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The new trend in the NFL, and recipe for success. Is to stack your roster around a competent rookie QB. It allows you to spend money on key pieces and spread the wealth throughout the roster while your QB is in a rookie contract. It is clearly a new formula that has worked good for the teams who’s rookie QB has played well. We have wasted atleast a year or 2 of these prime years due to the fact that Allen is so raw. He won’t be ready to lead this team to a super bowl until his rookie contract is up and if he does become great his contract will then end up taking up the money needed to build such a stacked roster. Not saying we can’t end up building a young team through the draft but we lost the opportunity to follow the trend of a lot of successful teams.

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That's nothing new.

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2 minutes ago, Rebel101 said:

The new trend in the NFL, and recipe for success. Is to stack your roster around a competent rookie QB. It allows you to spend money on key pieces and spread the wealth throughout the roster while your QB is in a rookie contract. It is clearly a new formula that has worked good for the teams who’s rookie QB has played well. We have wasted atleast a year or 2 of these prime years due to the fact that Allen is so raw. He won’t be ready to lead this team to a super bowl until his rookie contract is up and if he does become great his contract will then end up taking up the money needed to build such a stacked roster. Not saying we can’t end up building a young team through the draft but we lost the opportunity to follow the trend of a lot of successful teams.

The only rookie QB I can see playing somewhat well is Mayfield. And it ain’t like the Browns are tearing it up. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Rebel101 said:

The new trend in the NFL, and recipe for success. Is to stack your roster around a competent rookie QB. It allows you to spend money on key pieces and spread the wealth throughout the roster while your QB is in a rookie contract. It is clearly a new formula that has worked good for the teams who’s rookie QB has played well. We have wasted atleast a year or 2 of these prime years due to the fact that Allen is so raw. He won’t be ready to lead this team to a super bowl until his rookie contract is up and if he does become great his contract will then end up taking up the money needed to build such a stacked roster. Not saying we can’t end up building a young team through the draft but we lost the opportunity to follow the trend of a lot of successful teams.

 

Don't ya think that's what they'll try to do next year?

 

The rest is pure speculation...

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“Around a competent rookie QB”

 

Mayfield is the highest rated rookie and he’s still ranked 26th in the league. No one is a sure bet competent QB. 

 

You act like this is the easy part. 

You’re literally basing your “trend” off of Mahomes and Goff. 

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2 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:

“Around a competent rookie QB”

 

Mayfield is the highest rated rookie and he’s still ranked 26th in the league. No one is a sure bet competent QB. 

 

You act like this is the easy part. 

You’re literally basing your “trend” off of Mahomes and Goff. 

It has to start somewhere....

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We need creme pie throwing emojis, or long canes used to yank people off stages. 

Who doesn't love a good pie to the face?!

It wld also give threads like this a reason to exist

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The way I see it is I'll be thrilled if Allen follows in Goff's footsteps.  You know, declared a "bust" his rookie season then surrounded with talent in his 2nd year and now in his 3rd year functioning as an elite level QB leading a 10 - 1 team.  Now that would be sweet and Allen would still be on his rookie contract.

 

Have I missed anything? 

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5 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:

“Around a competent rookie QB”

 

Mayfield is the highest rated rookie and he’s still ranked 26th in the league. No one is a sure bet competent QB. 

 

You act like this is the easy part. 

You’re literally basing your “trend” off of Mahomes and Goff. 

 

Yup. One didn't play as a rookie the other looked like a bust as a rookie.

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The Kansas City roster was already stacked when they traded up for Mahomes. He stepped into a real perfect situation. I hope Andy Reid doesn't screw him up and we are seeing some kinks in the armor. But he is very good. 

 

The Rams got the right coach and did a good job adding pieces for Goff. Perfect scheme for him and an amazing running back as well. 

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26 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:

“Around a competent rookie QB”

 

Mayfield is the highest rated rookie and he’s still ranked 26th in the league. No one is a sure bet competent QB. 

 

You act like this is the easy part. 

You’re literally basing your “trend” off of Mahomes and Goff. 

 

Mahomes, who played one game his rookie year and Goff who everyone was convinced was a bust his rookie year.

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Competent rookie QB and stacking the team isn't exactly a trend. Isn't that the goal of every team unless the have a competent vet QB?

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Well they purged the roster of players that didn't contribute that would have request top dollar to continue to not contribute so maybe they have a plan in the works...?

 

I'm just speculating.

 

 

Also I love that when trying to swipe "speculating" it first picked "supervillain"

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  The psychiatrist couches will be full in Buffalo if the Rams and Chiefs do not meet in the SB.  Worse if somebody like Belichick beats the Ram with his defense in a 17-14 victory in the SB.  People will stay in their beds laying in the fetal position.

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50 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:

“Around a competent rookie QB”

 

Mayfield is the highest rated rookie and he’s still ranked 26th in the league. No one is a sure bet competent QB. 

 

You act like this is the easy part. 

You’re literally basing your “trend” off of Mahomes and Goff. 

It's been mostly positive for first round QB's these last few drafts.

 

It would be the Bills luck to finally take one in the bust year.

 

I know I'm beating a dead horse, but it's entirely possible none of these QB's are legit and Pegula screwed the pooch with his GM/HC nonsense in 17.

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You make a lot of assumptions about Allen's development.   You realize that your assumptions are your opinion and not fact, right?

 

If you look back to Jared Goff 's rookie year, many were declaring him a bust.  We see how that turned out.

 

I believe Allen will be the qb we need. The Bills are right on schedule for following the NFL trend of which you spoke.

 

But thank you for your attempt to ***** defeat out of the jaws of victory.

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Ok, so you don't like Josh Allen. Thanks for the perspective. :thumbsup:

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Meanwhile, the Sabres have won 6 straight games and moved up to 3rd in the division.

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I'm guessing he meant rookie contract and not rookie season.  In saying that - you just have to see with the boat load of cap space they have and hope they accomplish it. 

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1 hour ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:

“Around a competent rookie QB”

 

Mayfield is the highest rated rookie and he’s still ranked 26th in the league. No one is a sure bet competent QB. 

 

You act like this is the easy part. 

You’re literally basing your “trend” off of Mahomes and Goff. 

 

And they didn't really stack their offense until after their rookie season.

 

 

51 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

 

It's been mostly positive for first round QB's these last few drafts.

 

It would be the Bills luck to finally take one in the bust year.

 

I know I'm beating a dead horse, but it's entirely possible none of these QB's are legit and Pegula screwed the pooch with his GM/HC nonsense in 17.

 

So if he had selected a different coach/GM the results would have been different?  For the most part about 30% of QB's elevate to franchise level so if Allen flames out, the only thing you can say about McD and Beane is welcome to the club.

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46 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said:

You make a lot of assumptions about Allen's development.   You realize that your assumptions are your opinion and not fact, right?

 

If you look back to Jared Goff 's rookie year, many were declaring him a bust.  We see how that turned out.

 

I believe Allen will be the qb we need. The Bills are right on schedule for following the NFL trend of which you spoke.

 

But thank you for your attempt to ***** defeat out of the jaws of victory.

It's kind of funny that the particular s word you used is censored. I would venture a guess that it's used appropriately 90 percent of the time.

5 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

And they didn't really stack their offense until after their rookie season.

 

 

 

So if he had selected a different coach/GM the results would have been different?  For the most part about 30% of QB's elevate to franchise level so if Allen flames out, the only thing you can say about McD and Beane is welcome to the club.

My point was had they gone the normal route and fired Whaley well before the draft, we may have taken a quarterback. And it's possible that the 17 draft was grossly underrated and the 18 draft was grossly overrated.

 

Time will tell.

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When did they legalize the forward pass?

 

You have to be able to run the ball in Buffalo with the weather.

 

Defense wins championships.

 

It's kind of dark under this rock.

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2 hours ago, Rebel101 said:

The new trend in the NFL, and recipe for success. Is to stack your roster around a competent rookie QB. It allows you to spend money on key pieces and spread the wealth throughout the roster while your QB is in a rookie contract. It is clearly a new formula that has worked good for the teams who’s rookie QB has played well. We have wasted atleast a year or 2 of these prime years due to the fact that Allen is so raw. He won’t be ready to lead this team to a super bowl until his rookie contract is up and if he does become great his contract will then end up taking up the money needed to build such a stacked roster. Not saying we can’t end up building a young team through the draft but we lost the opportunity to follow the trend of a lot of successful teams.

 

 

You are confusing your opinion with what is happening.

 

Chicago/LA Rams - the QBs played their rookie years with subpar offensive talent.  They both struggled badly in their rookie year.  Year 2 they began amassing offensive talent.  Year 3 the Rams went after a ton of defensive help because their offense got them to the playoffs and then knocked right out.  

 

KC - they amassed the talent for Alex Smith and then after sitting a year (so again year 2 for Mahomes) they let him play.

 

Cleveland, NY, and Arizona all drafted QBs and do not have a ton of talent around them.  Cleveland might have the most, but they have chosen to allow multiple 1st round WRs leave during this season and over paid for Landry and his production.

 

The Bills drafted their QB and will be amassing the offensive talent in year 2 just like all of the other teams with their rookie QB.  They have wasted nothing that every other team with a young QB is not going through.

 

The issue is your opinion that he won’t be ready until year 5 to lead the team when he has been just as good or better than Darnold and Rosen and was on par with Mayfield before the injury.  Mayfield has pulled away the last couple of weeks.

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2 hours ago, MJS said:

That's nothing new.

 

Been the plan since 1982 in the NfL

 

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