Did anyone notice something about Sam Darnold?

[Gugny]

9 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Whatever could make me think that?   So what do you think of the Cano trade? I think he's still really good.

 

I wasn't thrilled, but I've come to terms with it.  I like that we got a top notch closer out of it.  Now I'm reading that they're working on a 3-way trade that would send Thor to the Yankees, with the Mets ending up with Realmuto.  Mets haven't had a good catcher since Piazza. 

[dave mcbride]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

I wasn't thrilled, but I've come to terms with it.  I like that we got a top notch closer out of it.  Now I'm reading that they're working on a 3-way trade that would send Thor to the Yankees, with the Mets ending up with Realmuto.  Mets haven't had a good catcher since Piazza. 

Yep, just read about that. As a Yankees fan, I'd be thrilled, but let's see who they have to give up. Realmuto is very good. 

[Captain Hindsight]

I thought Darnold looked like a good QB. Should be fun to watch Allen and Darnold square off twice a year

[Gugny]

2 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

I thought Darnold looked like a good QB. Should be fun to watch Allen and Darnold square off twice a year

 

I agree 100%.

[BuffaninATL]

Is Sam ready to do an Aqua-Velva commercial ?

[Gugny]

9 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Yep, just read about that. As a Yankees fan, I'd be thrilled, but let's see who they have to give up. Realmuto is very good. 

 

I'm sure Jeter will go easy on them .... again, LOL!!!

[Trogdor]

 

 

10 hours ago, Blue on Blue said:

 

Joe Namath was the most famous football player on the planet in the late 1960's.  He played stylishly, effortlessly.  His release resembled the tongue of a snake.  He forced the NFL to take the AFL seriously, when he whooped their fat arses in the '68 Super Bowl.  If Joe Namath weren't in the Pro Football  Hall of Fame, they could not call it the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

There guidance is that entrance is based on stats. He threw 50 more interceptions than TDs in his career. Even his 4k yards season had more ints than TDs. He started hot and faded fast. It's not the Potential Hall of Fame. 

[dave mcbride]

2 minutes ago, Trogdor said:

 

 

There guidance is that entrance is based on stats. He threw 50 more interceptions than TDs in his career. Even his 4k yards season had more ints than TDs. He started hot and faded fast. It's not the Potential Hall of Fame. 

You should look at his advanced passer rating, which compares like to like. Most QBs threw more picks than TDs back then. The link is above.

[Gordio]

1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

Also worth noting when looking at his stats: note the Advanced Passing rating, for which 100 is league average for that year. When people look at his passer ratings, they compare them to today's stats, which is completely wrong. Namath was above average every year except one before his decline phase really set in in 1975. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NamaJo00.htm. Prior to those three seasons, teams he started for were 56-44-4 too.

 

Whatever could make me think that?   So what do you think of the Cano trade? I think he's still really good.

 

 

I am not crazy with taking on Cano's contract which is a bad one but.... I love the fact that they also acquired Diaz.  He will help shore up that bullpen.  

1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

Yep, just read about that. As a Yankees fan, I'd be thrilled, but let's see who they have to give up. Realmuto is very good. 

 

 

This would be a typical mets trade.  Give up one of the best power pitchers in the game, to their crosstown rival  in which they have him under control for three more years.  I know they need a catcher but I don't think weakening your starting pitching is the answer.  

[row_33]

1 hour ago, Gordio said:

 

Agreed, & the defense had way more to do with that Super Bowl win than Namath.  His stats were a very ordinary 17/26, 206 yards, 0 TDs, 0 Ints.  He rushed for -0- yards that day.  

 

the stats

the stats

 

all you need to do is on December 11, 2018 find out someone named Joe Namath and look up his stats

 

from that you can tell me everything important about his entire career and existence

 

Go and ***** yourself right now

 

 

[Gordio]

10 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

the stats

the stats

 

all you need to do is on December 11, 2018 find out someone named Joe Namath and look up his stats

 

from that you can tell me everything important about his entire career and existence

 

Go and ***** yourself right now

 

 

 

 

I never seen Joe Willy play as I was born in 1973.  So that may have something to with why I don't think he was very good.  I will say Namath is most certainly in the conversation of the most overrated players in NFL History.  The stats are the stats & the stats suggest, he was a sh*tty QB playing on a .500 team with a few good years sprinkled into the mix.

 

No need to throw out insults just because we have a different opinion tough guy, being as it is the Christmas season & all.  

 

PS:  I also think Lynn Swan & Terry Bradshaw are overrated.  

Edited December 11, 2018 by Gordio

[John from Riverside]

13 hours ago, PUNT750 said:

His resemblance to Joe Namath on the field.  The way he walks to the sidelines.  The way he runs the huddle.  His release of the football.  His touch passes.  

 

It's strange but I've seen many Broadway Joe games and Sam has that look!

This feels sexual in a way and is making me feel uncomfortable sir

[dave mcbride]

19 minutes ago, Gordio said:

 

 

I am not crazy with taking on Cano's contract which is a bad one but.... I love the fact that they also acquired Diaz.  He will help shore up that bullpen.  

 

 

This would be a typical mets trade.  Give up one of the best power pitchers in the game, to their crosstown rival  in which they have him under control for three more years.  I know they need a catcher but I don't think weakening your starting pitching is the answer.  

Cano was very good when he played this past season: OPS+ of 136. That's an elite-level season for him (his very good lifetime average is 127).

[Tenhigh]

6 hours ago, BurpleBull said:

 

He's an old, ranting, white man whose fixation on the past, clouds how he views present-day NFL players and the league as a whole.

 

Forgive him.

Hey, it's the Peterman Can Man!

[Gugny]

20 minutes ago, Gordio said:

 

 

I am not crazy with taking on Cano's contract which is a bad one but.... I love the fact that they also acquired Diaz.  He will help shore up that bullpen.  

 

 

This would be a typical mets trade.  Give up one of the best power pitchers in the game, to their crosstown rival  in which they have him under control for three more years.  I know they need a catcher but I don't think weakening your starting pitching is the answer.  

 

I have a bad feeling about Syndergaard's ability to stay healthy, which is why I'm okay with trading him for someone like Realmuto.  I'm a huge Syndergaard fan, too. 

[Gordio]

1 minute ago, dave mcbride said:

Cano was very good when he played this past season: OPS+ of 136. That's an elite-level season for him (his very good lifetime average is 127).

 

Yeah I know, but he is 36 & he is still owed $120 mill I believe.  I know Seattle threw in some money but that is a big contract for an organization that is notoriously cheap at times.  

Just now, Gugny said:

 

I have a bad feeling about Syndergaard's ability to stay healthy, which is why I'm okay with trading him for someone like Realmuto.  I'm a huge Syndergaard fan, too. 

 

I know, that is where I struggle with Noah but...man if they deal him & he goes on to have a great career, I don't know tough call.  If they do deal him, I really hope they don't deal him to the Yankees, anybody but them.  

[dave mcbride]

18 minutes ago, Gordio said:

 

Yeah I know, but he is 36 & he is still owed $120 mill I believe.  I know Seattle threw in some money but that is a big contract for an organization that is notoriously cheap at times.  

 

I know, that is where I struggle with Noah but...man if they deal him & he goes on to have a great career, I don't know tough call.  If they do deal him, I really hope they don't deal him to the Yankees, anybody but them.  

Have the Wilpons finally dug themselves out of the Madoff hole they ended up in? If so, they're a major market team and should be able to open up the checkbook a little. IIRC, they weren't cheap before the financial crisis. They won the Beltran sweepstakes (and he was a great signing).

[Bing Bong]

2 hours ago, FearLess Price said:

 

What is the story behind this? Before my time

He was smashed when Suzy Kolber asked for his analysis on the sideline during a Jets game. All he had to do was be sober and say something basic and stupid to Suzy. Instead he made a solid move on her on national television.

 

https://youtu.be/Gc65NC44dSk

 

"So Joe what do you think about the Jets this year?"

"I want to kiss you. I could care less about the team struruggulin..."

Edited December 11, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks

[BillsSbSoon]

13 hours ago, Watkins90 said:

Joe Namath is the worst football player to ever make the Hall of Fame. Honestly, he probably shouldn’t even be in the Hall of Fame.

I used to think that way until i really realized some of the things he did. Having a 4000 yard season in the 60's was absolutely insane. The arm strength and way he threw the ball was amazing.

And the league wouldnt have became what it did if it were not for super bowl 3.

[Bing Bong]

3 hours ago, xsoldier54 said:

I was looking at Darnold's eyes.  He looked like he was scared shitless. 

He really did look like he didn't want to be out there. He settled down after getting into the game rythm though. 

 

Honestly I feel great after watching JA show no fear ever. Just a kid having fun.

4 hours ago, tcampbell104 said:

probably the worst actor i have ever seen

One of my favorite Brett Favre quotes after his teammates were ribbing him for his movie performance.

 

"Hey Frank! How many movies have you SUCKED in??"

 

Should be Peterman's line to all the armchair haters out there. Own it and be proud you sucked in something not many get the chance to lol.

Edited December 11, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks

[bbb]

11 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

He really did look like he didn't want to be out there. He settled down after getting into the game rythm though. 

 

Honestly I feel great after watching JA show no fear ever. Just a kid having fun.

One of my favorite Brett Favre quotes after his teammates were ribbing him for his movie performance.

 

"Hey Frank! How many movies have you SUCKED in??"

 

Should be Peterman's line to all the armchair haters out there. Own it and be proud you sucked in something not many get the chance to lol.

 

My sister saw Clint Holmes (from Buffalo) in Vegas, and he acknowledged that he's a "One Hit Wonder" and then asked the audience "How many hits have you had?"  LOL 

[Gordio]

26 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Have the Wilpons finally dug themselves out of the Madoff hole they ended up in? If so, they're a major market team and should be able to open up the checkbook a little. IIRC, they weren't cheap before the financial crisis. They won the Beltran sweepstakes (and he was a great signing).

 

 

I believe they have dug out of that.  I also have read that their financial loss on the Madoff thing was overblown & that they have used that as an excuse.  They pick their spots when to spend money & have landed big free agents over the years.  With that being said, at times they have been cheap & it has cost the team.  

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

14 hours ago, KD in CA said:

 

Which also highlights how no one has yet come within light years of Marino’s ‘84 season.

 

I don’t even know what the equivalent would be in today’s NFL.  5500 yards?  6000?

 

Football is a team game. I've always been in disagreement that an NFL quarterbacks worth is their amount of Lombardi trophies. There are so many factors in a team making it to a Superbowl like having a good defense. I honestly believe as a hardcore Bills fan that Marino was the greatest pure passer the league has ever seen. I think Brady would've got knocked around more in that era and retired much earlier.

[PatsFanNH]

7 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Pure nonsense. 

What’s nonsense? They made it to ONE SB so a one hit wonder. The Jets D carried the team and won the game I mean they got 4 INT and a fumble recovery... and all the great Namath could do was get 1 TD and 3 FG? Sorry that’s a D win right there.. Namath was a 50% completion rate threwout his entire career and was a blowhard whose mouth again was bigger than his talent.  Now I’m not saying he stunk, just that his legend is bigger than his actual accomplishments.

[26CornerBlitz]

1 minute ago, PatsFanNH said:

What’s nonsense? They made it to ONE SB so a one hit wonder. The Jets D carried the team and won the game I mean they got 4 INT and a fumble recovery... and all the great Namath could do was get 1 TD and 3 FG? Sorry that’s a D win right there.. Namath was a 50% completion rate threwout his entire career and was a blowhard whose mouth again was bigger than his talent.  Now I’m not saying he stunk, just that his legend is bigger than his actual accomplishments.

 

His numbers are very good for the era he played in and your sense of history regarding his impact on the game is severely lacking. 

[PatsFanNH]

1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

His numbers are very good for the era he played in and your sense of history regarding his impact on the game is severely lacking. 

Impact on the game.. lol we will disagree, I dare say a certain steeler QB  named Bradshaw is what changed the QB position forever along with lynn Swann as a WR.   Namath didn’t “change”  or “impact” the game greatly IMO he was just a showboat in the city of showboats.  What he did bring was more casual fans in because of his showboat style. But his skill level didn’t change the game maybe his mouth did but not his talent.

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, PatsFanNH said:

Impact on the game.. lol we will disagree, I dare say a certain steeler QB  named Bradshaw is what changed the QB position forever along with lynn Swann as a WR.   Namath didn’t “change”  or “impact” the game greatly IMO he was just a showboat in the city of showboats.  What he did bring was more casual fans in because of his showboat style. But his skill level didn’t change the game maybe his mouth did but not his talent.

 

Do you know anything about the AFL and its history?  Based on your response I have to think the answer is no. 

[BurpleBull]

1 hour ago, Tenhigh said:

Hey, it's the Peterman Can Man!

 

Lol...And he will.

Edited December 11, 2018 by BurpleBull

[bbb]

15 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

What about CC and Company?

 

[ALLEN1QB]

7 hours ago, row_33 said:

 

I doubt the Pats go 2-14 while the Bills and Jets go 15-1 for the next decade 

 

 

Did I miss something? Where did I say the Pats would be 2-14 & the Bills 15-1  ???

[Yav]

Namath as a person is an absolute jerk but as a player he belongs in the HOF, just like OJ. As a player he was amazing as a person not so much. 

[PUNT750]

10 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said:

Going to be real cool watching him and Allen go at it for a long time. Patriots are going to be on the bottom of the heap for 15-20 years so enjoy now Pats fans it going to end soon. .  

 

I agree.  Very soon it will be a wide-open AFC-EAST and that will be fun.  Good post!

 

[QuoteTheRaven83]

So Sam, moves around like a drunken old man?

[PUNT750]

7 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

I wasn't thrilled, but I've come to terms with it.  I like that we got a top notch closer out of it.  Now I'm reading that they're working on a 3-way trade that would send Thor to the Yankees, with the Mets ending up with Realmuto.  Mets haven't had a good catcher since Piazza. 

 

I hope the Yankees dump Sanchez.  He's not a team player and a liability behind the dish!

[Gugny]

33 minutes ago, PUNT750 said:

 

I hope the Yankees dump Sanchez.  He's not a team player and a liability behind the dish!

 

He played well for Girardi.  Letting Joe go was very, very stupid, IMO.  I used to love the Yankees (watched them and the Mets every night for many years).  When they got Alex Rodriguez, I swore I wouldn't root for them until he was gone.  I stuck to it.  I was finally beginning to like them again, then they brought Boone in - who I think is absolutely horrible.  If they get Machado, I'll probably never root for them again.  That guy is a pure scumbag.  Old George must be rolling over in his grave. 

[Tcali]

19 hours ago, WhickedWilliams said:

 

Allen could do it in one throw if we had any receivers to “Track” it!

 

 

But none could block lineman one on one like Freddy Jackson!

Freddy was awesome. he would be borderline HofF if he didnt start his NFL career at almost 27

[PUNT750]

14 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

He played well for Girardi.  Letting Joe go was very, very stupid, IMO.  I used to love the Yankees (watched them and the Mets every night for many years).  When they got Alex Rodriguez, I swore I wouldn't root for them until he was gone.  I stuck to it.  I was finally beginning to like them again, then they brought Boone in - who I think is absolutely horrible.  If they get Machado, I'll probably never root for them again.  That guy is a pure scumbag.  Old George must be rolling over in his grave. 

I agree about Girardi.  I have to believe some star players thought he was too tough on them.  No to Machado - spare us..  Their infield is a mess right now.

[Trogdor]

19 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

You should look at his advanced passer rating, which compares like to like. Most QBs threw more picks than TDs back then. The link is above.

The Hall of Fame isn't about most players. It's supposed to be the elite few. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

17 hours ago, bbb said:

 

My sister saw Clint Holmes (from Buffalo) in Vegas, and he acknowledged that he's a "One Hit Wonder" and then asked the audience "How many hits have you had?"  LOL 

THAT was a hit?!  ??

[dave mcbride]

13 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

He played well for Girardi.  Letting Joe go was very, very stupid, IMO.  I used to love the Yankees (watched them and the Mets every night for many years).  When they got Alex Rodriguez, I swore I wouldn't root for them until he was gone.  I stuck to it.  I was finally beginning to like them again, then they brought Boone in - who I think is absolutely horrible.  If they get Machado, I'll probably never root for them again.  That guy is a pure scumbag.  Old George must be rolling over in his grave. 

I think Boone did a good job overall. Some of the in-game managing stuff with the staff/relievers, yeah, but that's a relatively small part of the job all things considered. The hardest part is motivating a bunch of multi, multi- millionaires to play hard and play hard for each other. He's good at that, as was Torre. Girardi, who ai really liked, wore out his welcome with too many players, and baseball is a players' game in the end. Plus they won 100 games with a decent amount of injury time to talented players. Btw, speaking of hall of fame, Harold Freaking Baines???? You have gotta be kidding me.

Edited December 12, 2018 by dave mcbride