TAinLack. Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 7 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Good, reliable TE, wished we would of kept him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 7 hours ago, T master said: I don't blame them the Bills should have never let him out the door the guy was always there when the team needed him & he was a team guy & 10 times more dependable than Clay for a lot less money !! I'll almost bet he burns the Bills for at least one good play during the game today !! I hated him getting released...dude always made clutch plays during real games not in preseason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 so what? waste of cap space for your no. 3 TE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills4everNY Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 That's par for the course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 6 hours ago, Phil The Thrill said: Potential or not, the bottom line is he has been a more productive WR than O’Leary. I'll go with the player who is a natural Tight End over a former QB trying to play Tight End. O'Leary may not have been a budding All-Pro, but I don't see Thomas becoming more than a 3rd string Tight End. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: I'll go with the player who is a natural Tight End over a former QB trying to play Tight End. O'Leary may not have been a budding All-Pro, but I don't see Thomas becoming more than a 3rd string Tight End. I guess the point is that neither of them are NFL Tight Ends. You should keep swinging but don’t ever settle for the 3rd TE on one of the worst teams in the league. Hold yourself to a higher standard. Do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I guess the point is that neither of them are NFL Tight Ends. You should keep swinging but don’t ever settle for the 3rd TE on one of the worst teams in the league. Hold yourself to a higher standard. Do better. Disagree, I think O'Leary is an NFL Tight End. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Disagree, I think O'Leary is an NFL Tight End. He's nothing special and he might not even have a job if it weren't for a season ending injury to MarQueis Gray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He's nothing special and he might not even have a job if it weren't for a season ending injury to MarQueis Gray. Sure paid off to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) why extend someone who literally has no effect on whether a team wins or loses before you see what else might be out there in the off-season? Edited December 2, 2018 by Domdab99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 54 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I'll go with the player who is a natural Tight End over a former QB trying to play Tight End. O'Leary may not have been a budding All-Pro, but I don't see Thomas becoming more than a 3rd string Tight End. Then how do you account for the fact that Logan Thomas has been more productive than O’Leary this season? 3rd strong TE or not, he has caught more passes and gained more yards than O’Leary has this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 49 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Disagree, I think O'Leary is an NFL Tight End. He has 7 more catches and 77 more yards than I do this season. At best, he’s a 3rd TE on a bad team. There’s no reason to ever protect a guy like that. Take a shot on a different fringe guy and hope that he’s better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needle Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: He has 7 more catches and 77 more yards than I do this season. At best, he’s a 3rd TE on a bad team. There’s no reason to ever protect a guy like that. Take a shot on a different fringe guy and hope that he’s better. Complete nonsense. Good teams sign reliable backups on the cheap. He will stick around the NFL for awhile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Needle said: Complete nonsense. Good teams sign reliable backups on the cheap. He will stick around the NFL for awhile Has this team suffered at all by trying Croom instead? How many more games would they have won with O’Leary’s 7 catches? The back of roster JAGs are 100% replaceable. As soon as you realize a guy is no better or worse than street FAs, it’s time to try someone new. Whether it works or not you are no worse off. You should NEVER pay for a guy that can be replaced by an UDFA. That’s a poor business decision and typical of the Dolphins. I hope that he hauls in another 1/2 catch a game for them next year for $1.5M. Edited December 2, 2018 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: He has 7 more catches and 77 more yards than I do this season. At best, he’s a 3rd TE on a bad team. There’s no reason to ever protect a guy like that. Take a shot on a different fringe guy and hope that he’s better. Like Logan Thomas? A player who is in his 3rd year, and still transitioning to the position? Again I will go with the player who is a natural at their position. 1 hour ago, Phil The Thrill said: Then how do you account for the fact that Logan Thomas has been more productive than O’Leary this season? 3rd strong TE or not, he has caught more passes and gained more yards than O’Leary has this season I don't know how the Dolphins use him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needle Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 19 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Has this team suffered at all by trying Croom instead? Hoe many more games would they have won with O’Leary’s 7 catches? The back of roster JAGs are 100% replaceable. As soon as you realize a guy is no better or worse than street FAs, it’s time to try someone new. Whether it works or not you are no worse off. You should NEVER pay for a guy that can be replaced by an UDFA. That’s a poor business decision and typical of the Dolphins. I hope that he hauls in another 1/2 catch a game for them next year for $1.5M. He's 26. Look around the league and you will find tons of quality players who have spent time on practice squads. You will find players who have had to bounce around with different teams until they found their place. You will find TEs that don't fill the fantasy stat sheet but organizations value. Your argument makes it seem like guys can't develop or that anyone less talented than "Jimmy Graham" are worthless. It's a low risk signing that hasn't hurt the Dolphins in the least. You can chase the Charles Clay's if you want but I'd like to see more player development from this team. Also keeping a guy like O'Leary around hardly probibits you from looking for more TEs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 He’s their 3rd string tight end. I liked him, but there are worse things to lament over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 6 hours ago, Mark Vader said: Like Logan Thomas? A player who is in his 3rd year, and still transitioning to the position? Again I will go with the player who is a natural at their position. I don't know how the Dolphins use him. My point is that it doesn’t matter. You shouldn’t settle on any of those guys. Next year, try someone else new. You can throw a rock and find the production that those guys give you. Keep cycling through until you find guys that can actually play. 5 hours ago, Needle said: He's 26. Look around the league and you will find tons of quality players who have spent time on practice squads. You will find players who have had to bounce around with different teams until they found their place. You will find TEs that don't fill the fantasy stat sheet but organizations value. Your argument makes it seem like guys can't develop or that anyone less talented than "Jimmy Graham" are worthless. It's a low risk signing that hasn't hurt the Dolphins in the least. You can chase the Charles Clay's if you want but I'd like to see more player development from this team. Also keeping a guy like O'Leary around hardly probibits you from looking for more TEs. I agree with this. I’m not saying that he is worthless. He’s a JAG. I’m never going to be upset when a JAG moves on. It is refreshing when a franchise doesn’t settle. O’Leary is an average 3rd TE. That’s not a hard role to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaywrizzo Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 18 hours ago, T master said: I don't blame them the Bills should have never let him out the door the guy was always there when the team needed him & he was a team guy & 10 times more dependable than Clay for a lot less money !! I'll almost bet he burns the Bills for at least one good play during the game today !! Hahahahahahaha...Croom is a much better TE...already! And Logan Thomas is a good backup. Only problem I have with them getting rid of O'leary is, they didn't send Clay out the door with him....People still crying over a slow.....under average blocker in O'Leary? Please stop it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Jaywrizzo said: Hahahahahahaha...Croom is a much better TE...already! And Logan Thomas is a good backup. Only problem I have with them getting rid of O'leary is, they didn't send Clay out the door with him....People still crying over a slow.....under average blocker in O'Leary? Please stop it! It's as if the Bills let a Hall of Fame talent go who has gone on to tear up the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 20 hours ago, Augie said: Did you know his grandfather....... Yes I know he is a Bills fan. Seen him in Bills gear at airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needle Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: My point is that it doesn’t matter. You shouldn’t settle on any of those guys. Next year, try someone else new. You can throw a rock and find the production that those guys give you. Keep cycling through until you find guys that can actually play. I agree with this. I’m not saying that he is worthless. He’s a JAG. I’m never going to be upset when a JAG moves on. It is refreshing when a franchise doesn’t settle. O’Leary is an average 3rd TE. That’s not a hard role to replace. True he is not hard to replace. I don't think it matters too much at all. He might carve out a career and he might not. We need significant upgrades on the side of the ball. I really wanted Vance McDonald to be our guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 In 3 years he has 39 catches for 550 yards. Hes a JAG. Thought he was an ok player, dont think our record is any different with him in the lineup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needle Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Jaywrizzo said: Hahahahahahaha...Croom is a much better TE...already! And Logan Thomas is a good backup. Only problem I have with them getting rid of O'leary is, they didn't send Clay out the door with him....People still crying over a slow.....under average blocker in O'Leary? Please stop it! No one is crying. Alot of us just saw O'Leary as a nice backup piece. He delivered a handful of times he was called on and is still young. By all professional accounts he is an above average blocker too. Adam Gase has had alot of success at the TE position and he drafted two in the first four rounds last year. He must think something of O'Leary too. I don't mind Croom or Thomas but I would bet both are out of the league alot sooner than O'Leary. It's no great mistake by the Bills. It might just be a small one though. This staff has been hell bent on purging draft picks from the last regime. He was just next I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: In 3 years he has 39 catches for 550 yards. Hes a JAG. Thought he was an ok player, dont think our record is any different with him in the lineup ....hard to gauge with our past, highly prolific passing game.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 This sounds like the kvetching over Gillslee versus Tolbert. Much ado about nothing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 42 minutes ago, Needle said: True he is not hard to replace. I don't think it matters too much at all. He might carve out a career and he might not. We need significant upgrades on the side of the ball. I really wanted Vance McDonald to be our guy. Man I had a man crush for McDonald since the draft. Would have loved to move on him. Oh well. His presence will make Jesse James available though. Jesse James a Buffalo Bill almost seems meant to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 47 minutes ago, Needle said: True he is not hard to replace. I don't think it matters too much at all. He might carve out a career and he might not. We need significant upgrades on the side of the ball. I really wanted Vance McDonald to be our guy. 100% agree on the infusion of talent needed on offense. Vance McDonald would have been a great addition!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: Yes I know he is a Bills fan. Seen him in Bills gear at airport. 'Was'...? Edited December 2, 2018 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 22 hours ago, Phil The Thrill said: He’s actually an exceptional athlete who has shown good flashes as a receiver. I think the Bills are hoping his potential will finally translate into production. 77 yards on the season suggests the Bills aren't missing much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mountain Man said: 77 yards on the season suggests the Bills aren't missing much They are talking about those essential 77 yards now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Take a picture of their shoes, Harry. It might come in handy at some future date. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaywrizzo Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Needle said: No one is crying. Alot of us just saw O'Leary as a nice backup piece. He delivered a handful of times he was called on and is still young. By all professional accounts he is an above average blocker too. Adam Gase has had alot of success at the TE position and he drafted two in the first four rounds last year. He must think something of O'Leary too. I don't mind Croom or Thomas but I would bet both are out of the league alot sooner than O'Leary. It's no great mistake by the Bills. It might just be a small one though. This staff has been hell bent on purging draft picks from the last regime. He was just next I guess. Croom will be a star...as soon as Josh Allen realizes Croom is a young QBs best friend.....I didn't mind O'Leary, would've kept him over Clay....nothing stands out about O'Leary. 4 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It's as if the Bills let a Hall of Fame talent go who has gone on to tear up the league. Hahahahaha.....yeah, if you listen to the people on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 Just now, Jaywrizzo said: Croom will be a star...as soon as Josh Allen realizes Croom is a young QBs best friend.....I didn't mind O'Leary, would've kept him over Clay....nothing stands out about O'Leary. That wouldn't have made any sense from a personnel or a cap perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 I always liked Nick O'Leary. I hope he can care out a career for himself. But he is not the most gifted player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 O'Leary absolutely gashing the Bills so far 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaywrizzo Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That wouldn't have made any sense from a personnel or a cap perspective. Oh yeah...tell me that again...after that clown couldn't get back to that last pass...leave him in Miami, with O'Leary! Edited December 3, 2018 by Jaywrizzo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 On 12/1/2018 at 4:09 PM, BADOLBILZ said: Yeah that was Robert Royal's signature moment with the Bills. He was the *best* of about 15 free agents they signed that offseason. When he was with Washington there was a hilarious NFL films video of a particular game where Royal dropped like 5 easy passes and the Redskins radio team was going nuts........I have never heard a home radio team trash a home team player like that.? As time went on with the Bills, opposing defenses would just let him run free basically daring the Bills to throw to him. I don't think that most posters will be able to believe the bolded above. When you told me this in the parking lot before a game that this was going on I was sure that you were mistaken. Then I was sitting upstairs with a perfect view of Royal streaking down the field completely alone for the entire game. The defense did not even try to cover him!!! I never saw that before or after on a consistent basis. Have you ever seen this situation with any other professional player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 Serious Question. How long will the tribute video be for Jack Nicholson's nephew when he returns to New Era with no gloves on Sunday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 I heard he arm wrestled Aaron Williams and will be 'Leading the Charge' this Sunday unless Roscoe can find a ride to the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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