Why did Rex only get 2 years?

[Talley56]

Rex may have gotten 2 years with the Bills but he got 8 years to be a HC.  After the first two years where the Jets did go on playoff runs his teams basically took a step back every season.  This is McDermott’s 2nd year as a HC.  In his 1st year he led his team to their first playoff appearance in 17 years.  I think he deserves at least another year or two before the jury decides what kind of HC he really is.

[QCity]

5 hours ago, BillsInWilmingtonNC said:

 Rex's plan was to bring in his brother so he didn't have to work as much and they could go to Sabres games together.

 

I remember getting blown out at home by the Pats and seeing Rex on TV at the Cubs game the next day. To say his heart wasn't in it is being kind. The guy was basically a con artist. He assembled the largest coaching staff in the league (two DB coaches, seriously?) comprised of all of his old friends and family on the Pegula's dime. One last paycheck before retirement, and he pulled it off.

[without a drought]

When the circus comes to town, you know it's only a matter of time before they take down the tents and get on their tandem bikes and ride into the sunset.

[Fadingpain]

13 hours ago, RosenNOTchosen1 said:

If my memory serves me correct this season is much worse than a couple years ago under Rex. Under Rex the team was very competitive and was almost in every single game that is played. Why did Ryan only get 2 years but with McDermott it's an automatic that he's coming back?

 

?

 

 

In my opinion he became too much of a clown/joke show for Pegula's taste and he didn't like the way he represented the franchise.

 

That also directly relates to why Pegula fell in love with the "faith base winner" Sean McDermott.  He is the exact opposite of Rex Ryan.  Very conservative, serious, over-achieving, disciplinarian type with no sense of humor.

 

He is the anti-Rex.

 

If you understand why Pegula loves McDermott, you'll also understand why he fired Rex.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 5, 2018 by Fadingpain

[Soda Popinski]

Well when you destroy an entire defense in two years, and go from 9-7 and on the cusp of being a playoff team to 7-9 again and going no where that stuff happens.    

 

There was also an internal power struggle between him and Whaley where Whaley was going behind his back to the owners, as well as the players doing the same.   The place was a toxic mess and a purge was necessary.  

[Peter]

God forbid that anyone should have a freaking personality.

 

The Clemson helmet was because his son went to Clemson and he had some fun with it.

 

The dog biscuit thing was for charity and the Bills supported it.

 

Rex is a sports fan as are most of us on this board.  He went to a world series game in Cleveland that did not interfere with his responsibilities (and, as I recall, left early to get back to Buffalo).  Oh my God!?!  The horror.  He also went to Sabres games . . . before they actually were good.  God forbid!

 

The Pegulas and the Bills embraced the fact that he had a personality and even had a web show prior to the second season.

 

Rex also embraced Buffalo and the Buffalo Bills.  I liked that.  I also liked that he knew who Walt Patulski was and could reference him while he was having fun when he jumped in on a media conference call with the Patriots or knew who the hell Cookie Gilchrist was and could naturally recite - Lookie lookie here comes Cookie - without any prompting.

 

Say what you will, the guy was all in on the Bills and Buffalo. We are now stuck with an unwatchable team that McCoach has sucked the life out of.  If you have any doubt, take a look at the empty seats in the stands in December and the $7 tickets now.

 

P.S.  People also claimed that he disrespected Billy B and Brady. He had a funny way of doing that.  Rex actually said that they probably were both the best in the history of the game.

Edited November 5, 2018 by Peter

[Paulus]

Because Ryan was directionless.

[QCity]

24 minutes ago, Peter said:

 

Rex also embraced Buffalo and the Buffalo Bills.  I liked that.  I also liked that he knew who Walt Patulski was and could reference him while he was having fun when he jumped in on a media conference call with the Patriots or knew who the hell Cookie Gilchrist was and could naturally recite - Lookie lookie here comes Cookie - without any prompting.

 

 

You forgot "I want to live where it snows the most." I bet that melted a lot of hearts around here. Wow guys, he's one of us. 

[Peter]

1 minute ago, QCity said:

 

You forgot "I want to live where it snows the most." I bet that melted a lot of hearts around here. Wow guys, he's one of us. 

 

I enjoyed that and the other Buffalo stuff that Rex knew and embraced 1000% more than I "enjoy" hearing McCoach utter his stolen "process" catch phrase. 

[Augie]

10 hours ago, Skins Malone said:

Dick Jauron had charisma?  That I dont recall.

 

I believe he had it surgically removed after a terrible snowblower accident as a child. 

 

 

 

 

I could be wrong about that....

[Mango]

My bigger issue is firing a GM after not letting him pick his own head coach. 

[Boca BIlls]

14 hours ago, RosenNOTchosen1 said:

If my memory serves me correct this season is much worse than a couple years ago under Rex. Under Rex the team was very competitive and was almost in every single game that is played. Why did Ryan only get 2 years but with McDermott it's an automatic that he's coming back?

 

?

 

 

Rex stopped trying to be a coach... we took all the dead money this year and will tank. A top pick, 10 picks, and a ***** ton of cap space is the only chance this HC/GM wilk get.

Edited November 5, 2018 by Boca BIlls

[Dadonkadonk]

Because Rex destroyed a top 10 defense. 

McD destroyed a top 10 offense and top rushing offense in the league.

He needs to go

 

[mjt328]

Completely different situations.

 

When Rex Ryan came to the team, we had one of the league's best defenses.  His GM then went on an offensive spending spree - adding LeSean McCoy, Percy Harvin, Charles Clay, etc.  The Bills were making every attempt to win NOW.  The offense was probably good enough to at least make the playoffs as a wild card, but Ryan's schematic changes on defense dragged everything to the ground.  I think if Ryan's defense had shown improvement in his second year, the Pegulas probably would have kept him.  But when a coaches' specialty is the worst part on the team, it really makes you wonder what he brings to the table.

 

In his first year as coach, Sean McDermott was able to do more (better record and playoff berth) with less talent.  And since the day he walked in the door, we've been in a piece-by-piece tear down and rebuild.  As said a thousand times... this regime did not believe long-term success could be achieved by building on the foundation Whaley left.  They felt we needed to blow EVERYTHING up and start over.  You may disagree with Beane/McDermott that this technique was necessary.  But nevertheless, that's what they did.  And it would be premature to judge whether this plan was successful, long before they actually finish rebuilding.

 

[Wsam4031]

I thought the thread name was a joke until I got in here and now I'm leaving fast!

[Peter]

Just now, Wsam4031 said:

I thought the thread name was a joke until I got in here and now I'm leaving fast!

 

Cheers.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

15 hours ago, OJ Tom said:

Cuz he sucked. 

 

Don't waste our time with Wrex Wyan nonsense.

 

 

 

 

...shoulda got 25 to life for perpetrating a fraud and impersonating a HC......thank you Mr. Brandon........his only claim to fame was affiliation with Ravens SB club and the same last name as Blowhard Buddy......he of the famed Bears 46 and nothing thereafter....failed HC just like his kid................

Edited November 5, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[CircleTheWagons99]

3 hours ago, row_33 said:

 

Browns had a man there already

 

Huh? 

[Tyrion]

14 hours ago, Peter said:

 

The following is not a popular opinion on this board:

 

As much as I love the Pegulas, it was a huge mistake firing Rex.  There is no way a coach should be fired in less than two years --- especially a coach who had been the most successful coach for the Buffalo Bills for the past nearly two decades and who was being undermined behind the scenes with leaks etc.  Rex should have been allowed to at least continue for the term of his contract.

 

To put things in perspective, the point differential was much worse last year than the year before and the relative offensive and defensive rankings were worse last year than the year before.  

 

As much as Rex got grief for having 11 men on the field (when, as it turns out, a DB got hurt and a defensive back coach presumably did not send a replacement in the game), Rex never had 15 freaking guys on the field as McCoach did last year against the Pats.  I do not think that I ever have seen any other team or coach have 15 guys on the field at the same time.  

 

Rex also had personality whereas the current guy is McMilktoast and cannot help repeating his stolen mantra the "process."  McCoach is Dick Jauron without the charisma.*  Between  his personality and what he has done with the team, he has sucked the life out of the team (and my view of the team under him).

 

I would take Rex over the current guy and thought it was unfair to undermine and then fire Rex in less than two years. As I state above, Rex should have been allowed to at least coach the team through the term of his contract.

 

As much as I am not particularly impressed with McCoach, I also think that it would be unfair to fire him in less than two years.

 

* For the younger readers, Dick Jauron did not have any charisma . . . and neither does McCoach.  This was a joke.

 

You should never post your thoughts on this football team again. Stick to what you know. Accounting, maybe. Selling lawn chairs. Lawyering, even. 

 

Just not football. 

[Jauronimo]

15 hours ago, RosenNOTchosen1 said:

If my memory serves me correct this season is much worse than a couple years ago under Rex. Under Rex the team was very competitive and was almost in every single game that is played. Why did Ryan only get 2 years but with McDermott it's an automatic that he's coming back?

 

?

 

 

Because the team was undisciplined and shockingly unprepared in big games and situations.  The defense went to hell under Rex and he was supposed to be a defensive guru. 

[Peter]

3 minutes ago, Tyrion said:

 

You should never post your thoughts on this football team again. Stick to what you know. Accounting, maybe. Selling lawn chairs. Lawyering, even. 

 

Just not football. 

 

Boo hoo.

 

Some might say that I should report you for the personal attack but I really do not care what you think.

 

God bless.

14 minutes ago, mjt328 said:

Completely different situations.

 

When Rex Ryan came to the team, we had one of the league's best defenses.  His GM then went on an offensive spending spree - adding LeSean McCoy, Percy Harvin, Charles Clay, etc.  The Bills were making every attempt to win NOW.  The offense was probably good enough to at least make the playoffs as a wild card, but Ryan's schematic changes on defense dragged everything to the ground.  I think if Ryan's defense had shown improvement in his second year, the Pegulas probably would have kept him.  But when a coaches' specialty is the worst part on the team, it really makes you wonder what he brings to the table.

 

In his first year as coach, Sean McDermott was able to do more (better record and playoff berth) with less talent.  And since the day he walked in the door, we've been in a piece-by-piece tear down and rebuild.  As said a thousand times... this regime did not believe long-term success could be achieved by building on the foundation Whaley left.  They felt we needed to blow EVERYTHING up and start over.  You may disagree with Beane/McDermott that this technique was necessary.  But nevertheless, that's what they did.  And it would be premature to judge whether this plan was successful, long before they actually finish rebuilding.

 

 

For some reason, you forgot the bit about the Bills having among the most games lost due to injury in 2015 and 2016 or Mario going on strike or Gilmore refusing to tackle. 

 

You also forgot to mention the time when the Bills had 15 men on the field at the same time. Oh, no, that was under McCoach.

 

Oh well.

 

2015 Adusted Games Lost Due to Injury

 

2016 Adusted Games Lost Due to Injury

[QCity]

1 hour ago, Peter said:

 

I enjoyed that and the other Buffalo stuff that Rex knew and embraced 

 

He didn't embrace Buffalo, he embraced Terry's paycheck. As soon as he was fired the stickers came off the truck. He doesn't care about Cookie or Putulski, and he's not going to be stopping into town to grab wings and enjoy the culture. In fact, he'll likely never set foot near WNY again unless forced -- con artists don't return to the scene of the crime.

[Peter]

11 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Because the team was undisciplined and shockingly unprepared in big games and situations.  The defense went to hell under Rex and he was supposed to be a defensive guru. 

 

Like that time when the Bills had 15 men on the field or set the franchise record for most penalty yards. . . .

 

Oh no, I forgot again, those were both under Mr. McOrganized Sean McDermott.

[Tyrion]

8 minutes ago, Peter said:

 

Boo hoo.

 

Some might say that I should report you for the personal attack but I really do not care what you think.

 

 

 

Please do. You'd stop me from having to read asinine, ridiculous, insane threads like this one. 

[row_33]

7 hours of defending Rex Ryan's years in Buffalo should be enough, right?

 

[Alphadawg7]

15 hours ago, RosenNOTchosen1 said:

If my memory serves me correct this season is much worse than a couple years ago under Rex. Under Rex the team was very competitive and was almost in every single game that is played. Why did Ryan only get 2 years but with McDermott it's an automatic that he's coming back?

 

?

 

 

 

Because Rex took over a team that was SUPPOSED to compete.  McD took a team that was NOT supposed to compete and was SUPPOSED to suck to the playoffs and snapped a 17 year drought.  This year he is saddled with a hurt rookie QB and subpar personnel on the offense in what is a rebuilding year.  Why any of you cant see this is beyond me.  Its not even remotely comparable.  

[LSHMEAB]

1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

I believe he had it surgically removed after a terrible snowblower accident as a child. 

 

 

 

 

I could be wrong about that....

No, you're absolutely correct.

 

Dick was the life of the party before that fateful day.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

7 hours ago, Peter said:

...never seem to mention that McCoach had 15 guys on the field against the Pats last year.

That was a calculated risk.  The coach in that situation is banking on with so many men, the officials will just think they're seeing double.

[Peter]

7 minutes ago, Tyrion said:

 

Please do. You'd stop me from having to read asinine, ridiculous, insane threads like this one. 

 

God bless. 

[Tyrion]

1 minute ago, Peter said:

 

God bless. 

 

There is no god

[Peter]

12 minutes ago, QCity said:

 

He didn't embrace Buffalo, he embraced Terry's paycheck. As soon as he was fired the stickers came off the truck. He doesn't care about Cookie or Putulski, and he's not going to be stopping into town to grab wings and enjoy the culture. In fact, he'll likely never set foot near WNY again unless forced -- con artists don't return to the scene of the crime.

 

Does it surprise you that someone might be a bit bitter after being fired and undermined prior to that.  There is no doubt that he was all in with the Bills and Buffalo.  There is also no doubt that he was pissed off that he was fired . . . as any of us would be.

Just now, Tyrion said:

 

There is no god

 

Your existence on this board does give one pause.

[boater]

1 hour ago, Peter said:

God forbid that anyone should have a freaking personality.

 

The Clemson helmet was because his son went to Clemson and he had some fun with it.

 

The dog biscuit thing was for charity and the Bills supported it.

 

Rex is a sports fan as are most of us on this board.  He went to a world series game in Cleveland that did not interfere with his responsibilities (and, as I recall, left early to get back to Buffalo).  Oh my God!?!  The horror.  He also went to Sabres games . . . before they actually were good.  God forbid!

 

The Pegulas and the Bills embraced the fact that he had a personality and even had a web show prior to the second season.

 

Rex also embraced Buffalo and the Buffalo Bills.  I liked that.  I also liked that he knew who Walt Patulski was and could reference him while he was having fun when he jumped in on a media conference call with the Patriots or knew who the hell Cookie Gilchrist was and could naturally recite - Lookie lookie here comes Cookie - without any prompting.

 

Say what you will, the guy was all in on the Bills and Buffalo. We are now stuck with an unwatchable team that McCoach has sucked the life out of.  If you have any doubt, take a look at the empty seats in the stands in December and the $7 tickets now.

 

P.S.  People also claimed that he disrespected Billy B and Brady. He had a funny way of doing that.  Rex actually said that they probably were both the best in the history of the game.

Nice post. I agree somewhat.

 

I think Rex's positives were also his undoings. He was a happy go lucky blustering front man, which worked well in the PR department. No matter how much drano I use, I can't rid the picture of Rex and Bro riding the tandem bike around Delaware Park.

 

Unfortunately, that living life on a a lark bled over to Rex's bread and butter which was running a football team. He ran to the team too casually and undisciplined, with no strategic plan whatsoever. His crass off field showmanship was no way to run an NFL team.

[Peter]

3 minutes ago, boater said:

Nice post. I agree somewhat.

 

I think Rex's positives were also his undoings. He was a happy go lucky blustering front man, which worked well in the PR department. No matter how much drano I use, I can't rid the picture of Rex and Bro riding the tandem bike around Delaware Park.

 

Unfortunately, that living life on a a lark bled over to Rex's bread and butter which was running a football team. He ran to the team too casually and undisciplined, with no strategic plan whatsoever. His crass off field showmanship was no way to run an NFL team.

 

Thanks.  I appreciate it.  We can disagree but do so with respect.  Thanks again.

Edited November 5, 2018 by Peter

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

3 hours ago, CircleTheWagons99 said:

In his defense, pun intended, he said himself the Bills job will be his last.  

But you'll also note that teams aren't exactly kicking his door down, trying to get him to change his mind.

[Peter]

1 minute ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

But you'll also note that teams aren't exactly kicking his door down, trying to get him to change his mind.

 

Rex has got among the best gigs going.  He is getting paid to do what we do here for free.

 

P.S. Rex also did not abandon the Bills as that prick Marrone did.

 

P.P.S. I highly doubt that McCoach is going to get another opportunity to be a head football coach for an NFL team if and when the Pegulas ever decide to move on.

[Jauronimo]

15 minutes ago, Tyrion said:

 

Please do. You'd stop me from having to read asinine, ridiculous, insane threads like this one. 

You're awfully combative for an unabashed, West coast, world traveling, liberal academic.  What happened to good vibes?

20 minutes ago, Peter said:

 

Like that time when the Bills had 15 men on the field or set the franchise record for most penalty yards. . . .

 

Oh no, I forgot again, those were both under Mr. McOrganized Sean McDermott.

You asked why Rex got fired and I answered.  I didn't say McD was any better.

[Tyrion]

1 minute ago, Jauronimo said:

You're awfully combative for an unabashed, West coast, world traveling, liberal academic.  What happened to good vibes?

 

well, I'm originally from NJ. 

[Peter]

2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

You're awfully combative for an unabashed, West coast, world traveling, liberal academic.  What happened to good vibes?

You asked why Rex got fired and I answered.  I didn't say McD was any better.

 

It is ok.  No worries. You are good guy. We just disagree on some things.

[QCity]

28 minutes ago, Peter said:

 

  There is no doubt that he was all in with the Bills and Buffalo. 

 

You give Rex $27.5M GTD and he will be "all in" (whatever that actually means) with any team, in any city, in any sport. You've been had.

[GunnerBill]

2 hours ago, Peter said:

God forbid that anyone should have a freaking personality.

 

The Clemson helmet was because his son went to Clemson and he had some fun with it.

 

The dog biscuit thing was for charity and the Bills supported it.

 

Rex is a sports fan as are most of us on this board.  He went to a world series game in Cleveland that did not interfere with his responsibilities (and, as I recall, left early to get back to Buffalo).  Oh my God!?!  The horror.  He also went to Sabres games . . . before they actually were good.  God forbid!

 

The Pegulas and the Bills embraced the fact that he had a personality and even had a web show prior to the second season.

 

Rex also embraced Buffalo and the Buffalo Bills.  I liked that.  I also liked that he knew who Walt Patulski was and could reference him while he was having fun when he jumped in on a media conference call with the Patriots or knew who the hell Cookie Gilchrist was and could naturally recite - Lookie lookie here comes Cookie - without any prompting.

 

Say what you will, the guy was all in on the Bills and Buffalo. We are now stuck with an unwatchable team that McCoach has sucked the life out of.  If you have any doubt, take a look at the empty seats in the stands in December and the $7 tickets now.

 

P.S.  People also claimed that he disrespected Billy B and Brady. He had a funny way of doing that.  Rex actually said that they probably were both the best in the history of the game.

 

Rex was a sports fan and is a sports fan. That comes across. Rob is doing tv over here in the UK this season and he is the same. That is great. 

 

I don't necessarily want fans running teams. I want rational people who suck emotion out. Even if Sean McDermott isn't the guy that would be the type I would look for again.