Updates from Senior Bowl week in Mobile, AL

[ndirish1978]

6 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

even if we spend big on 3 OL in FA that are under 30?

 

If we manager to sign Paradis (30), Glowinski (26) and James/Williams (27) we would be spending WAY too much on the OL. 

Edited January 24, 2019 by ndirish1978

[CEN-CAL17]

5 hours ago, billspro said:

 

This guy has process written all over him. I’m definitely going to mock draft him in round 2. I also like that he hasn’t given up a sack in two years. Usually those type of guys become pro bowlers at the NFL level.

I’m here at the Senior Bowl practice and I’m telling you, Dalton was the best Oline out here all day. Bradbury is solid too.

its the things you don’t see between snap to whistle that screams high character and leadership. He’s going too 20

[Magox]

10 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

If we don't draft OL with one of our first two picks I wouldn't be happy at all

I get that!   But I don't want to reach and would rather get BPA in a position of need as opposed to reaching to fill the most pressing need.

[BuffaloHokie13]

2 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

If we manager to sign Paradis (30), Glowinski (26) and James/Williams (27) we would be spending WAY too much on the OL. 

I'm curious why you feel this way?

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/offensive-line/

30th in spending on the OL did not work out great.

[whatdrought]

5 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

If we manager to sign Paradis (30), Glowinski (26) and James/Williams (27) we would be spending WAY too much on the OL. 

 

Meh, we have money, that's our biggest need, and there aren't any offensive weapons that do it for me on the market. I wouldn't mind spending a lot to shore up the line. 

 

Also, Glowinski and Williams would be a huge upgrade, even if we keep Bodine at C. Then we can snag a C in the mid rounds. 

 

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind spending picks on linemen, but I see more value at OL in FA and more offensive weapon value in the draft. 

Edited January 24, 2019 by whatdrought

[YoloinOhio]

 

[RPbillsfan]

32 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

If we manager to sign Paradis (30), Glowinski (26) and James/Williams (27) we would be spending WAY too much on the OL. 

I'm sorry but spending on the O line makes your QB, running game, passing offense better and keeps them on the field longer also helping the defense.

 

3 players and 2 picks are needed to add to Dawkins, Teller and Bodine and we possible Bottinger would have us set for years.

[ndirish1978]

Just now, RPbillsfan said:

I'm sorry but spending on the O line makes your QB, running game, passing offense better and keeps them on the field longer also helping the defense.

 

3 players and 2 picks are needed to add to Dawkins, Teller and Bodine and we possible Bottinger would have us set for years.

 

So you are proposing we carry 8-9 OL? That's what you're proposing?

[RPbillsfan]

4 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

So you are proposing we carry 8-9 OL? That's what you're proposing?

Yes, we carry 8 and usually dress at least 7 on gameday and on occasion 8

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Not at the table Karlos]

Would it kill nfl network if they show the ub players reps instead of some guy standing around. They showed 1 AJ rep and 2 tyree so far. 

 

Edit- from the few plays they have shown of his, Tyree looks the best out of the south qbs so far imo.  All against air at this point. 

Edited January 24, 2019 by Not at the table Karlos
They showed tyree and i had an inion

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[RPbillsfan]

Deebo looking really great

[YoloinOhio]

 

McDermott stressed the importance of this week in the scouting process because it’s a chance for the Bills to meet some of these prospects for the first time. Beane and his staff, led by assistant general manager Joe Schoen, have set the table for the coaches in attendance. They already have preliminary grades on most, if not all, of the players in Mobile. That helps the coaches focus their attention on certain players to give the Bills a more complete view of the prospects.

Scouts are able to meet with players in the players’ hotel, which serves as the main base for this event. The formal meetings take place at the convention center across the way. Most of the Bills scouts and coaches were up in the bleachers for Tuesday’s practice, but offensive coordinator Brian Daboll and new offensive line coach Bobby Johnson were on the field for parts of practice to get an up-close look at the offensive line prospects.

 

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

FTR: Matt Miller had Michael Thomas as his WR1 a few years ago, when he went in the 2nd rd and is now arguably the best WR in the league

Edited January 24, 2019 by YoloinOhio

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

2 hours ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

If we manager to sign Paradis (30), Glowinski (26) and James/Williams (27) we would be spending WAY too much on the OL. 

 

...if Bronco ownership was anyone other than the Bowlen family, "Know It All John" would be on the hot seat.....at the same time, don't see him letting Paradis getting away despite a pretty tall tariff.......

[billspro]

6 hours ago, NewEra said:

Agreed.  I think he’s this years Frank ragnow.  The guy everyone mocks to us in rd 2-4 but gets taken rd 1

 

Wouldnt surprise me. I would be fine with trading down and taking him in round 1.

2 hours ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

If we manager to sign Paradis (30), Glowinski (26) and James/Williams (27) we would be spending WAY too much on the OL. 

 

I’m fine with overpaying for a QB and OL. That is where you should spend your money.

[billspro]

2 hours ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said:

I’m here at the Senior Bowl practice and I’m telling you, Dalton was the best Oline out here all day. Bradbury is solid too.

its the things you don’t see between snap to whistle that screams high character and leadership. He’s going too 20

 

He can play all 5 OL positions too. That is rare. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

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[Augie]

14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Somebody please tell them to do BETTER! We need a rush on QB’s! 

[YoloinOhio]

8 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Somebody please tell them to do BETTER! We need a rush on QB’s! 

I know ?

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Nitro]

2018 Senior Bowl had Josh Allen (QB), Levi Wallace (CB),  Siran Neal (CB), Taron Johnson (CB), Harrison Phillips (DT), and Wyatt Teller (OG) as participants.  Watching the game to see future Buffalo Bills.  Beane got his money's worth from scouting it last year.

[Formerly Allan in MD]

4 hours ago, RPbillsfan said:

I'm sorry but spending on the O line makes your QB, running game, passing offense better and keeps them on the field longer also helping the defense.

 

3 players and 2 picks are needed to add to Dawkins, Teller and Bodine and we possible Bottinger would have us set for years.

You may not need Bodine if you do things right. 

 

No solid OL = no solid offensive.  It's time the Bills learned.

[YoloinOhio]

 

• So… about these quarterbacks. Let’s get through this quickly. Trace McSorley proved he isn’t a draftable commodity. Daniel Jones had some first-round buzz entering the week but he struggled immensely. Everything was calculated, his ball velocity was poor and nothing looked natural. He was pressing hard throughout the week. Ryan Finley was Ryan Finley… primed for a long carer as a backup. Drew Lock was clearly the best of the group but he didn’t put on a show like we’ve seen in recent years at the Senior Bowl from Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen and Carson Wentz. That said, he was in a tier of his own.

[Warcodered]

4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

To be fair to those QBs the only positive news I remember hearing about Allen before the actual game was that he seemed to improve as the week went on.

[Chuck Wagon]

13 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

That's an interesting take.

 

Everything I've seen on Lock on twitter is positive buzz, several people (especially with ties to Denver / Giants) saying he's cementing himself as a top 10 pick.

[RyanC883]

On 1/22/2019 at 4:02 PM, whatdrought said:

 

He'll probably move up the board like Anthony Miller did last year. Hopefully the abundance of big body receivers will keep him lower and we can snag him in the third. 

 

does he has a slower 40 time?  someone who started a thread yesterday said he looked slow.  Could be nice to grab one more fast guy, and a big Kelvin Benjamin type--but one who can actually, you know, catch the ball! 

[Sherlock Holmes]

On 1/22/2019 at 9:42 PM, PIZ said:

What rounds are these WRs projected or likely to go?

 

Deebo Samuel - SC

 

Terry McLaurin - OSU

 

Andy Isabella - UMASS

 

 

Like Isabella, Renfrow and Sills

[Buffalo Junction]

On 1/24/2019 at 9:27 AM, FeelingOnYouboty said:

 

He's close friends with Harrison Phillips too. He's been a great college player for 4 years. There's a great chance he's a very good NFL player. I like the idea of having Dillard and Bradbury. Two of the best OL athletes this year. 

 

Beane/McDermott have their hands full because we need at least 3 new starters next year on the OL.

This. I’ve spent the past three years living outside of Durham and watching a ton of Wolfpack games. Bradbury is probably the best center prospect in the draft. It’s amazing how technically proficient the kid is considering he’s only been an o lineman for three years. As good a prospect as he is there’s still a lot of room to improve. Bonus is that he has a similar disposition to K Williams. The only thing I’d worry about is scheme fit. I doubt he’ll ever be a power guy with his frame. 

 

Also, keep an eye on Udoh. Elon is a small Christian school in N.C. The kid’s lacking in technique, but he has all the physical tools. Could be a late round prospect.

[YoloinOhio]

 

Edited January 25, 2019 by YoloinOhio

[whatdrought]

2 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

 

does he has a slower 40 time?  someone who started a thread yesterday said he looked slow.  Could be nice to grab one more fast guy, and a big Kelvin Benjamin type--but one who can actually, you know, catch the ball! 

 

I would love to get Deboo Samuel in the second and Anthony Johnson in the 4th.

[Franco_92]

22 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

That poor DB

 

Everything I read and see about this guy are glowing. "Will have a long career, very smart, excellent routes and hands" etc. 

So why are people also talking about grabbing him in the 4th? Why isn't he a first round talent?

[Magox]

Where is 26?  Hadn't seen him in a while

[YoloinOhio]

21 hours ago, arcane said:

Everything I read and see about this guy are glowing. "Will have a long career, very smart, excellent routes and hands" etc. 

So why are people also talking about grabbing him in the 4th? Why isn't he a first round talent?

He has average size and was one of many WRs on his team so production was there but not “wow”, and not the most “gifted” (i.e. he is overshadowed by Parris Campbell) so he’s looked at differently. He’s not the explosive type and doesn’t have exceptional size, which typically one or both will make a WR a 1st round talent - Or you can be smaller but have all world speed, and/or production vs top corners. I think he did avg 20 yards/catch, but he wasn’t #1 WR in college so most wouldn’t project him to be one in the nfl.  He only played one year in a real passing offense so his #s aren’t what some others will be. OSU technically has starters (which he was 1 of the starting outside WRs) but regularly rotate 6-7 WRs throughout the game. All of that said, his film should match what we saw this week. He was always making plays. 

Edited January 26, 2019 by YoloinOhio

[K-9]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

This is the most critical aspect of the scouting process to focus on and why we need to take with a grain of salt the positive and negative hype we hear all week. EVERY ONE of the draft eligible prospects will have had EVERY snap of their career broken down seven ways to Sunday by the scouting community before draft time. If a prospect's outstanding senior bowl week doesn't match up with what he's put on tape, he's not going to rise much, if at all.  More important than the play they display during the week, are the interactions they have with various team personnel and their teammates throughout. 

[YoloinOhio]