Deranged Rhino Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: they have courses of Soviet History and Thought and Dialectical Theory going as strong as 30 years ago? i highly doubt that you are confusing "just being annoying" with being "truly Marxist" you Americans have no clue at all compared to countries where serious left and far-left politics is part of the normal discourse Marxist philosophy is the backbone of a lot of American institutions of higher learning. Where did all the communists who were blowing up buildings in NYC in the 70s go? They became community organizers. The rest became teachers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, row_33 said: Real Marxism has plummeted to about 1% of the levels it was at before 1989 I call BS, Real Marxism has never been tried yet. - every college professor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: I still think Biden has a great chance, but last night tightened the race. Everyone on that stage last night (even the weird lady on the left and Swalwell) ran circles around Biden last night. It is only going to get worse for him. You'd be wise to count him out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 26 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: I call BS, Real Marxism has never been tried yet. - every college professor. The next time we will get it right. Just need to get rid of those deplorables in Middle America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 it's not called Marxism any more, it has its useful tools in Deconstruction/Structuralism and Cultural Studies and Deviant Studies programs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Marxist philosophy is the backbone of a lot of American institutions of higher learning. Where did all the communists who were blowing up buildings in NYC in the 70s go? They became community organizers. The rest became teachers. I know one and he's a home improvement guy now still working in his latter 60's. He bucked the trend. He literally went to jail for blowing up a building. In 2012 he had giant "RON PAUL" letters on the tailgate of his pickup truck so his political views evolved - A LOT. Edited June 28, 2019 by keepthefaith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Marxism has transferred to cutting apart English texts and "so-called literature" so it's a playground for people unemployable outside a University. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 46 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: That's a terrible (and highly ironic) deflection. Communism is not a good system. Socialism is not a good system. Both are drenched in blood, and history keeps proving this time and time again. What's being pushed by the progfascists is thinly veiled communism -- pushed by people who are Marxist in their educational backgrounds. Learn your history. The number of deaths caused by communist/socialist--actually more like quasi communist/socialist--societies also pales in comparison to the deaths caused by (often directly in the name of) the major monotheistic religions that have prevailed throughout the world for the last couple millennia, with Christianity and Islam being the biggest culprits. Maybe we should all as a world revert to those polytheistic secular religions demonized (though ironically imitated) by Christianity and the other major monotheistic religions? After all, a fraction of the people died in the name of those secular religions in comparison. Learn your history. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: The number of deaths caused by communist/socialist--actually more like quasi communist/socialist--societies also pales in comparison to the deaths caused by (often directly in the name of) the major monotheistic religions that have prevailed throughout the world for the last couple millennia, with Christianity and Islam being the biggest culprits. Maybe we should all as a world revert to those polytheistic secular religions demonized (though ironically imitated) by Christianity and the other major monotheistic religions? After all, a fraction of the people died in the name of those secular religions in comparison. Learn your history. the 20th century and its atheistic states murdered more people than every other century combined but you are just a jackass saying stupid things with each post you make 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, row_33 said: the 20th century and its atheistic states murdered more people than every other century combined but you are just a jackass saying stupid things with each post you make The Earth's population grew exponentially after the start of the Industrial Revolution roughly 170 years ago. Also, the poster has no idea as to the number of deaths outside of Europe, Western Asia, and North Africa in terms of people killed in the name of religion. Anyhow since numbers were most likely never tabulated versus guessed at for the Inquisition I would bet that Mao and Stalin has the Vatican and the Spaniards beat. Like you said a jackass just regurgitating what he was told in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: The Earth's population grew exponentially after the start of the Industrial Revolution roughly 170 years ago. Also, the poster has no idea as to the number of deaths outside of Europe, Western Asia, and North Africa in terms of people killed in the name of religion. Anyhow since numbers were most likely never tabulated versus guessed at for the Inquisition I would bet that Mao and Stalin has the Vatican and the Spaniards beat. Like you said a jackass just regurgitating what he was told in college. he went to college, or actually went to class and listened for 30 seconds and retained it? doubtful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 minute ago, row_33 said: he went to college, or actually went to class and listened for 30 seconds and retained it? doubtful Nobody said that he graduated. He was one of the guys you never saw again after fall semester of your freshman year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 36 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: The number of deaths caused by communist/socialist--actually more like quasi communist/socialist--societies also pales in comparison to the deaths caused by (often directly in the name of) the major monotheistic religions that have prevailed throughout the world for the last couple millennia, with Christianity and Islam being the biggest culprits. Again, this is a weak (and marxist) dodge. No one is talking about religion. No one votes for a national religion. What you're advocating is something we can vote for as a society. It's a bad deflection. Be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: The number of deaths caused by communist/socialist--actually more like quasi communist/socialist--societies also pales in comparison to the deaths caused by (often directly in the name of) the major monotheistic religions that have prevailed throughout the world for the last couple millennia, with Christianity and Islam being the biggest culprits. Maybe we should all as a world revert to those polytheistic secular religions demonized (though ironically imitated) by Christianity and the other major monotheistic religions? After all, a fraction of the people died in the name of those secular religions in comparison. Learn your history. But the world's monotheistic religions didn't do it in less than 100 years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, DC Tom said: But the world's monotheistic religions didn't do it in less than 100 years. How about we just concede that both have killed millions and millions and hopefully someday they knock it off? It's like whose worse Godzilla or Megatron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 minute ago, reddogblitz said: How about we just concede that both have killed millions and millions and hopefully someday they knock it off? It's like whose worse Godzilla or Megatron. Megatron, of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeIGiveADarn Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: Megatron, of course. ***** off. Godzilla is MUCH worse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 17 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: How about we just concede that both have killed millions and millions and hopefully someday they knock it off? It's like whose worse Godzilla or Megatron. not even remotely close takes an arrogant atheist to even dream up comparing the 20th century massacres of innocent people to religious deaths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, LikeIGiveADarn said: ***** off. Godzilla is MUCH worse... With out Godzilla, we'd be ruled by Ghidora and Mechagodzilla. What good did Megatron ever do? None. Go take your Decepticonism somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, row_33 said: not even remotely close takes an arrogant atheist to even dream up comparing the 20th century massacres of innocent people to religious deaths So you're saying religion is not as bad because it killed less people (or so you say)? Are you disputing that religion has killed millions and millions of people as I stated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: So you're saying religion is not as bad because it killed less people (or so you say)? Are you disputing that religion has killed millions and millions of people as I stated? Wtf? We don't have 20 people on a stage advocating moving toward the implementation of a theocracy. We have 20 people raising their hands for government control. The system does not work and when it fails, it's leaders resort to violence every time. Happy Venezuela. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Wtf? We don't have 20 people on a stage advocating moving toward the implementation of a theocracy. We have 20 people raising their hands for government control. The system does not work and when it fails, it's leaders resort to violence every time. Happy Venezuela. I never said it did nor that I support it. I just commented that religion and socialism and communism have killed millions and millions of people. Are you saying that's not true? Edited June 28, 2019 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 3 hours ago, reddogblitz said: I think Trump's right. Something is different about Uncle Joe this time. He doesn't look or sound right. This is Uncle Joe's Howard Dean scream moment. Joe Biden is as phony as his glow-in-the-dark dentures and his Villages tanning salon complexion. Chalk one up for Christianity as ButtPlug got killed last night. Actually, it was more like a suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 49 minutes ago, DC Tom said: What good did Megatron ever do? None. Go take your Decepticonism somewhere else. He ended the tyranny of Optimus Prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Ralonzo said: Harris knows what it's like going from one job to the next, day after day... it's tiwing. More like hour to hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: The number of deaths caused by communist/socialist--actually more like quasi communist/socialist--societies also pales in comparison to the deaths caused by (often directly in the name of) the major monotheistic religions that have prevailed throughout the world for the last couple millennia, with Christianity and Islam being the biggest culprits. Maybe we should all as a world revert to those polytheistic secular religions demonized (though ironically imitated) by Christianity and the other major monotheistic religions? After all, a fraction of the people died in the name of those secular religions in comparison. Learn your history. pulling something out of left field in order to deflect, not surprising. this is about politics not monotheistic religions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 46 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: I never said it did nor that I support it. I just commented that religion and socialism and communism have killed millions and millions of people. Are you saying that's not true? And an asteroid killed the dinosaurs. But we don't have any asteroids or theocrats running for president. Just communists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 JOURNALISM! This compilation of softballs NBC debate moderators lobbed to Democrats is something else . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 4 hours ago, snafu said: You have a hard time picturing your President having extramarital sex and mouthing off? You're serious? Am I missing the sarcasm? Yes, I have a hard time picturing my president wearing out kneepads while every Hairy Dick and Tom lines up for a bj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Foxx Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 34 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: And an asteroid killed the dinosaurs. But we don't have any asteroids or theocrats running for president. Just communists. pshaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted June 29, 2019 Author Share Posted June 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Yes, I have a hard time picturing my president wearing out kneepads while every Hairy Dick and Tom lines up for a bj. Your President is Trump, and you’re coming off as a single-minded misogynist. I’m no Harris fan, but your entendres are lame, repetitive and obvious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 3 hours ago, snafu said: Everyone on that stage last night (even the weird lady on the left and Swalwell) ran circles around Biden last night. It is only going to get worse for him. You'd be wise to count him out. Can't count him out. Biden's 8 year vice presidency under one of the most if not the most popular Democratic Presidents in history--not to mention our country's first Black President--keeps him very much in the game. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/democratic-debate-poll/ Who Won The First Democratic Debate? Biden does need to alter his approach a bit, but I really wouldn't be surprised if he gets the nomination even if he doesn't. Harris tightened the field a lot last night, but Biden is still the frontrunner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted June 29, 2019 Author Share Posted June 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Can't count him out. Biden's 8 year vice presidency under one of the most if not the most popular Democratic Presidents in history--not to mention our country's first Black President--keeps him very much in the game. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/democratic-debate-poll/ Who Won The First Democratic Debate? Biden does need to alter his approach a bit, but I really wouldn't be surprised if he gets the nomination even if he doesn't. Harris tightened the field a lot last night, but Biden is still the frontrunner. I’m sure people thought that about Jeb Bush about 4 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 3 hours ago, row_33 said: the 20th century and its atheistic states murdered more people than every other century combined Sheer numbers, sure, but not as far as percentage of the population. Religions have slaughtered a significantly higher percentage of population throughout history in accordance with their time periods. Besides, it's all religion of some sort, whether worshipping a God or green or flag or whatever, they all do the exact same thing, which is what ultimately results in bloodshed: Separate Us into Them. 3 hours ago, row_33 said: but you are just a jackass saying stupid things with each post you make Seems things like the truth gets under your skin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Again, this is a weak (and marxist) dodge. No one is talking about religion. No one votes for a national religion. What you're advocating is something we can vote for as a society. It's a bad deflection. Be better. You're all Republicans on here. Your party is really just the de facto Christian party. (Obviously this is the true irony based on the party's practice) A religion discussion is relevant in this instance considering you're claiming Communism and Socialism are responsible for over 100 million deaths. So I guess I would ask, to what degree are the ideologies themselves responsible for those deaths? Hell, communist/socialist ideology wasn't remotely connected to the Nazi regime's reason for slaughtering Jews. That was actually more of a religious reason than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Just now, transplantbillsfan said: You're all Republicans on here. I'm not a republican. 1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said: A religion discussion is relevant in this instance considering you're claiming Communism and Socialism are responsible for over 100 million deaths. It's not relevant. Again, you don't vote for a religion in this country, you vote for a political system. And communism and socialism are fundamentally against everything this country stands for -- and those political systems ALWAYS end in the deaths of millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 So what religion did Genghis Khan advocate? "Genghis Khan also advanced the Mongol Empire in other ways. He decreed the adoption of the Uyghur script as the Mongol Empire's writing system. He also practised meritocracy and encouraged religious tolerance in the Mongol Empire," Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 56 minutes ago, Foxx said: pulling something out of left field in order to deflect, not surprising. this is about politics not monotheistic religions. @Deranged Rhino brought up the 100+million deaths caused by Socialist/Communist--societies. Follow the bread crumbs. It's relevant. If you can't, goggle it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Just now, transplantbillsfan said: @Deranged Rhino brought up the 100+million deaths caused by Socialist/Communist--societies. Follow the bread crumbs. It's relevant. If you can't, goggle it It's not. Because we're talking about the current political agenda being pushed by the DNC. A political agenda that has slaughtered 100s of millions. Religion has nothing to do with it. It's a deflection, and one based in Marxist thinking -- which you're too uninformed on Marx to realize. No one is voting on the Catholic Church in 2020. I'll simplify it for you: Do you, @transplantbillsfan support socialism? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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