3rdnlng Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, snafu said: And once again, I pointed out that it seems highly hypocritical for you to point out her history while Trump sits in the Oval Office. That's how this started. And, again, I know that there's a difference between the two. And, again, you didn't bother to point out the difference until after I called you out. This has has devolved into stupidity. I'm leaving it aside from here in out. You can if you like -- or not. We fully knew what we were getting with Trump and he was voted into office. Don't you think we should fully know what we might be getting with Harris? Thanks for giving me your permission to end this. You've got my permission to stfu too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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snafu Posted June 29, 2019 Author Share Posted June 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Thanks for giving me your permission to end this. You've got my permission to stfu too. I’m just chiming in to let you know that you took that the wrong way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Pro-Trump Protests Both Nights At Democratic Debates. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 59 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Omph, not everyone is on the Kamala train: (this one is a thread) More at this article. Is there a danger of the African-American vote going over to Trump in 2020? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: Is there a danger of the African-American vote going over to Trump in 2020? Certainly not a majority.................................................but enough to make a decided difference . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 1 minute ago, row_33 said: Is there a danger of the African-American vote going over to Trump in 2020? Danger? I am not sure what would be dangerous about voting for Trump over one of the loonies running on the D side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, B-Man said: Certainly not a majority.................................................but enough to make a decided difference . i assumed the lazy pollsters didn't even bother asking, just mailed in the usual 99% and collected the paycheck it's a demographic that won't be boasting about voting for Trump, but nobody but yourself knows what lever you pulled when it mattered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 ------------------------------------ so poor Americans should denounce their citizenship in order to get free health care if the Dems win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 55 minutes ago, snafu said: I’m just chiming in to let you know that you took that the wrong way. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Back to the candidates Is Kamala Harris telling the truth about her Berkeley days? by Paul Mirengoff Original Article Harvard Must Set the Record Straight on Elizabeth Warren by Hal Lambert Original Article All Joe Biden Had to Do Was Look Moderate, and He Blew It by Kyle Smith Original Article Socialist drift jeopardizes Dems’ chances of connecting with Cuban-American voters by Alex Pappas Original Article Kamala Harris’ Attack on Joe Biden May Have Backfired Original Article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 ...the recent political climate, or perhaps going back 16+ years make the Nixon Dark Days look like pablum.......the Clinton Crime Syndicate got the ball rolling and then propped up the Illinois Jr Senator as a Fraud Pres. surrounded by ex-Clintonites....Emmanual, Sperling, Begaula, Bloomenthal & Bloomenthal, Podestra & Podestra, etc......perpetuated their grip on power.....built their base by kowtowing to the black & latino vote, favoring open borders to illegals (why the 'eff did my grandparents have to come through Ellis Island the LEGAL way?) and not giving a rat's azz as far as the ramifications on the country....their current "crop of crap" offerings are comical?.....Biden?...seriously?..never had a job other than politics says "Copyright (plagerism) Joe".....Kamala?......rode "Willie's wonka" to prominence?....Pocahontas?....'nuff said there....Corey Booker?...um okay....NYC 's flop house mayor?.....a real gem....quite an impressive list....do I like Trump pre-presidency?....nope...but the guy is as irascible, caustic,repugnanant and as combative as the "establishment" has EVER seen....never thought we woud see the corruption of DOJ or FBI exposed as it has been.....we thought FBI's J Edgar was bad....and we thought we had the "best political system in the world"....LOL....we are painfully learning otherwise.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) This was similar my overall feeling when watching the debates. I cringed when they all raised their hands saying they'd cover health insurance for illegals. A Wretched Start for Democrats The party seems interested in helping everyone except the voters it needs. Amigos demócratas, Si ustedes siguen así, van a perder las elecciones. Y lo merecerán. Translation for the linguistically benighted: “Democratic friends, if you go on like this, you’re going to lose the elections. And you’ll deserve it.” In this week’s Democratic debates, it wasn’t just individual candidates who presented themselves to the public. It was also the party itself. What conclusions should ordinary people draw about what Democrats stand for, other than a thunderous repudiation of Donald Trump, and how they see America, other than as a land of unscrupulous profiteers and hapless victims? Here’s what: a party that makes too many Americans feel like strangers in their own country. A party that puts more of its faith, and invests most of its efforts, in them instead of us. They speak Spanish. We don’t. They are not U.S. citizens or legal residents. We are. They broke the rules to get into this country. We didn’t. They pay few or no taxes. We already pay most of those taxes. They willingly got themselves into debt. We’re asked to write it off. They don’t pay the premiums for private health insurance. We’re supposed to give up ours in exchange for some V.A.-type nightmare. They didn’t start enterprises that create employment and drive innovation. We’re expected to join the candidates in demonizing the job-creators, breaking up their businesses and taxing them to the hilt. That was the broad gist of the Democratic message, in which the only honorable exceptions, like Maryland’s John Delaney and Colorado’s John Hickenlooper, came across as square dancers at a rave. On closer inspection, the message got even worse. Promising access to health insurance for north of 11 million undocumented immigrants at a time when there’s a migration crisis at the southern border? Every candidate at Thursday’s debate raised a hand for that one, in what was surely the evening’s best moment for the Trump campaign. Calling for the decriminalization of border crossings (while opposing a wall)? That was a major theme of Wednesday’s debate, underlining the Republican contention that Democrats are a party of open borders, limitless amnesty and, in time, the Third World-ization of America. Switching to Spanish? Memo to Beto O’Rourke and Cory Booker: If you can’t speak the language without a heavy American accent, don’t bother. It just reminds those of us who can that the only thing worse than an obnoxious gringo is a pandering one. Eliminating private health insurance, an industry that employs more than 500,000 workers and insures 150 million? Elizabeth Warren, Bill de Blasio, Bernie Sanders and Kamala Harris support it (though the California senator later recanted the position). Since Democrats are already committed to destroying the coal industry and seem inclined to turn Silicon Valley into a regulated utility, it’s worth asking: Just how much of the private economy are they even willing to keep? And then there are the costs that Democrats want to impose on the country. Warren, for instance, favors universal child care (estimated cost, $70 billion a year), Medicare-For-All ($2.8 trillion to $3.2 trillion annually), student-debt cancellation and universal free college ($125 billion annually), and a comprehensive climate action plan ($2 trillion, including $100 billion in aid to poor countries), along with a raft of smaller giveaways, like debt relief for Puerto Rico. As Everett Dirksen might have said: A trillion here, a trillion there, and pretty soon you’re talking real money. Someone will have to pay for all this, and it won’t just be the very rich making between seven and 10 figures a year. It will be you. Throughout the debates, I kept wondering if any of the leading candidates would speak to Americans beyond the Democratic base. But Joe Biden seemed too feeble, oratorically and intellectually, to buck the self-defeating trend. Pete Buttigieg was, as always, fluent, knowledgeable and sincere. But his big moment — a mea culpa for a racially charged policing incident in South Bend — felt like another well-mannered white guy desperate to put his wokeness on display. Harris, meanwhile, came across as Barack Obama in reverse, especially with her scurrilous attack on Biden for the sin of having had a functional political relationship with two former segregationist senators in the 1970s. This was portrayed as a clever debate move but it will come to haunt her. Obama’s political genius was to emphasize what Greg Lukianoff and Jonathan Haidt, authors of ‘The Coddling of the American Mind,” have called “common-humanity identity politics”— he made you feel comfortable no matter the color of your skin. Harris’s approach, by contrast, is “common-enemy identity politics.” Making white Americans feel racially on trial for views they may have held in the past on crime, busing and similar subjects is not going to help the Democrats. None of this means that Democrats can’t win in 2020. The economy could take a bad turn. Or Trump could outdo himself in loathsomeness. But the Democratic Party we saw this week did even less to appeal beyond its base than the president. And at least his message is that he’s on their — make that our — side. Edited June 29, 2019 by Doc Brown 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/29/us/politics/fake-joe-biden-website.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: This was similar my overall feeling when watching the debates. I cringed when they all raised their hands saying they'd cover health insurance for illegals. A Wretched Start for Democrats The party seems interested in helping everyone except the voters it needs. I would like to believe that many of them knew it was the wrong thing to raise your hand for. Unfortunately, there is NO way anyone could get the nomination in today's Democrat Party without going in lockstep with the radical Left. Too bad. My parents were conservative democrats, they would have been appalled at where this "party of the people" is . Edited June 29, 2019 by B-Man 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, IDBillzFan said: Oh please...we listen endlessly to how horrible it is that Trump is a sexist pig for paying off a porn star or how Kavanaugh was a rapist, but you mock one black chick for knobgobbling her way into office, and suddenly people are misogynists? Can’t wait for Knoblowchular to reveal the spit roast videos. They’ll have more weight than the Peeing Proatitutes of St. Petersburg Hotel 5 hours ago, RochesterRob said: I think that Jimmy goes before Bill but it is somewhat surprising to see how Bill has aged physically. I don't see Bill living to 85 at this point. I still think Hillary is on a mission to get herself elected and if that does not come to be in 2020 then she lives to attempt to place Chelsea in the White House. But despite her deal with the devil I don't see her going past 85. I think for most traditional Big Labor or Big Government Democrats it is Biden that they want and maybe they would warm to Tulsi Gabbard if we are getting a true glimpse of who she is. The GOP today is not the party of Reagan. Today's GOP is about getting into the damn country club anyway possible damn the ethics. The old GOP consisted of bankers that would never approve an auto loan for more than 4 years never mind double the expected lifetime of a vehicle. It might have hurt a few people but for the vast majority it made people live within their means. Bill is a shriveled prune. He’s been sucked dry. Careful. She might throw the race/planned parenthood/sexist/anti Jamaican card against your azz. 5 hours ago, snafu said: @IDBillzFan I get it, the real point is that she earned her promotions in a way that’s hypocritical. That wasn’t 3rdlng’s message until AFTER all these posts — it was yours. He might have been thinking it, but his posts were simple ad homenim attacks. And the current POTUS hasn’t undergone an incessant barrage of ad hominem attracts. Makes one wonder what hailstorm of media attacks await the next holder of that office. 3 hours ago, row_33 said: Is there a danger of the African-American vote going over to Trump in 2020? Yep. Like, they’ve done so well after the last 200 + years of Democrat plantation management. Edited June 29, 2019 by Nanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 11 hours ago, Nanker said: And he’s the target of Buttaplug. The ineffective mayor of an insignificant city has a jihad going against Pence and all Christians. He’s the only candidate trying to delegitimize Christianity. How far the Leftists have come. Embrace their rainbow coalition Climate Change religious dogma or face public scorn. ButtPlug has a *****-stained mouth, a sore rectum, and a perverted sense of what is largely considered “normal” in America. I don’t give two ***** for his sexual orientation or his proclivities to stuff objects up his fundament the “wrong way” in order to gain his sexual gratification. I support his right to take as much #### up his azz as he (or his many partners) want. He can shower his face, chest, throat, and azz with the ***** of a thousand men for all I care. But he he is in no way the arbiter of morality in America today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 1 hour ago, B-Man said: I would like to believe that many of them knew it was the wrong thing to raise your hand for. Unfortunately, there is NO way anyone could get the nomination in today's Democrat Party without going in lockstep with the radical Left. Too bad. My parents were conservative democrats, they would have been appalled at where this "party of the people" is The good thing about a two party system is that if one party gets out of whack America will let them know at the ballot box and they have to reverse course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nanker said: ButtPlug has a *****-stained mouth, a sore rectum, and a perverted sense of what is largely considered “normal” in America. I don’t give two ***** for his sexual orientation or his proclivities to stuff objects up his fundament the “wrong way” in order to gain his sexual gratification. I support his right to take as much #### up his azz as he (or his many partners) want. He can shower his face, chest, throat, and azz with the ***** of a thousand men for all I care. But he he is in no way the arbiter of morality in America today. the perverse is being normalized more and more everyday. they have gotten to the point where next up on the list of the perverse to normalize is pedophilia and they have already begun. don't get me wrong, if you want to be perverse, that is your business. but if you want to run for office and impose your perversion as normal on society, then i have a problem with that. time to duck the tomatoes... Edited June 29, 2019 by Foxx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 I love when the "fair press" ? feeds the questions to a candidate, or accepts set-up questions from a candidate, so one candidate can form a narrative against another candidate. The MSM, up to their old tricks to influence an election. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 It wasn’t important then, but it is now. So, shaddup! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) I didn't watch a second of the clown car parade, but from reports, I noticed that not a single one of the idiots mentioned Trump's foreign policies. Edited June 30, 2019 by Wacka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 On 6/28/2019 at 8:24 PM, Deranged Rhino said: I'm not a republican. Welcome to the new reality. If someone goes far enough left it's easy to call you far-right! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 20 hours ago, snafu said: And once again, I pointed out that it seems highly hypocritical for you to point out her history while Trump sits in the Oval Office. That's how this started. And, again, I know that there's a difference between the two. And, again, you didn't bother to point out the difference until after I called you out. This has has devolved into stupidity. I'm leaving it aside from here in out. You can if you like -- or not. On the surface I agree with you. I despise this sort of garbage on either side of the aisle. However, just as you point out the potential for a double standard where Harris is concerned, it seems to me that all bets are off and each party and much of the population wants it that way. Some very basic evidence: Clinton was 2 minutes into the first debate when she hit Trump with every imaginable bias-based insult in the English language. I'll just summarize them as every "-ist word". Where were the calls for restraint? Kamala Harris revealed herself as a full-on 100% committed political operative during the Kavanaugh hearing. Where were the calls for restraint? Was there concern for a man with three decades of exceptional public service, a husband and father or two girls when unproven allegations of deviant sexual behavior/serial rapist were advanced by Harris and her posse? How about the propagation of the #ibelieveher and the next version just over the horizon #hemustbedestroyedatallcosts. This all falls into the category of "it is what it is." and one could argue that if you want the equality of consequences, well, looks like we are getting there. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 good work snafu, keep trying to corral the whole internet to be as sensible as you think you are 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 49 minutes ago, row_33 said: good work snafu, keep trying to corral the whole internet to be as sensible as you think you are pot/kettle and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 NeverTrumper Bret Stephens writes a column saying that the left is scaring away voters the Dems need to win. Gets called a white supremacist. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 23 minutes ago, B-Man said: NeverTrumper Bret Stephens writes a column saying that the left is scaring away voters the Dems need to win. Gets called a white supremacist. ? As the Democrat clown car shifts into gear, I suspect we'll start seeing several NeverTrumpers with tacit endorsements of Trump 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 " Copyright Joe (I'll leave plagiarizing to him; he 's pretty damn good) is beyond woefully pathetic as a candidate.....NO disrespect, but reminds me of GOP having Dole as presidential candidate.....Joe has never had a real job in his life.....entire career is as a politician, which "ain't work" IMO.....he is a walking 24/7 gaffe period......and the rest of the Dem candidates are circus clowns dressed in a barrel, ***** themselves with every unpaid giveaway in the world to BUY power?.....Trump?.. as irascible, caustic and insulting as they come, but the "good 'ol boyz political climate" in this country needed to be turned upside down and inside out....who else would have the bawlz to do it?....the exposure of graft, corruption, etc alone in our once "thought to be stalwarts of the world's greatest democracy(COUGH)" , as in DOJ or FBI (makes Hoover look like an altar boy) now portrays us as a political dump...and sadly, we ain't even scratched the surface.....wonder how the late JFK likes his Dems now?...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted June 30, 2019 Author Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Foxx said: pot/kettle and all that. If the pot has a lid and one handle, I’d prefer to be the pot. If not, I’d accept kettle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, snafu said: If the pot has a lid and one handle, I’d prefer to be the pot. If not, I’d accept kettle. I'm old enough to remember the relationship between pot and a lid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) ....first, in the spirit of FULL DISCLOSURE, I am an independent with conservative leanings.......can vote a split ticket if necessary based on candidate(s).....now let's move on to my late mother and her siblings as well as their children.......HINT: dyed in the wool Democrats PERIOD (why I avoided family functions).....a sister who live in VA thought she was the world's best political analyst.....return address mailing label said "ALWAYS A DEMOCRAT"....Ronald Regan ruined her life......George Bush was not her President....moving on to my mother with the Regan election...nothing but a B rated movie actor running the country.....or a cousin telling me how much good Monica did for the country because she probably "relaxed" Bill to where he could do his job better after stress relief.....or another cousing following in Daddy's footsteps how Bush invaded Iraq only for their oil, but I think we hit 4 bucks a gallon for gas after the favorable (COUGH) invasion....folks, I kid you not....this is some of the "rational" thinking out there and I'm sure it exists on the staunch Republican side of the equation....good Lord, this is scary stuff....more loose screws than I could have ever imagined...wow........... Edited June 30, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 I liked the woman who cast spells and talked of chakras and love conquering all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 I see conservatives are donating to Team Williamson to keep her taking up valuable time as the campaign keeps on truckin’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 minute ago, row_33 said: I see conservatives are donating to Team Williamson to keep her taking up valuable time as the campaign keeps on truckin’ $1 campaign contributions might cost the campaign more than $1 to process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine Federally Enforced Busing would be an issue pushed by Democrats in the upcoming presidential election. Trump needs to get on his hands and knees and thank God for this. His billions couldn't buy this kind of crazy. Democrat candidates at the next debate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Mary Magdalene and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 From the speech she gave in her "wonderful coat" “He says he wants to make America great again. Again for whom? Back before couples could marry, all couples? Back before gay couples could adopt? ” She added, “Well, I’m president because we’re not going back.” She might as well say "I won't let Trump take ANY green cheese from Mars" ... for this has the same validity as what she's carping about here. Trump doesn't CARE about gay marriage. He hasn't said BOO about it. Kumala is spouting Dem-Gibberish again Reminds me of the "Romney will make birth control illegal" sh*t They HAVE to make up scare stories to keep the base involved. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 20 minutes ago, B-Man said: From the speech she gave in her "wonderful coat" “He says he wants to make America great again. Again for whom? Back before couples could marry, all couples? Back before gay couples could adopt? ” She added, “Well, I’m president because we’re not going back.” . She must’ve been referring to Obama’s first term. You’re right Kamala, we don’t want to go back to that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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