leave. The Fridge was FULL of food and not just lunches and juice drinks Why are you defending Kraft so much? Edited April 4, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daisy days Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 45 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Do you really though? I wish it was a full blown sex tape..... and I would still watch it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 38 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: lets not get selective WEO. They spoke to that as well as shelves of clothing as "evidence" of people living at the spa. which lead to speculation of not being able to leave. The Fridge was FULL of food and not just lunches and juice drinks Why are you defending Kraft so much? How am I defending him? I said he was guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 22 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: How am I defending him? I said he was guilty. the way your counter arguments go, it "appears" as if you are defending him Apologies for my mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: the way your counter arguments go, it "appears" as if you are defending him Apologies for my mistake I'm just stating the obvious ways his lawyers (and the other 24) will challenge the case against them.. Widely reported stuff, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 10 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: SERIOUSLY!!!!!! An old man doing old man things. Tabloid fodder. Yup. It's entertaining! 10 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: Jury trial for THIS? So crazy. Petty offenses are generally ruled on by a judge. Yup. Waste of time and money for what is an obvious case. 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Even the story specifically mentions why, in this case, there may be problems with how, in this case, the video may have been illegally obtained. In fact Kraft's lawyers, and other lawyers quoted on this particular item for weeks now in the press, say that, in this case, "LE" did not properly go about obtaining the tapes. A judge will decide. " And if the video was obtained properly, it becomes part of the public record, and that's the only thing Bobby cares about. So you'll also want to brush up on Florida sunshine laws." "Brush up"?? LOL yes....I've already told you this 3 times. Pay attention doc. No, the story does not mention that at all and you're the one fabricating things. All it says is that his lawyers are trying to fight it using the oldest lawyer trick in the book: claiming that the evidence was obtained improperly. It happens all the time and still they can get convictions. And obviously I'm talking about the video being obtained properly. Although I'm starting to wonder if the motion to intervene filed by the Boston Globe joined doesn't even care if it was obtained properly? 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: lets not get selective WEO. They spoke to that as well as shelves of clothing as "evidence" of people living at the spa. which lead to speculation of not being able to leave. The Fridge was FULL of food and not just lunches and juice drinks WEO's just grasping at straws. Like Bobby's lawyers are. 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Why are you defending Kraft so much? He's not. He always goes out of his way to lay out a defense plan for people charged with crimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, Doc said: Yup. It's entertaining! Yup. Waste of time and money for what is an obvious case. No, the story does not mention that at all and you're the one fabricating things. All it says is that his lawyers are trying to fight it using the oldest lawyer trick in the book: claiming that the evidence was obtained improperly. It happens all the time and still they can get convictions. And obviously I'm talking about the video being obtained properly. Although I'm starting to wonder if the motion to intervene filed by the Boston Globe joined doesn't even care if it was obtained properly? WEO's just grasping at straws. Like Bobby's lawyers are. He's not. He always goes out of his way to lay out a defense plan for people charged with crimes. Yes! I am laying out a defense plan for these people! Me! I am charging a huge hourly too! Anyway, Ms. Badcock quotes the specific challenges Kraft's lawyers made regarding this particular video warrant. But it's time for another easy question: if the video and its warrant were obtained illegally, should that not be a factor in defense of any charge? Would you tell your lawyers in this situation: "just let it go"? (hint: you've already given your answer). And NOW you're talking about "the video being obtained properly"? You mean "the oldest 'trick' in the book" may prove that it wasn't? LOL. You spent days saying that the DA could threaten these guys with just releasing the video as leverage for them to cop a plea----but NOW you are finally qualifying it with ""if it was obtained properly". As I have said many times, it takes a while....but you always come around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Tick tick tick. This is getting good. Who will blink? Who can rule on this? Will it be upheld in the court of appeals? Could someone be pardoned? Stay tuned for this and more as we watch TBD turn...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Virgil said: Makes you wonder how many "friends" he actually has. When people start to line up for your execution, it says something Isn't that the world we live in now? Anytime anyone makes a mistake(im talking way less terms then this too) these days everyone wants them fired and burned at the stake. Well until it is them that makes a mistake, and then its poor me, save me! Sic.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 4, 2019 Author Share Posted April 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Virgil said: Am I reading this right? The Boston Globe WANTS the evidence to be used? I can only imagine how that'll go over in Boston between them and the Pats organization when this is all done. The Globe hates Kraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: The Globe hates Kraft What's that about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 4, 2019 Author Share Posted April 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Virgil said: What's that about? They complain about the negative coverage all the time on WEEI. I only know this because I’m a Celtics fan and tune in for that talk. I don’t know what’s behind it but they published some scathing article on him recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: They complain about the negative coverage all the time on WEEI. I only know this because I’m a Celtics fan and tune in for that talk. I don’t know what’s behind it but they published some scathing article on him recently Wait, you listen to Boston radio coverage? I knew you were messed up. I just didn't know how deep it went. Now where is that ignore button.......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Virgil said: Wait, you listen to Boston radio coverage? I knew you were messed up. I just didn't know how deep it went. Now where is that ignore button.......? If I told you I'll have to keeel you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Yes! I am laying out a defense plan for these people! Me! I am charging a huge hourly too! Anyway, Ms. Badcock quotes the specific challenges Kraft's lawyers made regarding this particular video warrant. But it's time for another easy question: if the video and its warrant were obtained illegally, should that not be a factor in defense of any charge? Would you tell your lawyers in this situation: "just let it go"? (hint: you've already given your answer). And NOW you're talking about "the video being obtained properly"? You mean "the oldest 'trick' in the book" may prove that it wasn't? LOL. You spent days saying that the DA could threaten these guys with just releasing the video as leverage for them to cop a plea----but NOW you are finally qualifying it with ""if it was obtained properly". As I have said many times, it takes a while....but you always come around. Should the legality of the video be a factor? Was Bobby entrapped into getting a handie? If not, (and he wasn't) then the answer is "no." The place was under surveillance for human trafficking and sex slavery, like many other massage parlors have been, and Bobby got caught. It was bad luck but Bobby put himself in that situation and has no one else to blame. Now let me ask you a simple question: do you think he should get off on a technicality? I'm not asking whether he should try just if he should. And if he does, will you be outraged? Given your diatribes against Bills players who ran afoul of the law and tried to get off, I know what your answer should be. Yeah I mentioned awhile ago that "hey, there's always a chance..." the video might be ruled inadmissible. But I don't think it will be and apparently neither does the DA since he's not offering any more plea deals. Edited April 5, 2019 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toesy Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Kraft was just born too soon-15 years from now guys just like Kraft will be handled by sex robots and trafficked persons will struggle to find a customer base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Toesy said: Kraft was just born too soon-15 years from now guys just like Kraft will be handled by sex robots and trafficked persons will struggle to find a customer base. No, guys like Kraft want to be serviced at massage parlors. With his money he could get the best living escorts and get his freak on in private, instead of at a type of place known to get raided just for stuff like this. Edited April 5, 2019 by Doc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 10 hours ago, Doc said: Yup. It's entertaining! Yup. Waste of time and money for what is an obvious case. It's a waste of time, money, and attention for what amounts to a speeding ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Just now, LSHMEAB said: It's a waste of time, money, and attention for what amounts to a speeding ticket. Yup. But this is all about preventing the video tape from being seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, Doc said: Yup. But this is all about preventing the video tape from being seen. The world is a better place if the video is never seen. I’m pretty sure about THAT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, Augie said: The world is a better place if the video is never seen. I’m pretty sure about THAT! I don't want to see them, but they should be made public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 UPDATE regarding the Human Trafficking angle: Prosecutors in Kraft Case Say No Human Trafficking Found So those with their panties in a wad because Kraft was involved with trafficking slaves can step back from the guillotine. Appears he was a widower looking for a NSA (no strings attached) handjob. I imagine NSA is hard for him to get from traditional sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 31 minutes ago, boater said: UPDATE regarding the Human Trafficking angle: Prosecutors in Kraft Case Say No Human Trafficking Found So those with their panties in a wad because Kraft was involved with trafficking slaves can step back from the guillotine. Appears he was a widower looking for a NSA (no strings attached) handjob. I imagine NSA is hard for him to get from traditional sources. You'd think that having a trophy GF who sits in the owner's box with him could at least get him a handie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 ...great to see Miami's top cops have cleaned up the city 100% to devote resources to this heinous occurrence....support zero tolerance...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 (edited) On 4/4/2019 at 5:34 PM, Doc said: No, guys like Kraft want to be serviced at massage parlors. With his money he could get the best living escorts and get his freak on in private, instead of at a type of place known to get raided just for stuff like this. people with money and brains, do not always go Hand in Hand. Edited April 13, 2019 by cba fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 It boggles the mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: It boggles the mind. Yeah, I can't wrap my head around it. Edited April 13, 2019 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 51 minutes ago, boater said: UPDATE regarding the Human Trafficking angle: Prosecutors in Kraft Case Say No Human Trafficking Found So those with their panties in a wad because Kraft was involved with trafficking slaves can step back from the guillotine. Appears he was a widower looking for a NSA (no strings attached) handjob. I imagine NSA is hard for him to get from traditional sources. Breitbart? Well there you go! Nothing to see here. Wasn't the spa owner a fixture at Mar-a-Lago? Weren't Krafty Bob and the Donald tight? Funny how it all works out in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: Breitbart? Well there you go! Nothing to see here. Wasn't the spa owner a fixture at Mar-a-Lago? Weren't Krafty Bob and the Donald tight? Funny how it all works out in the end. The former spa owner was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 On 4/4/2019 at 6:55 AM, Mr. WEO said: Yes! I am laying out a defense plan for these people! Me! I am charging a huge hourly too! Anyway, Ms. Badcock quotes the specific challenges Kraft's lawyers made regarding this particular video warrant. But it's time for another easy question: if the video and its warrant were obtained illegally, should that not be a factor in defense of any charge? Would you tell your lawyers in this situation: "just let it go"? (hint: you've already given your answer). And NOW you're talking about "the video being obtained properly"? You mean "the oldest 'trick' in the book" may prove that it wasn't? LOL. You spent days saying that the DA could threaten these guys with just releasing the video as leverage for them to cop a plea----but NOW you are finally qualifying it with ""if it was obtained properly". As I have said many times, it takes a while....but you always come around. Is WEO defending the patriots again? I want to get the cliff notes version of this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, Doc said: You'd think that having a trophy GF who sits in the owner's box with him could at least get him a handie... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, bbb said: "...shot dowwwwwwwwwwwwwwn..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Doc said: You'd think that having a trophy GF who sits in the owner's box with him could at least get him a handie... That is Kraft's problem.. trophy GFs. Trophy GF come with strings attached. Some come with heavy cabling attached. Dude just wants NSA relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Just now, boater said: That is Kraft's problem.. trophy GFs. Trophy GF come with strings attached. Some come with heavy cabling attached. Dude just wants NSA relief. Again like I asked, what's wrong with an escort at a private location? No strings, discretion and a place that won't get raided. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts