yrly Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 We’ve done no better at the QB position. I kind of wonder what he’d have been like behind a good line with a few good receivers. He doesn’t look bad in Tampa with no real running game and a pretty bad line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 7-9 misery for life 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, yrly said: We’ve done no better at the QB position. I kind of wonder what he’d have been like behind a good line with a few good receivers. He doesn’t look bad in Tampa with no real running game and a pretty bad line. There is a certain truth to this concept. But no one sees Tampa Bay as a championship threat with Fitz at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 lol that's funny. People are calling our rookie QB a bust after 5 starts, and you think these short attention-spanners were gonna give Fitz the better part of a decade? Yeah, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, yrly said: We’ve done no better at the QB position. I kind of wonder what he’d have been like behind a good line with a few good receivers. He doesn’t look bad in Tampa with no real running game and a pretty bad line. Seriously? Come on man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I always liked Fitzy as a person. I loved having him in Buffalo. But he was maddeningly inconsistent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugashane69 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, yrly said: We’ve done no better at the QB position. I kind of wonder what he’d have been like behind a good line with a few good receivers. He doesn’t look bad in Tampa with no real running game and a pretty bad line. What you forget is fitz has guys to throw to that will catch the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrly Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 Keep in mind I’m not discounting Allen at the moment. I’m talking about all these interims. By this point in his career I’d have expected Fitz to be mentoring Allen but prepared to fill in in the case of injury like we have now. With a few good receivers he’s putting up 3-4tds behind a pretty lousy line. Nothing would ever have prevented the Bills from getting some receivers and building a line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 The guys on WGR are the worst. Allen was a top ten pick in most mock drafts and some had him going #1. I don't know if he is going to be good or not, but the revisionist history going on is beyond ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Fitz was awesome. I enjoyed him on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 53 minutes ago, joesixpack said: lol that's funny. People are calling our rookie QB a bust after 5 starts, and you think these short attention-spanners were gonna give Fitz the better part of a decade? Yeah, no. absolutely right. there were plenty of people lining up with torches and pitchforks towards the end of fitz's bills career. the negative nicknames, the contract, the mediocrity, the lack of arm strength, the wedding ring, harvard...there were plenty of fans and media that were ready to riot. and then there was buddy nix and him basically saying that they needed to move on at all costs. his time was at an end here. but i will always love me some Fitz! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Just now, Dr.Sack said: Fitz was awesome. I enjoyed him on the team. If the Bills had Bucs offense to go along with this D We be good. If we had Bucs D along with Bill's offense 0-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 You could say the same thing about the NY Jets and I suspect that after throwing 4 INT's today a lot of Jets fans are calling Darnold a bust and lamenting why they ever let Fitz go! Hell they probably also regret not taking Mahomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChattanoogaBills Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 hour ago, yrly said: Keep in mind I’m not discounting Allen at the moment. I’m talking about all these interims. By this point in his career I’d have expected Fitz to be mentoring Allen but prepared to fill in in the case of injury like we have now. With a few good receivers he’s putting up 3-4tds behind a pretty lousy line. Nothing would ever have prevented the Bills from getting some receivers and building a line. Yeah but fitz isnt much better than Peterman at this point.... Fitz just makes more tackles after throwing interceptions so he doesnt have as many pick 6's as peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!! At least your whining has a sense of humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Fitsy through a beautiful pick in the first quarter today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Fitz is Fitz. He has heart. He likes to air it out. He can be exciting and fun to watch. But at the end of the day, he never wins when it counts. I don’t think he’s ever been to the playoffs. And you are forgetting the spirit crushing interceptions. Sure, he’s better than the dumpster fire we have right now. But he isn’t the answer, and he proved that when he was in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 2 hours ago, yrly said: We’ve done no better at the QB position. I kind of wonder what he’d have been like behind a good line with a few good receivers. He doesn’t look bad in Tampa with no real running game and a pretty bad line. Fitz is a solid backup...Nothing more, nothing less imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) I liked Fitz and I liked Tyrod. Neither of them was the answer. Those of you that thought, “it can’t be worse” at the time are learning a hard lesson now. Franchise QB > Good QB > decent QB > functioning QB > Bills QB Fitz and Tyrod fit in that decent category. Allen may be good but the quality of QB play in Buffalo this year ranks with the worst in league history. Edited November 5, 2018 by Kirby Jackson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 19 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I liked Fitz and I liked Tyrod. Neither of them was the answer. Those of you that thought, “it can’t be worse” at the time are learning a hard lesson now. Franchise QB > Good QB > decent QB > functioning QB > Bills QB Fitz and Tyrod fit in that decent category. Allen may be good but the quality of QB play in Buffalo this year ranks with the worst in league history. Amen and we would have saved resources on Fitz until we could land a good QB. Face it everyone, we can tdraft QB's in Buffalo. Fitz would have saved us Orton, Manuel, Tuel, Brohm, Hobert, Kolb, Taylor, etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Real McCoy said: 7-9 misery for life You mean just like it's been without him, with the exception of a couple 9-7s and, now, the thrill of a 2-14 or 3-13 just to mix things up a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PittsforDave Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Didn’t we sign Fitz to a huge contract only for him to play like *****? Why would we want him? He was terrible. The problem for the Bills is motivation. The players don’t respect the team therefore mails it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrly Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 Fitz may not be the answer, neither was Tyrod but with Allen hurt either is arguably better than what we are watching now. If Fitz plays 2/3 of the next two seasons or continues to throw 4tds a game he’s going to be very close to Jim Kelly’s numbers by the time he hangs them up. I think the the point is it’s hard to put much worse on the field at this point. Hopefully Allen is healed up soon because if we’re gonna lose he’s wasting practice time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I like rooting for Fitz from afar. The inevitable disappointment and heartbreak doesn’t cut as deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 minute ago, yrly said: Fitz may not be the answer, neither was Tyrod but with Allen hurt either is arguably better than what we are watching now. If Fitz plays 2/3 of the next two seasons or continues to throw 4tds a game he’s going to be very close to Jim Kelly’s numbers by the time he hangs them up. I think the the point is it’s hard to put much worse on the field at this point. Hopefully Allen is healed up soon because if we’re gonna lose he’s wasting practice time. I don’t think it is “arguably.” I think it is “definitely.” Now it it may not be best for the long-term but the people that always believe that the grass is greener are learning a hard lesson this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrly Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 minute ago, PittsforDave said: Didn’t we sign Fitz to a huge contract only for him to play like *****? Why would we want him? He was terrible. The problem for the Bills is motivation. The players don’t respect the team therefore mails it in. We had lousy receiving corps back then. You’d have had to get receivers to work with and we’d have saved a lot of draft busts, probably a lot of money. Instead we are left with this mess. Fitz is proven as moderately serviceable with a good receiving corps even behind a marginal line. However he’s had several 400 yard games this year and we’ve had what a bunch of ints from peterman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needle Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I never understood why teams run okay QBs out of town before finding a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PittsforDave Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, yrly said: We had lousy receiving corps back then. You’d have had to get receivers to work with and we’d have saved a lot of draft busts, probably a lot of money. Instead we are left with this mess. Fitz is proven as moderately serviceable with a good receiving corps even behind a marginal line. However he’s had several 400 yard games this year and we’ve had what a bunch of ints from peterman? How were are receivers the year before? When he played better before we threw him a ton of cash only for him to lay down. Fitz quit on the team, it wasn’t about talent of the WRs. Edited November 5, 2018 by PittsforDave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Fitz may throw INTs, but he actually throws TDs too....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrly Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, PittsforDave said: How were are receivers the year before? When he played better before we threw him a ton of cash only for him to lay down. Fitz quit on the team, it wasn’t about talent of the WRs. I forget who we had back then, was it Lee Evans? Anyway I looked it up at one point and he missed half of Fotz’s last season here due to injury 2 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Fitz may throw INTs, but he actually throws TDs too....... Career stats 186 TDS 141 INTs 28541 yard in 138 games and he only started 123 of them. I really wouldn’t consider that that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Real McCoy said: 7-9 misery for life Exactly. Story of the Drought, redux. Never quite as bad as say, the Browns, but never breaking into the upper crust of perennial playoff contenders either--Fitzy = a run of great 4-5 games that have you wondering what Sully could ever find negative to write about, only to wind up looking like the fish out of water Harvard athlete that he is, gasping for air just short of the playoff finish line. At least the Bills swung for the fences with JA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Yeah signing guys that might make your team average is has worked great over the last 20 years...I'll take my chances with a horrid season in the Hope's we can obtain some elite talent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 15 hours ago, yrly said: We’ve done no better at the QB position. I kind of wonder what he’d have been like behind a good line with a few good receivers. He doesn’t look bad in Tampa with no real running game and a pretty bad line. Someone in the media once wrote an article characterizing Fitzpatrick as a QB "multiple teams have moved on from, then failed to do enough to replace". Some truth to that. Leaving aside his drafting team (long shot late round where Bulger was the man) and Cinncinnati (backup to Palmer), we have Buffalo 2012 Fitzpatrick 2013 Manuel, Tuel, and Lewis Tennessee 2013 Locker, Fitzpatrick 2014 Locker, Whitehurst, Mettenburger Houston 2014 Fitzpatrick, Keenum, Mallet 2015 Hoyer, Mallet, Yates, Weedon NY Jets 2016 Fitzpatrick, Geno Smith, Bryce Petty 2017 Josh McCown, Bryce Petty The only place where one can make the argument letting Fitz go was the right move would be NYJ, where Fitz had a miserable completion percentage and TD/INT ratio and McCown played quite decently the following year. 12 hours ago, PittsforDave said: How were are receivers the year before? When he played better before we threw him a ton of cash only for him to lay down. Fitz quit on the team, it wasn’t about talent of the WRs. The team released him If you mean his play the previous season, I dunno - I think Fitz would be a field day for a sports psychologist, fear of success or something. I don't think he intentionally played poorly or quit, any more than he did for the 2016 Jets after a great 2015 season, or in TB Games 4, 8, and 9 vs 1,2, and 3. Au contraire arguably his problem is pushing too hard to make things happen combined with film of his tendencies in a specific offense that let the DBs pick him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 15 hours ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: The guys on WGR are the worst. Allen was a top ten pick in most mock drafts and some had him going #1. I don't know if he is going to be good or not, but the revisionist history going on is beyond ridiculous. I've written that a few times here too. Feels often like speaking to a wall so thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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