TwistofFate Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 There is absolutely no reason to keep McCoy on this team. I love McCoy, but it's a disservice to him and the organization to keep him here. He was brought in here to help us compete on a championship level. We are the furthest thing from that. Get any value you can, and let him ride into the sunset of his career with a winning team, that's one piece away from heading to the big dance. Holding on to him this long was another mistake by this regime. Just add it up with the rest of the terrible decisions they've made. #FreeMcCoy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I saw a rumor that GB has called the Bills about him twice Maybe to offer each of their 1st round picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: It’s sad because it’s true. You win by running and stopping the run!!! You win by scoring points and stopping the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 51 minutes ago, TwistofFate said: You win by scoring points and stopping the run. No. You win by scoring up front with a relentless passing attack. Let teams run on you all they want. Doesn't mater. 2-5 in rushing are 49ers, Cowboys, Panthers Browns. Patriots, Packers and chiefs aren't in the top 20 against the run. Rams are 12th. No one cares about the run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 7 hours ago, no name said: trade your best player? seems like a present bills move. smh Well for a 30 year old running back on a team destined for 3-13 yeah it’s a good move to deal him if the price is right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Feel sorry for the vets on this team, but trading McCoy is the right move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: No. You win by scoring up front with a relentless passing attack. Let teams run on you all they want. Doesn't mater. 2-5 in rushing are 49ers, Cowboys, Panthers Browns. Patriots, Packers and chiefs aren't in the top 20 against the run. Rams are 12th. No one cares about the run. Lol, no one cares about stopping the run?? I can assure you they do. If they run all over you they control the clock, control the tempo, tire out the defense, and keep your pass happy offense on the sideline. It's called grinding out a win. It's what teams who suck attempt to do to keep the game close enough to win by a lucky turnover. It's been the Bills motto for 20 years. Stop the run and you end up with a team like us, averaging 12pts a game, and practically a guaranteed win when you play them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 minute ago, TwistofFate said: Lol, no one cares about stopping the run?? I can assure you they do. If they run all over you they control the clock, control the tempo, tire out the defense, and keep your pass happy offense on the sideline. It's called grinding out a win. It's what teams who suck attempt to do to keep the game close enough to win by a lucky turnover. It's been the Bills motto for 20 years. Stop the run and you end up with a team like us, averaging 12pts a game, and practically a guaranteed win when you play them. Against the Bills, teams only start running the ball in the second half---so they can get to the bus with the "W" ASAP. The best teams right now don't have "stopping the run" high on their priority list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 23 minutes ago, H2o said: I hope it's true. Shady deserves to end his career with a contender. Even better if he's with his home squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 hour ago, H2o said: well then...…...it better turn into a 3rd before they trade him or otherwise no trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, cba fan said: well then...…...it better turn into a 3rd before they trade him or otherwise no trade. Source misspelled LeSean. Is it trustworthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 10 hours ago, Kevin1778 said: A sixth rounder is fine. Get rid of his salary. who cares about his salary? Why is this a concern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, simpleman said: Exactly why would you trade one of your best players for a mid to late round pick? The odds of drafting a starter are less than 50/50 even in the best possible scenario. And given the historic incompetence of our current front office on evaluating offensive talent, it is downright suicide to have to fill the hole you would create. Historic Success Chart The numbers show us the following outline for finding consistent starters: 1st Round - OL (83%) LB (70%) TE (67%) DB (64%) QB (63%) WR (58%) RB (58%) DL (58%) 2nd Round - OL (70%) LB (55%) TE (50%) WR (49%) DB (46%) QB (27%) DL (26%) RB (25%) 3rd Round - OL (40%) TE (39%) LB (34%) DL (27%) WR (25%) DB (24%) QB (17%) RB (16%) 4th Round - DL (37%) TE (33%) OL (29%) LB (16%) WR(12%) DB (11%) RB (11%) QB (8%) 5th Round - TE (32%) DB (17%) WR (16%) OL (16%) DL (13%) RB (9%) LB (4%) QB (0%) 6th Round - TE (26%) OL (16%) DL (13%) WR (9%) DB (8%) RB (6%) LB (5%) QB (0%) 7th Round - DB (11%) OL (9%) QB (6%) WR (5%) DL (3%) LB (2%) RB (0%) TE (0%) https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/2/20/8072877/what-the-statistics-tell-us-about-the-draft-by-round As I remember, Tom Brady was a 6th rd pick in the 2000 NFL draft. How can there then be 0% chance of drafting a "consistent starter" in the 6th rd?? By only going back to the last decade. Kinda selective though isn't it? Edited October 25, 2018 by DefenseWins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 14 hours ago, DCOrange said: Would be nice to get at least a third but that's speculation at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 4 hours ago, DefenseWins said: As I remember, Tom Brady was a 6th rd pick in the 2000 NFL draft. How can there then be 0% chance of drafting a "consistent starter" in the 6th rd?? By only going back to the last decade. Kinda selective though isn't it? 10 years and 32 (plus comp) picks in each round is quite the sample size. While 1” is kind of arbitrary I would say designing your sample around shoehorning in an extreme outlier is even more “selective” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Every time Shady has been off the field this season Ivory & Murphy have stepped up & I believe their combined out put while on the field has been better than Shady's when he has been healthy & in the game . I think they could trade him & not miss out on much the rest of this year !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 14 hours ago, simpleman said: Exactly why would you trade one of your best players for a mid to late round pick? The odds of drafting a starter are less than 50/50 even in the best possible scenario. And given the historic incompetence of our current front office on evaluating offensive talent, it is downright suicide to have to fill the hole you would create. Historic Success Chart The numbers show us the following outline for finding consistent starters: 1st Round - OL (83%) LB (70%) TE (67%) DB (64%) QB (63%) WR (58%) RB (58%) DL (58%) 2nd Round - OL (70%) LB (55%) TE (50%) WR (49%) DB (46%) QB (27%) DL (26%) RB (25%) 3rd Round - OL (40%) TE (39%) LB (34%) DL (27%) WR (25%) DB (24%) QB (17%) RB (16%) 4th Round - DL (37%) TE (33%) OL (29%) LB (16%) WR(12%) DB (11%) RB (11%) QB (8%) 5th Round - TE (32%) DB (17%) WR (16%) OL (16%) DL (13%) RB (9%) LB (4%) QB (0%) 6th Round - TE (26%) OL (16%) DL (13%) WR (9%) DB (8%) RB (6%) LB (5%) QB (0%) 7th Round - DB (11%) OL (9%) QB (6%) WR (5%) DL (3%) LB (2%) RB (0%) TE (0%) https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/2/20/8072877/what-the-statistics-tell-us-about-the-draft-by-round While "success" is certainly subjective, those are extremely interesting numbers. It goes a long way (imo) to explaining the losing seasons we have suffered. Thanks very much for this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 RB Index, Week 8: Trade him! Four landing spots for Bills' McCoy http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000977777/article/rb-index-week-8-trade-him-four-landing-spots-for-bills-mccoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRightRevenge Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 15 hours ago, simpleman said: Exactly why would you trade one of your best players for a mid to late round pick? The odds of drafting a starter are less than 50/50 even in the best possible scenario. And given the historic incompetence of our current front office on evaluating offensive talent, it is downright suicide to have to fill the hole you would create. Historic Success Chart The numbers show us the following outline for finding consistent starters: 1st Round - OL (83%) LB (70%) TE (67%) DB (64%) QB (63%) WR (58%) RB (58%) DL (58%) 2nd Round - OL (70%) LB (55%) TE (50%) WR (49%) DB (46%) QB (27%) DL (26%) RB (25%) 3rd Round - OL (40%) TE (39%) LB (34%) DL (27%) WR (25%) DB (24%) QB (17%) RB (16%) 4th Round - DL (37%) TE (33%) OL (29%) LB (16%) WR(12%) DB (11%) RB (11%) QB (8%) 5th Round - TE (32%) DB (17%) WR (16%) OL (16%) DL (13%) RB (9%) LB (4%) QB (0%) 6th Round - TE (26%) OL (16%) DL (13%) WR (9%) DB (8%) RB (6%) LB (5%) QB (0%) 7th Round - DB (11%) OL (9%) QB (6%) WR (5%) DL (3%) LB (2%) RB (0%) TE (0%) https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/2/20/8072877/what-the-statistics-tell-us-about-the-draft-by-round If you truly .. I won't say "trust" the process ... but "believe" there is a process.. then you're looking beyond this year and likely next .. that means Shady won't be part of the long term solution ... make the move .. based on draft percentages above ... looks like we have a 1 in 3 shot of getting a starting TE (round 4-6) for Shady .. bring it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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