Hate Crime or Hoax?

[njbuff]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

 

I hope this guy gets hung by his gay balls................... and he would fully deserve it.

 

 

[/dev/null]

29 minutes ago, Crayola64 said:

 

Lol whatever you say boss.  You can pretend conservatives have never done that.  That’s what is nice about forums, there is no ultimate decision maker.  

that's not how this works champ.  you made an assertion.  somebody disputed the assertion.  it's not up to them to disprove your "common sense" assertion.  its on you to back up your claim

[Uncle Joe]

6 hours ago, Kevbeau said:

Someone in some prison just can't wait to be Jussie's Boy.
 

You know I wish that I was Jussie's Boy
I wish that I was Jussie's Boy
Where can I find a Boy like that?

[unbillievable]

38 minutes ago, Crayola64 said:

Lol, I i make a living proving much smarter people wrong on much more complex topics.  I’m much more aware of logic and supporting assertions with evidence than you’ll ever be, so pipe down with your threats/lessons of supporting evidence.

 

LOL, you should tell him about your PHD's and trophies in debate club, maybe mention that time you pwnd noobs on fortnite. /LOL

LOL, that will show him how right you are. /LOL.

 

[/dev/null]

3 minutes ago, Uncle Joe said:

Someone in some prison just can't wait to be Jussie's Boy.
 

You know I wish that I was Jussie's Boy
I wish that I was Jussie's Boy
Where can I find a Boy like that?

 

Jussie will spend his entire sentence in Protected Custody.  Releasing him into GenPop would be too dangerous to The Narrative, because there would be racial harmony and cooperation between the Aryan Brotherhood and the black gangs as they take turns torment him.

[3rdnlng]

34 minutes ago, Crayola64 said:

 

Lol whatever you say boss.  You can pretend conservatives have never done that.  That’s what is nice about forums, there is no ultimate decision maker.  You can go unchecked and believe whatever you want.  I personally like it that way as it lets people have opinions and discussions that wouldn’t pass muster elsewhere.

 

you asking me to prove something, me giving it to you, and you get to pretend I didn’t and tell me not to try that ***** again.  Lol, I i make a living proving much smarter people wrong on much more complex topics.  I’m much more aware of logic and supporting assertions with evidence than you’ll ever be, so pipe down with your threats/lessons of supporting evidence.

 

and we both know how right I was after you read about someone like Ashley Todd.  You can try and snake your way out of it all you want.

So, you finally linked to the 8 or so examples and then admitted that only one of them may be somewhat accurate. Someone that was mentally ill. I never said that conservatives have never made use of political hoaxes. I just asked you to provide proof which you weren't even able to do other than a sketchy 11 year old instance of a college age mentally ill girl. So far all you've done is show me that you are a poser and I regret wasting my time arguing with you. Now spin things all you want, but I can guarantee you that the thinking people here have seen right through you.

[Numark3]

12 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

that's not how this works champ.  you made an assertion.  somebody disputed the assertion.  it's not up to them to disprove your "common sense" assertion.  its on you to back up your claim

 

I sincerely don't expect to be deemed a winner of any debates here.  It is a conservative board, its just very entertaining to me.  I tested it today by providing plenty of links, for him to blindly say ashley todd's conduct wasn't politically motivated.  It is laughable.  

[Paulus]

Has there ever been a time in US history where a racebaiter,  of this proportion or any, has seen any punishment by the law?

[Numark3]

1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

So, you finally linked to the 8 or so examples and then admitted that only one of them may be somewhat accurate.

 

 

That isn't true.  I just went with the first because it is the most clear, and if you won't admit that is politically motivated, you won't for the others.  But keep lying about what I said lol (or make up things that I didn't say like liberal hoaxes are on par)

 

1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

 

 

Someone that was mentally ill. I never said that conservatives have never made use of political hoaxes. I just asked you to provide proof which you weren't even able to do other than a sketchy 11 year old instance of a college age mentally ill girl.

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I just went back to our last democratic president.  And keep harping on mental illness, as if anyone who would stage a hoax as a victim would not be mentally ill.  

 

1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

 

 

So far all you've done is show me that you are a poser and I regret wasting my time arguing with you. Now spin things all you want, but I can guarantee you that the thinking people here have seen right through you.

 

Lol "poser."  You were a clown today, and I thought you could debate better.  I found you links within 10 or 15 minutes, and you couldn't deal with it.

[3rdnlng]

1 minute ago, Crayola64 said:

 

I sincerely don't expect to be deemed a winner of any debates here.  It is a conservative board, its just very entertaining to me.  I tested it today by providing plenty of links, for him to blindly say ashley todd's conduct wasn't politically motivated.  It is laughable.  

What about the other 7 or so examples you used? I said Ashley Todd's conduct/guilt was questionable because of the mental illness factor. You don't learn things very well, do you? You remind me of the uncle who has been calling your wife Katy, Kathy for the last 10 years even though he's been corrected every time.

[Paulus]

4 minutes ago, Crayola64 said:

 

I sincerely don't expect to be deemed a winner of any debates here.  It is a conservative board, its just very entertaining to me.  I tested it today by providing plenty of links, for him to blindly say ashley todd's conduct wasn't politically motivated.  It is laughable.  

Ashley Todd was some roastie in the middle of nowhere that the media ignored. She had no legislation created because of her silliness. Also, conservatives called BS on her. Your comparisons are weak. There is a list of various false flags from both sides, but the Democrats have gone insane since Trump with these things. 

 

That said, the sailor kissing a girl statue was likely a false flag, if I had to bet.

 

Fake hate crime are common on the left and you little list is effectually comical when each instance is taken into consideration. Easily distinguished and sad.

 

https://dailycaller.com/2019/02/18/hoax-hate-crimes-list/

[Numark3]

8 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

What about the other 7 or so examples you used? I said Ashley Todd's conduct/guilt was questionable because of the mental illness factor. You don't learn things very well, do you? You remind me of the uncle who has been calling your wife Katy, Kathy for the last 10 years even though he's been corrected every time.

 

You move the goalposts so much its unreal.  Yea, a mccain staffer who made up a report of a black guy pinning her down, telling her to support obama, and scratching a B into her face was not politically motivated because of mental illness....as if anyone being a victim for a hoax doesn't have mental issues.

 

You are the type of person who doesn't admit they are wrong.  There are plenty of examples.  Not that long ago there was the case of the guy making a report of his truck being vandalized by BLM supporters.  Turns out he spraypainted his own car. 

 

You are a fool.

4 minutes ago, Paulus said:

Ashley Todd was some roastie in the middle of nowhere that the media ignored. She had no legislation created because of her silliness. Also, conservatives called BS on her. Your comparisons are weak. There is a list of various false flags from both sides, but the Democrats have gone insane since Trump with these things. 

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I made zero comparison between left and right hoaxes (so not sure how they could be weak...they don't exist).  I made zero points about media.  I said there were false flags from both sides, that was literally my only point.  Something you just agreed with me on, so thank you.  

 

 

I don't even know 3rdnlng's point.  All he did was randomly ask me to prove something, which you and several others have agreed with the past few pages.  I provided proof, but he still wants to argue for god knows what reason.  

 

Edited February 21, 2019 by Crayola64

[3rdnlng]

4 minutes ago, Crayola64 said:

 

That isn't true.  I just went with the first because it is the most clear, and if you won't admit that is politically motivated, you won't for the others.  But keep lying about what I said lol (or make up things that I didn't say like liberal hoaxes are on par)

 

 

I just went back to our last democratic president.  And keep harping on mental illness, as if anyone who would stage a hoax as a victim would not be mentally ill.  

 

 

Lol "poser."  You were a clown today, and I thought you could debate better.  I found you links within 10 or 15 minutes, and you couldn't deal with it.

No you idiot, you didn't provide links in the first place. What you did was provide names and stories without links. I had to ask for links from you and you pissed and moaned about it. Also, from your conversation here, Ashley Todd was your best example and she is without a doubt a very sketchy. Face it, you made a statement, got called out on it, tried to confuse the issue and eventually had to show your "proof". Your "proof" sucked and hopefully you learned that you can't get away with that kind of bs here.

[Numark3]

1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

No you idiot, you didn't provide links in the first place.

 

 

No one provides links in their original posts for pretty obvious assertions.

 

 

1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

 

 

What you did was provide names and stories without links. I had to ask for links from you and you pissed and moaned about it.

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I made one post asking you to clarify lol.

 

1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

 

Also, from your conversation here, Ashley Todd was your best example and she is without a doubt a very sketchy. Face it, you made a statement, got called out on it, tried to confuse the issue and eventually had to show your "proof". Your "proof" sucked and hopefully you learned that you can't get away with that kind of bs here.

 

Haha you are a silly one.  I never tried to confuse the issue.  My examples dont suck.  And you have not taught me any lessons other than to take you not seriously.  You did not do well today.  It is funny you think so though, I am happy I have contributed to thinking you helped teach people forum lessons.  

 

[B-Man]

 

BREAKING: @ABC7Chicago obtains surveillance video that appears to show brothers involved in Smollett investigation leaving a Chicago store after buying items allegedly used in staged attack on Jussie Smollett.

[Paulus]

4 minutes ago, Crayola64 said:

 

You move the goalposts so much its unreal.  Yea, a mccain staffer who made up a report of a black guy pinning her down, telling her to support obama, and scratching a B into her face was not politically motivated because of mental illness....as if anyone being a victim for a hoax doesn't have mental issues.

 

You are the type of person who doesn't admit they are wrong.  There are plenty of examples.  Not that long ago there was the case of the guy making a report of his truck being vandalized by BLM supporters.  Turns out he spraypainted his own car. 

 

You are a fool.

 

I made zero comparison between left and right hoaxes (so not sure how they could be weak...they don't exist).  I made zero points about media.  I said there were false flags from both sides, that was literally my only point.  Something you just agreed with me on, so thank you.  

 

 

I don't even know 3rdnlng's point.  All he did was randomly ask me to prove something, which you and several others have agreed with the past few pages.  I provided proof, but he still wants to argue for god knows what reason.  

 

Fair enough, comrade... 8-P

 

There are idiots on both sides, who like to sow the seeds of division. And, whenever the dumber idiots mess up, the other side tries to turn them into an example. I can agree.

 

Mud takes away from progress and unlocking new achievements.

[Numark3]

1 minute ago, Paulus said:

Fair enough, comrade... 8-P

 

There are idiots on both sides, who like to sow the seeds of division. And, whenever the dumber idiots mess up, the other side tries to turn them into an example. I can agree.

 

Mud takes away from progress and unlocking new achievements.

 

Fully agreed.  And I even said if I had to make a guess, I would say there seem to be more hoaxes by liberals lately.  

[Koko78]

1 hour ago, Albwan said:

C'mon we all know where this is going... soft democrat Trump hating judge

gives poor Jessie a break, because wink wink its trumps fault, son.

Now, he's a liberal hero and makes a boatload of dough.

 

I think they're going to go more the political prisoner route, complete with Nelson Mandela references and "Free Jussie" rallies.

30 minutes ago, Crayola64 said:

 

 

27 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

 

 

Get a ***** room.

[3rdnlng]

20 minutes ago, Crayola64 said:

 

No one provides links in their original posts for pretty obvious assertions.

 

 

 

I made one post asking you to clarify lol.

 

 

Haha you are a silly one.  I never tried to confuse the issue.  My examples dont suck.  And you have not taught me any lessons other than to take you not seriously.  You did not do well today.  It is funny you think so though, I am happy I have contributed to thinking you helped teach people forum lessons.  

 

Wrong.

[Golden Goat]

 

[GG]

1 hour ago, njbuff said:

 

I hope this guy gets hung by his gay balls................... and he would fully deserve it.

 

 

What are gay balls?

 

What's the dress code?

[3rdnlng]

Just now, GG said:

What are gay balls?

 

What's the dress code?

Tea Baggers.

[TPS]

Right up the Dude's alley....this is how ***** up the country is now.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/coast-guard-lieutenant-accused-murder-plot-scale-rarely-seen-country-223900168.html

[B-Man]

24 minutes ago, TPS said:

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/coast-guard-lieutenant-accused-murder-plot-scale-rarely-seen-country-223900168.html

 

 

Good work.

 

Lock him up and throw away the key !

[Numark3]

I saw he was charged with a felony lol!

[Albwan]

charging him with disorderly conduct. lol.

[The_Dude]

[B-Man]

Quote

 

Emily Zanotti‏Verified account @emzanotti 16m16 minutes ago

Given tonight’s Smollett news, it’s worth reposting this, about why so many people in Chicago cared about getting this right.

 

In the time since the “attack,” 18 people have been killed, here including a 1 year old. We didn’t need this. We can’t afford it.

 

 

 

.https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-met-jussie-smollett-kass-20190219-story.html

[B-Man]

 

 

 

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[KD in CA]

3 hours ago, Golden Goat said:

 

 

God Bless The Post.

[bdutton]

10 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

One more time. In your original post on this you put conservative political hoaxes on par with liberal political hoaxes. Then you stated that you would be proven correct if there was even one example of conservative hoaxes found. So, we found a mentally ill college student who made up some stupidshit. Nice. You can now claim that you've won something. I hope you've learned that providing links is a good thing here and providing links that back up your point is an even better thing.

Paralympic version of political trolling?

[Paulus]

3 hours ago, TPS said:

Right up the Dude's alley....this is how ***** up the country is now.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/coast-guard-lieutenant-accused-murder-plot-scale-rarely-seen-country-223900168.html

I wonder if this is the FBI taking headlines away from the Smolett thing. 

 

Not the only organization that is very literally above the law.

[TtownBillsFan]

9 hours ago, whatdrought said:

 

I think in retrospect that Cruz might have had a chance. Trump lost a lot of voters who didn't want to play the "good, not great" game or didn't want to compromise on morality and character in the conservative ideas. I respect that, but I also wonder about Christians/Catholics voting for a Mormon without any trouble on that side. That being said, I really liked Ted Cruz. I think he could have potentially won because people on the right so hated Hillary, but we'll never know. 

I will say that Trumps biggest advantage over Hillary was that she is/was a joke of a candidate who assumed the end, and he is/was a massive troll who gave no *****. 

 

You also make a great point in that the liberal media helped Trump immensely by sensationalizing him during the primary. They must have believed he was the path of least resistance for their queen B. 

Haven't caught up on the whole thread yet, but at this point, right here, I voted for Ted Cruz in Oklahoma in the primaries.  He was my guy from day 1, and I fully admit I was one of the butt-hurt that a non-conservative won our primary election, and abstained from the general.  I regret it, as the orange-man has lead as conservatively as any since Reagan, and in some ways, more.  I WILL be casting my vote for orange-man when given my next chance!  I'll catch up on the rest of it tomorrow, but just had to mention my admiration of Ted Cruz.

[whatdrought]

1 hour ago, TtownBillsFan said:

Haven't caught up on the whole thread yet, but at this point, right here, I voted for Ted Cruz in Oklahoma in the primaries.  He was my guy from day 1, and I fully admit I was one of the butt-hurt that a non-conservative won our primary election, and abstained from the general.  I regret it, as the orange-man has lead as conservatively as any since Reagan, and in some ways, more.  I WILL be casting my vote for orange-man when given my next chance!  I'll catch up on the rest of it tomorrow, but just had to mention my admiration of Ted Cruz.

 

I voted Cruz in the primary and really wasn’t a fan of Trump at all. That being said, I voted Trump in main because I didn’t want Hillary to get elected. I have been very happy with Trump so far and I plan on voting for him again. He’s not a conservative on a lot of issues, but he’s definitely aiming in the right directions.

[Foxx]

https://twitter.com/CharlieDeMar/status/1098554202371043329

 

[BeginnersMind]

15:00, time's up.

 

And I still don't know who he is. 

[B-Man]

LOL..................so predictable.

 

 

Lemon: The worst part about Smollett hoax will be all the conservative pouncing, you know

[Bray Wyatt]

4 minutes ago, B-Man said:

LOL..................so predictable.

 

 

Lemon: The worst part about Smollett hoax will be all the conservative pouncing, you know

 

LOL Yeah that's the worst part! 

[3rdnlng]

http://thefederalist.com/2019/02/19/15-recent-hate-crime-hoaxes-might-make-suspect-theres-trend/

 

Cut to 2019, and an era in which the American left daily imbibes a different kind of fantasy porn to titillate the insatiable thirst for outrage. Enter Jussie Smollett, an actor who knows his audience. He is not the first actor to turn to a type of porn to revive his career. So he scripts two characters to help him act out a scene of outrage porn for the liberal media in which he pretends to be victimized by two Donald Trump supporters.

 

The script checks all the right victim boxes for a good outrage fantasy. Watch this montage of outrage as the mainstream media hilariously buy into it. Over and over, they ironically ask, “Who could believe that something like this could happen in 2019?” Who could believe it? So addicted are they to the narcotic of outrage, that the mere fantasy of the attack is all they need to believe it true.

You might remember a few other hoaxes over recent years. Smollett’s hoax reminds one of the failing talk show host, Morton Downey Jr. In the late 1980s, he attempted to revive public attention by falsely claiming to have been attacked by neo-Nazis.

Maybe you remember the Duke University lacrosse team being falsely accused of attacking an African-American exotic dancer. Or, more recently, you might remember a gay man falsely accusing Whole Foods of decorating his cake with the slur, “*****.”

We should also remember a recent video of a child being separated from his mother at the border that turned out to be a hoax. The Kavanaugh Supreme Court confirmation battle likewise had its share of hoaxes.

 

Such hoaxes are becoming common, even epidemic. There are hundreds of them, and several worthy authors (here, here, here, and here, for example) have done yeomen’s work compiling these lists from which I now draw. Here is a small sample of confirmed hoaxes in just the last few years.

November 2016

A pro-gay Indiana church was vandalized with slurs, including one reading, “Heil Trump.” It was actually the church’s own organ player who did it as a hoax.

Firefighters battled arson at a church attended by African Americans. On the wall of the church, the presumed arsonist wrote, “Vote Trump,” in an apparent reference to the upcoming election. It was a sick hoax perpetrated by one of the parishioners.

In Lafayette, Kentucky, a woman falsely claimed to have had her hijab stolen by white men wearing Trump hats.

December 2016

 

A Plainview, New York man was charged with perpetrating another vandalism hoax in which he painted several swastikas around the campus of Nassau Community College.

A Muslim woman made up another hijab-stealing hate crime hoax, claiming three men screaming “Donald Trump” attacked her.

April 2017: An arson case in Charlotte, North Carolina first appeared to be a hate crime when the perpetrator left a note reading, “Our newly elected president Donald Trump is our nation builder for White America. You all know that, we want our country back on the right track. We need to get rid of Muslims, Indians and all immigrants.” It was a hoax.

May 2017: A racist note left on the windshield of an African-American St. Olaf student touched off campus-wide protests and got the college to cancel classes. It was a hoax perpetrated as “strategy to draw attention to concerns about the campus climate.”

 

Read more hoaxes at the link

[keepthefaith]

46 minutes ago, B-Man said:

LOL..................so predictable.

 

 

Lemon: The worst part about Smollett hoax will be all the conservative pouncing, you know

 

Says one of the worst parts of media.  He is truly despicable and nearly every day.  A disgrace to his profession or what is supposed to be a profession.