One Buffalo Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I mean it makes sense from the Bills perspective if they are trying to get younger and more energetic from a coaching staff standpoint. Plus it’s not like he had some big time history as a QB coach so it made sense for both parties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Wonder who Daboll has in mind, or if he's going to take that on himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Just now, oldmanfan said: Wonder who Daboll has in mind, or if he's going to take that on himself. ...interesting job title/responsibility.....no longer QB Coach................. Assistant Head Coach/Receivers/Passing Coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Ken Dorsey maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...interesting job title/responsibility.....no longer QB Coach................. Assistant Head Coach/Receivers/Passing Coordinator. they had to give him that Assistant HC title I imagine so it would be seen as a promotion, otherwise they couldnt have interviewed him or would have to ask permission 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I think they have to give him the "Assistant" status. Otherwise it would be a lateral move the Bills could block? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Well, I guess all the Culley haters got their wish! Will be interesting to see how replaces him. Position coaching hires aren't always that newsworthy, but the QB coach hire will be, for obvious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Just now, Bray Wyatt said: they had to give him that Assistant HC title I imagine so it would be seen as a promotion, otherwise they couldnt have interviewed him or would have to ask permission ...certainly, but why not Assistant HC/QB Coach unless it conflicts with QB Coach Urban's title ?...interesting....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Jordan Palmer? Don’t think that’s likely though for multiple reasons, inc. that he has a good gig going and can have player contact the entire offseason 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 The QB coach is already on the roster -- his name is Derek Anderson. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Just now, Bray Wyatt said: they had to give him that Assistant HC title I imagine so it would be seen as a promotion, otherwise they couldnt have interviewed him or would have to ask permission I believe they still have to ask permission to speak with him, even though it's an unwritten rule that you dont block someone from a promotion on another club. It would allow the Bill's the chance to promote him or let him talk to them. It's also within their rights to just say no too. I dont believe there are any rules prohibiting a team from asking another team to interview someone for a lateral position, but as a franchise why would you let them do it? I dont know though, interviewing a former WR who is a QB coach to come and be your WR coach and passing game coordinator? What he he know about that? Lol 1 minute ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Jordan Palmer? Don’t think that’s likely though for multiple reasons, inc. that he has a good gig going and can have player contact the entire offseason I think he has also already said he isnt interested in that position. More money and better work schedule being a "private tutor/coach" then work for one team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said: they had to give him that Assistant HC title I imagine so it would be seen as a promotion, otherwise they couldnt have interviewed him or would have to ask permission That isn't a promotion, per the rules. If you're an assistant/position coach, the only promotion is going to Head Coach. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: I believe they still have to ask permission to speak with him, even though it's an unwritten rule that you dont block someone from a promotion on another club. It would allow the Bill's the chance to promote him or let him talk to them. It's also within their rights to just say no too. I dont believe there are any rules prohibiting a team from asking another team to interview someone for a lateral position, but as a franchise why would you let them do it? I dont know though, interviewing a former WR who is a QB coach to come and be your WR coach and passing game coordinator? What he he know about that? Lol I think he has also already said he isnt interested in that position. More money and better work schedule being a "private tutor/coach" then work for one team. I thought it was written that they could not block a promotion. Also, while there may not be a rule preventing them from asking, a lateral move could be blocked, hence the new title 2 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: That isn't a promotion, per the rules. If you're an assistant/position coach, the only promotion is going to Head Coach. hes not an assistant HC here, he will be there, hence a promotion, just like a position coach to coordinator is a promotion. Do you have a link to the rules by any chance? Edited January 29, 2019 by Bray Wyatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Bray Wyatt said: hes not an assistant HC here, he will be there, hence a promotion As far as I know, that isn't how it works. HC is promotion. Everything else is lateral. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: As far as I know, that isn't how it works. HC is promotion. Everything else is lateral. Found this link, seems you are correct https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2010/1/14/1249310/rules-pertaining-to-hiring-nfl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Would like to give Matt Canada a call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngjebrey Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, eball said: The QB coach is already on the roster -- his name is Derek Anderson. It’d be interesting to see Anderson retire, rehired as the QB coach, all while freeing up a roster spot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...interesting job title/responsibility.....no longer QB Coach................. Assistant Head Coach/Receivers/Passing Coordinator. He came here to start rising the ranks and getting to a spot to be a head coach. If you're (not literally you) only comment about him was "but he has never been a QB coach" you really don't know a thing about how these coaching staffs work. This a huge, underrated loss for us. Edited January 29, 2019 by JoshAllenHasBigHands 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Notice how they show a picture of Culley during his tenure with the Chiefs (offensive powerhouse) instead of a picture with the Bills (offensive work-in-progress). 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Capco said: Notice how they show a picture of Culley during his tenure with the Chiefs (offensive powerhouse) instead of a picture with the Bills (offensive work-in-progress). Yeah I noticed that too... the optics of putting him up there as a Bills coach must not have been the look they were after! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 The two favorites: Ken Dorsey Connections to McDermott/Beane Young Former QB App State assistant so it won't be too hard to pry him away Jim Bob Cooter Was Offensive Quality Control under Daboll in 2012 with the Chiefs Young Former QB Experienced 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 The "Assistant Head Coach" designation was probably the kicker. Culley has had aspirations to move up the coaching ladder, and not he takes another step.I think there are some quality possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 23 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said: I thought it was written that they could not block a promotion. Also, while there may not be a rule preventing them from asking, a lateral move could be blocked, hence the new title hes not an assistant HC here, he will be there, hence a promotion, just like a position coach to coordinator is a promotion. Do you have a link to the rules by any chance? Does not matter. All that jazz was changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I remember reading when the Bills hired him that his goal is to be a HC and he’s trying to get experience coaching different areas of the offense. He has used his connections to that. He coached with McDermott and Harbaugh in Philly. Good for him, it is a promotion in terms of responsibility (even though all assistants are lateral moves technically) and he will likely be missed on the offensive staff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 minute ago, gobills1212 said: Does not matter. All that jazz was changed Should have kept reading the thread, I acknowledged my being wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Couldnt the Jets do the same as they are starting over? Itd be cool, but its not like this is the 1st time one of his students has a qb coach spot open and as he is already working w a new crop this year its gotta be he digs the teaching aspect. I have no insight, but id venture to guess he does well monetarily and would prefer to be a young qb guru than linked to 1 guy and team. 2 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said: Should have kept reading the thread, I acknowledged my being wrong Shouldnt have been wrong, i wouldnt have had to keep reading the thread! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 minute ago, gobills1212 said: Couldnt the Jets do the same as they are starting over? Itd be cool, but its not like this is the 1st time one of his students has a qb coach spot open and as he is already working w a new crop this year its gotta be he digs the teaching aspect. I have no insight, but id venture to guess he does well monetarily and would prefer to be a young qb guru than linked to 1 guy and team. Shouldnt have been wrong, i wouldnt have had to keep reading the thread! Ha! well played sir 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315Mafia Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 37 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Ken Dorsey maybe? i think that would be a good move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 40 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Wonder who Daboll has in mind, or if he's going to take that on himself. That’s an bad idea. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: That’s an bad idea. I agree. I expect he has some folks in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 42 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Ken Dorsey maybe? He just got promoted to OC at App State... not sure if he wants the college route or pro route but knowing the brutalities of recruiting ... if he has a family... I would guess the latter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 29 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said: Found this link, seems you are correct https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2010/1/14/1249310/rules-pertaining-to-hiring-nfl Your line of thought was absolutely correct until recently! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I agree. I expect he has some folks in mind. I hope so. It’s so important for Allen. Admittedly, I’m hesitate on Allen because of the way this franchise has handled young QBs in the past. They gave EJ the Cuse first time OC as both his OC and QB coach his rookie year. Allen needs good coaching around him. I think they screwed up last year when they kept only Peterman. I’m also not sold on Daboll and think we could easily upgrade that. But the QB coach should be a huge priority for such a raw guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 45 minutes ago, eball said: The QB coach is already on the roster -- his name is Derek Anderson. I was thinking the same thing. They are probably looking to transition him over in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Let's face it, guys...the Bills don't plan on Derek Anderson playing unless it's an emergency. Barkley will be the backup. Anderson is Allen's de facto QB coach next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Does Sean McVay have anyone left on his staff that the Bills could promote to QB coach? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Just now, PIZ said: Does Sean McVay have anyone left on his staff that the Bills could promote to QB coach? Or anyone who sat at the same restaurant while McVay dined? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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