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HOUSE Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) To much pressure here Edited December 9, 2018 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Man with No Name Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 On 12/6/2018 at 5:13 PM, BuffaninATL said: Not sure if I agree with how you vetted your list of "good looking" QBs .... just saying - questionable at best. Young, Marino, Elway - yes.....the others, ummmm - not so much Elway looks like a horse. Young, Marino, Brady stand alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I see both battling for the division annually over the next decade plus, while the Pats fall into irrelevance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Now Moment Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 On 12/6/2018 at 2:42 PM, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: I put Darnold in here because I am orettt much convinced all these guys have the right stuff. its just who is going to get the right coaching staff to unlock it. Like McVay unlocked in Goff or Nagy is unlocking in Trubisky or Reid with Mahomes. Darnold, right now is stuck on a team with a first time/some say in over his head Offensive Coordinator, No Talent Around him and a Defensive Minded Head Coach. Now how much can change in one offseason? The Jets could find a Offensive Minded Head Coach who is and/or hires a innovated offensive coordinator. The jets do have similar spending money to Buffalo and they could also score offensive talent in Free Agency. Then there is the draft. im not guaranteeing it. But if the Jets try to work the Rams/Bears model their entire offense could look radically different by next year. And as wobbly as you say Darnold has looked to...don’t you think there were Seahawk, Cardinal, Eagle fans all snickering about chow bad Goff looked under Fisher? Who says you need an offensive minded head coach to have a good offense? If you have an offensive coordinator that knows what he's doing, then you are fine. Daboll has shown in the last few weeks that he knows how to use players with the speed of Foster and Mckenzie. Let the man work. We need an injection of talent on that side of the ball that I'm sure we will see this year because of the assets we have. We have a guy who can chuck it now which will open up the playbook. He looks for chunk yardage not a dropdown for 3 yards. The Goff situation isn't that cut and dry. They didn't have the proper weapons and the offensive coordinator was working with a rookie and few weapons...just like Daboll. Tough situation to be in. Sometimes patience is the answer. See how the following season they brought in more talent around him. They built up that offense just like Buffalo could do this offseason with their assets. I know, I'm anxious too but this is the big offseason post rookie season that helped the Rams and the Eagles jumpstart their teams. Hoping for the same here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 On 12/6/2018 at 3:00 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: ? advocate: Allen’s passing numbers are on par with Lamar Jackson. What distance are most of his passes that are incomplete? If you’re going to look at stats alone, it’s important to look at them all, in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pete Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Fantasy football playoffs- do I start Josh Allen vs Jets or Deshawn Watson vs Indy. I swapped out Watson for Allen. Did I make the right call? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 On 12/7/2018 at 1:10 PM, VW82 said: I don’t think there’s any question those other guys are ahead right now, but it’s really early for all three. Baker looks like the surest thing to me. Allen still has the biggest risk (accuracy and football IQ) but if he ever gets those parts figured out he maybe has the highest upside too. We’re getting way ahead of ourselves though. Step one is to make sure they’re long-term NFL QBs. No one knows that for sure about any of them right now, including the teams they play for, and even themselves (but least of all us). Given that Darnold has by far more interceptions than Allen, how do you determine Allen has a bigger accuracy issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 One thing is for sure, this game today is going to determine how the rest of their careers go. That much is undeniable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Allen will crush the Jets today. Darnold will do poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Darnold is better now and will be better overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDude Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) Allen is trash compared to Darnold, time will prove that out. Allen is a 50% completion running QB, he will be out of the league in 2-3 years, Darnold will likely play 10+ years for the Jets. Edited December 9, 2018 by PeterDude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Last two posts by the eternal Allen haters. So ridiculous. I'd pick Josh over Darnold and Rosen any time. Mayfield was taken first and he is by far the better one so far. But anyone that says he "knows" for sure how these QBs will look 4-5 years from now are full of it. "It" not being a positive quality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) Allen looked light years better then Darnold. I would be worried if I was the Jets about the future of their franchise. Edited December 9, 2018 by Boca BIlls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I haven't read all of the replies but... I think Josh Allen got hurt today. At one point I thought he was linking a little. Anyway, his play really changed during the game and I think that may have been the reason. The Bills right now ARE Josh Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHowardman Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 25 minutes ago, PeterDude said: Allen is trash compared to Darnold, time will prove that out. Allen is a 50% completion running QB, he will be out of the league in 2-3 years, Darnold will likely play 10+ years for the Jets. You are 100% correct. I cannot understand what Buffalo Bills fans see in QB Josh Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 minute ago, PearlHowardman said: You are 100% correct. I cannot understand what Buffalo Bills fans see in QB Josh Allen. B.c you have to WATCH him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: Allen looked light years better then Darnold. I would be worried if I was the Jets about the future of their franchise. Seriously? I like Allen but Darnold was the better of the two today. Edited December 9, 2018 by Binghamton Beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Just now, Binghamton Beast said: Seriously? I like Allen but Darnold was the better of the two today. Neh, not really. Darnold made two brilliant passes. But on the whole he was FAR less of a factor than the Bills ST in this game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Neh, not really. Darnold made two brilliant passes. But on the whole he was FAR less of a factor than the Bills ST in this game. I’m not sure what the Bills ST’s has to do with the QB play for either team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDude Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: Neh, not really. Darnold made two brilliant passes. But on the whole he was FAR less of a factor than the Bills ST in this game. And here folks, we get to see into the mind of a "kool-aid drinker". It's truly amazing, belief in the fantastical can be so blinding in some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Just now, Binghamton Beast said: I’m not sure what the Bills ST’s has to do with the QB play for either team. The Bills STs directly accounted for -6 points, plus an easy TD drive. That's 13 points, or what would have amounted to a pretty big win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: The Bills STs directly accounted for -6 points, plus an easy TD drive. That's 13 points, or what would have amounted to a pretty big win. I get that. Throwing the ball, Darnold was better. It’s not that big of a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Just now, Binghamton Beast said: I get that. Throwing the ball, Darnold was better. It’s not that big of a deal. I'm not even sure that's the case. I'll admit, he made two BRILLIANT throws. But the rest of the game was to me underwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, PeterDude said: And here folks, we get to see into the mind of a "kool-aid drinker". It's truly amazing, belief in the fantastical can be so blinding in some people. Bro, your prior comments in this thread have been the dumbest I’ve seen over the recent time period and I’m not even saying I agree with the guy you were quoting. You seriously look like an a** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Seriously? I like Allen but Darnold was the better of the two today. Nope wrong, you didnt WATCH the game if you say that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: I'm not even sure that's the case. I'll admit, he made two BRILLIANT throws. But the rest of the game was to me underwhelming. I'd say what makes the assessment difficult is it felt like they were playing the game at two different difficulty settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I'd say what makes the assessment difficult is it felt like they were playing the game at two different difficulty settings. Correct, and I think Allen had a bigger impact ALL DAY than Darnold did. Again, Darnold made two HUGE throws late. So there's probably some recency bias involved there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDude Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I'd say what makes the assessment difficult is it felt like they were playing the game at two different difficulty settings. That's just MORE excuses, never ending it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: I'd say what makes the assessment difficult is it felt like they were playing the game at two different difficulty settings. This is true. Darnold ( who has been pressured most of the year btw) had mostly no pressure from the Bills rush all day. He was better than Allen today imo, but some decent protection and a lot fewer drops by WRs would have narrowed the gap considerably. The Jets O is bad, but the Bills are worse. Allen gets very little help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 44 minutes ago, PeterDude said: Allen is trash compared to Darnold, time will prove that out. Allen is a 50% completion running QB, he will be out of the league in 2-3 years, Darnold will likely play 10+ years for the Jets. Care to make a bet on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Hard for this game for Allen. Lost McCoy and Ivory. Zay Jones is a great second WR. Full of not so good WRS. TE'S are horrible. O-Line cannot block. Might as well put everything in his hands to win the game. Thats hard to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 24 minutes ago, cd1 said: I haven't read all of the replies but... I think Josh Allen got hurt today. At one point I thought he was linking a little. Anyway, his play really changed during the game and I think that may have been the reason. The Bills right now ARE Josh Allen. I thought he got too over confident from his last two games as was too reckless with the ball today. That's something he can easily learn from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, PeterDude said: That's just MORE excuses, never ending it seems. Its not excuses....its reality but hey if your confident on the Josh Allen is going to be out of the league then accept my bet Just now, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I thought he got too over confident from his last two games as was too reckless with the ball today. That's something he can easily learn from. There was a point in the game from all the late hits Josh was taking where he couldnt get off the ground...he had to get be lifted up by his OL (that was not protecting him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Correct, and I think Allen had a bigger impact ALL DAY than Darnold did. Again, Darnold made two HUGE throws late. So there's probably some recency bias involved there. Right first half of the game Allen leads the Offense across the whole field and they get two TDs. For the Jets they get 13pts starting from past the 50. 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Its not excuses....its reality but hey if your confident on the Josh Allen is going to be out of the league then accept my bet There was a point in the game from all the late hits Josh was taking where he couldnt get off the ground...he had to get be lifted up by his OL (that was not protecting him) I don't think it was a coincidence he was running less in the 2nd half he was taking a beating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: Right first half of the game Allen leads the Offense across the whole field and they get two TDs. For the Jets they get 13pts starting from past the 50. I don't think it was a coincidence he was running less in the 2nd half he was taking a beating. The ST is the reason this game was a loss. Period, end of discussion. -6 points on two missed FG, and a TD drive that started in the red zone. Just garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHowardman Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, PeterDude said: That's just MORE excuses, never ending it seems. They're Josh Allen Kool-Aid drinkers, for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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