harv shitz Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 I am starting to seriously question the Pegulas. They have take two professional sports teams, that were at least close to average, and made them both the worst team in their respective leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, McBean said: Nobody is getting fired and this is year 1 of a rebuild. Everybody needs to except it and realIze Rome wasn’t built in 1 day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 2018 - $50 mil in Dead Money = Tanking 2019 - $100 mil in cap space = fixes a lot of problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) Tyrod was a mediocre quarterback, but mediocre is better than bad or off the charts terrible. Yes, Allen was drafted, but you always need a good backup option with a rookie. Buffalo could have kept Taylor but decided to trade him out of nowhere. They at least signed McCarron which would have been a credible replacement, but traded him. They instead went into the season with a rookie who everyone universally agreed needed to be brought in slowly and a second year 5th round draft picks who's primary experience was the 5 INT debacle. They are lucky to even be 2-5 and I would be surprised to see more than 4 wins. Taylor and McCarron aren't world beaters, but I am certain with them that Buffalo wins at least the Houston game and maybe today's too. Beane and McDermott had a very successful year one, but made some God awful off season decisions. I would like to see at least this year and next year before a regime change is done, but something has to be done to change how decisions are made when acquiring players and choosing who to keep. Edited October 22, 2018 by dgrochester55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 At this point I wouldn’t even care if we traded for Tyrod. This is just so hard to watch. At least the nostalgia might be fun for a few weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin1778 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Tyrod sucks. He would do nothing with this Offensive Line. Without Incognito and Wood he would be even worse than he was last year in his stellar 50 yard passing performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Ty provided stability. I miss stability....but JA will be fine. Let him learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 If we had tyrod, would our offense be better? Probably. But would he alone taken this offense and won the games we lost? Texans maybe, other than that no. With this offense tyrod isn't taking us to the playoffs, I think few QBs could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Clause Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, nedboy7 said: I dont think people around here like that type of logic. Get on board and enjoy loosing and pretend draft position is more important than winning. Your kind of logic is the kind that keeps you between 7-9 & 9-7 quite a lofty goal.... Edited October 22, 2018 by Fred Clause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Right now Tyrod looks like a all pro compared to what we have seen this year & hopefully this coaching staff can learn from their mistakes & take it forward ! The handling of the entire QB thing from Tyrod to AJ to Petermen To Allen to Anderson has been a cluster F !! Sometimes jumping to quick can be a terrible thing & in this case it has been !! But there's always next year !! I think McBean are on the right track but just as you have bumps in the road for rookie players you have some for rookie coaches as well hopefully it will get better !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 2 hours ago, nedboy7 said: But which one sucks more. That's is the question. 9-7 or the clown show. The clown show, Taylor will never lead a team to a super bowl so anything new is better even if it sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 19 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: The clown show, Taylor will never lead a team to a super bowl so anything new is better even if it sucks. Well then you must be in heaven. 30 minutes ago, Fred Clause said: Your kind of logic is the kind that keeps you between 7-9 & 9-7 quite a lofty goal.... Like I said. Enjoy your dreams come true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 7 hours ago, TigerJ said: I will agree, the offense was horrible today, but I believe it would absolutely be a mistake to blow up the team. McBeane made the decision to try and find the QB of the future and find some lynchpin pieces to the defense. That decision made it necessary to try and use bandaids to hold the rest of the offense together. Mistake? You can debate that. Maybe Buffalo should have tried to build more of the support pieces into the offense better offensive linemen and receivers, and maybe had a little more youth at RB. I don't think there is a clear answer yet. The jury is still out on Allen. I don't know if signing Derek Anderson will pan out, but I wasn't expecting an awful lot ten days after coming off the golf course. I think maybe the losing is leading to the expectation of losing. That makes it harder to overcome. It is going to continue against New England next Monday night BUT, I think McDermott knows how to coach and get his players to perform. I think Beane will address the offense in a major way in the offseason. I think Josh Allen is going to get a lot better next season. And I think Brian Daboll can be a creative offensive coordinator when he has some talent and experience to work with. Firing the coach in my thinking is a guarantee to continue nearly two decades of futility, and the biggest mistake Terry Pegula could make with this team right now. Except McD is a terrible coach. Beane is a pretty terrible GM. Daboll is definitely a terrible OC. And none of them will amount to anything. Terry and his husband Kim are terrible owners that constantly make bad business decisions in everything they do that doesn’t include oil, fracking, and making suckers out of every fan of Buffalo sports. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 hour ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: Ty provided stability. I miss stability....but JA will be fine. Let him learn. How does anyone know this? Is it because of the WR he has as his QBs coach? Is it because of how he has been lighting the league on fire up til his injury? He was supposed to be the QB that would need the most coaching/development in order to have a chance to reach his potential and be a franchise starter 51 minutes ago, Fred Clause said: Your kind of logic is the kind that keeps you between 7-9 & 9-7 quite a lofty goal.... 7-9 & 9-7 would be a huge upgrade How are those browns doing since their first win in over 2 years? You don't just magically go from drafting 1st overall to SB contender unless you already had a good team in place and the 1st overall year was because of some fluke injury that cost the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: How does anyone know this? Is it because of the WR he has as his QBs coach? Is it because of how he has been lighting the league on fire up til his injury? He was supposed to be the QB that would need the most coaching/development in order to have a chance to reach his potential and be a franchise starter His career has started worse than EJ and Trent. The last two rookies to start games for the bills at QB. So we have no idea he if he is going to be fine. Wishful thinking. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/ManuEJ00/gamelog/2013/ https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/E/EdwaTr01/gamelog/2007/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 7 hours ago, twoandfourteen said: Last year, I said that the passing offense couldn't get worse than it was under Tyrod. Boy was I wrong. I honestly didn't think it was really possible for a collection of professional coaches & players to perform as poorly on offense as they have this season. Beane & McDermott deserve to be fired at the end of this season. It was actually a good thing to have a QB not throw interceptions. They kinda hurt your team when your QB throws 2 or 3... or 5 a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 7 hours ago, twoandfourteen said: Last year, I said that the passing offense couldn't get worse than it was under Tyrod. Boy was I wrong. I honestly didn't think it was really possible for a collection of professional coaches & players to perform as poorly on offense as they have this season. Beane & McDermott deserve to be fired at the end of this season. We all knew this was going to be a rebuilding year, and it is. I do not understand the lynch mob mentality with the current state of the Bills. Yes they suck. But this is what we expected. Let 's power through this year and save our pitch forks and torches for next year if they do not show significant improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Norcalbillsfan said: If we had tyrod, would our offense be better? Probably. But would he alone taken this offense and won the games we lost? Texans maybe, other than that no. With this offense tyrod isn't taking us to the playoffs, I think few QBs could. Add Watkins, Woods, and Glenn to the offense and maybe. 1 minute ago, longtimebillsfan said: We all knew this was going to be a rebuilding year, and it is. I do not understand the lynch mob mentality with the current state of the Bills. Yes they suck. But this is what we expected. Let 's power through this year and save our pitch forks and torches for next year if they do not show significant improvement. Why did we have to suck this year? We were 9-7 last season, was it necessary to bottom out now? I understand Richie and Wood were unexpected, big losses, but every other issue is self inflicted. We didn't address our deficiencies on the O-lIne, we just made them worse by trading Glenn. We didn't do anything to improve our WR situation either. I don't understand the need to totally bottom out before trying to be a good team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Realistically with Tyrod we'd be in a better situation, Josh Allen already got hurt, nearly had to have Tommy John surgery mind you and this is our 1st pick in the draft. Some say you dump Tyrod and pickup a new guy, that's just silliness we already had a capable vet on the roster. Too bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 23 minutes ago, klos63 said: Add Watkins, Woods, and Glenn to the offense and maybe. Why did we have to suck this year? We were 9-7 last season, was it necessary to bottom out now? I understand Richie and Wood were unexpected, big losses, but every other issue is self inflicted. We didn't address our deficiencies on the O-lIne, we just made them worse by trading Glenn. We didn't do anything to improve our WR situation either. I don't understand the need to totally bottom out before trying to be a good team. The story line is that the Bills must clear the dead money so we have room to sign free agents in the off season. It was expected that we would suffer through one difficult year. The brain trust did not want to get involved with any new long term contract this year. That is why we suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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