BB@Shooter Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 4 hours ago, kbarrettb said: I don’t hate him. Just being honest about today. No reason to think anything else other than that I would like to see how you talk when you hate on a player. Sheesh. 2 hours ago, PeterDude said: He is a piece all right... And you are right there with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB@Shooter Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 4 hours ago, kbarrettb said: What positive did he have today? I said positive he’s a better runner than he is a qb. He didn’t do anything positive throwing the ball today And that tells me up know very little about football. They wanted Allen to stay within himself. He did what they asked. Get over it. You are like a brouen record. Did your woman leave you or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: You didn't think today was bad? Wow. He was. Look the point with him was he was raw and needed a lot of development. So we don't know after 5 weeks and we might not know after 16 weeks. But so far it is 1 average game, 1 good game and then two bad ones back to back. Yeah he was bad. That sequence where he threw two terrible passes in a row to Benjamin was particularly disheartening. But you don't get better passing the ball by handing it off and throwing it behind the LOS either. This could end up being something of a wasted developmental year for Allen. His first 4 starts have gone by in the blink of an eye with very little passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Yeah he was bad. That sequence where he threw two terrible passes in a row to Benjamin was particularly disheartening. But you don't get better passing the ball by handing it off and throwing it behind the LOS either. This could end up being something of a wasted developmental year for Allen. His first 4 starts have gone by in the blink of an eye with very little passing. He's getting a ton of experience regardless of his passing attempts. Everything from practice reps to running the huddle is valuable. And it's hard to imagine that quarterbacking a game winning drive, regardless of the mode of attack, isn't a positive for Josh's development. Minnesota was a big positive as well. Lets pump the brakes on the early criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, SWATeam said: He's getting a ton of experience regardless of his passing attempts. Everything from practice reps to running the huddle is valuable. And it's hard to imagine that quarterbacking a game winning drive, regardless of the mode of attack, isn't a positive for Josh's development. Minnesota was a big positive as well. Lets pump the brakes on the early criticism. JP Losman looked to be making huge strides playing conservative football under Jauron in year 1 of that era too. It was a lot of running and deep shots off of play action.........and optically he had a really good year. But the Bills also had a very good pass defense that created a lot of turnovers that helped them execute their Jauron Ball. That offseason they traded and let a lot of those defenders walk. And so they then needed JP to be more of a passer and all that "experience" playing not-to-lose proved to be a COMPLETE waste of time. You get better passing the football by passing the football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/ManuEJ00/gamelog/ https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LosmJ.00/gamelog/ His numbers actually look much more like Losman than EJ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 8 hours ago, Buddy Hix said: Allen is about to be replaced by Derek Anderson, in 2018. Allen was bad today, and it's obvious that Daboll has zero confidence in him based on the play calling. The day I reach this point of drunk is the day I need to go to AA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 7 hours ago, 1st&ten said: Well, if you don't know I can't explain it to you. Did you actually ever play on a football team ? Did you play on a professional football team with a dude in the booth?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 5 hours ago, HappyDays said: He played his best ball in the 4th quarter which is encouraging. He made 2 excellent passes in a row and unfortunately Holmes caused the 2nd to be a pick. I would have liked to see how that drive turned out. I like that Daboll took the offense out of Allen's hands today. Bring him along slowly and let him get into a rhythm. The offense should run through Shady and Ivory. I'm not a fan of the play designs where Allen immediately runs out of the pocket to his right. Defenses are keyed into that and it isn't working. We didn't take a single deep shot this game. I wonder if that was by design or if we just didn't get the right defensive looks. We're not going to be taking any more deep shots the rest of the season nor should we. Foster is completely unreliable and can't catch a cold and it's not worth the risk considering we have no one else on this roster who is a deep threat. We're just going to have to settle for short quick reads mid-range passes on hooks and outs and hope that our running game is consistent until we get more reinforcements next season. This is the worst Buffalo Bill wide receiver unit in the history of the franchise and it's not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: You didn't think today was bad? Wow. He was. Look the point with him was he was raw and needed a lot of development. So we don't know after 5 weeks and we might not know after 16 weeks. But so far it is 1 average game, 1 good game and then two bad ones back to back. He actually made the necessary throws to win the game. The passes to the RBs was on time and helped move the sticks especially in the final drive. Tell me which of his throws were real bad. The one I saw was to Benjamin on the 3rd down...That was very low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: The day I reach this point of drunk is the day I need to go to AA. Some people still seem to have not seen the follow up tweet - which, let me tell you, is a LOT of fun... 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: We're not going to be taking any more deep shots the rest of the season nor should we. Foster is completely unreliable and can't catch a cold and it's not worth the risk considering we have no one else on this roster who is a deep threat. We're just going to have to settle for short quick reads mid-range passes on hooks and outs and hope that our running game is consistent until we get more reinforcements next season. This is the worst Buffalo Bill wide receiver unit in the history of the franchise and it's not even close. The flea flicker was fun! Just a shame no one bit. At least allen was aware he had to place it in a spot where his guy wld be the only one with a shot. Sadly it went to KB, so no one really ever had a shot...but u get the point Edited October 8, 2018 by gobills1212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbarrettb Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 5 hours ago, BB@Shooter said: And that tells me up know very little about football. They wanted Allen to stay within himself. He did what they asked. Get over it. You are like a brouen record. Did your woman leave you or something? English hard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 9 hours ago, Buddy Hix said: The “stop posting because your opinion is different than mine” guy, nice to meet you. Shall I explain how a message board works? it's self explanatory when it comes to your posts/opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 This season wasn’t about wins and losses. It’s about Josh Allen’s development and he looked awful again. We won in spite of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 8 hours ago, IronyAbounds said: It's silly for anyone to say Allen will be a bust or a franchise QB at this point. There is not enough data and what data exists is mixed at best. Today's game was won by the defense, and the +2 in turnovers. I really don't see how anyone can say Allen's overall game contributed to the win. His stats were exactly the type that people roasted Taylor and Manuel over. Nonetheless, he didn't make a mistake that cost the Bills the game. It's just going to take time to sort out. I'm happy to take the win and move on. If the Bills can squeak out another win before the midway point, maybe then can go 6-2 down the stretch and see if 9-7 gets them in. It's a long shot, but things look better than they did after week 2, particularly on defense. You cannot see how his overall game contributed to the win. Who scored the only TD of the game? This is the problem with drafting a young QB. People roast him no matter what. The kid is, actually, a kid. He is learning. Yesterday he showed progress over the Packers game. He threw the ball away several times instead of taking sacks. If you watch him from the pocket, when he has time to set up he actually is pretty accurate, although he need to still work on his shorter passes. He was much more decisive on where he wanted to go with the ball. It seems clear his teammates are behind him. And for the first time in a long time a Bills offense had a last 2 min rally, came down the field, and won the game. I was a Rosen guy myself. But he is struggling as well. He was 10-25 yesterday and almost half his yards were on one pass to a wide open guy downfield. And if I were a Cards fan I wouldn't roast him either. Although I'm sure some are there. The four QBs drafted early round one are doing just what you'd expect. Developing. Some good some bad. They all won games yesterday. Good for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobblehead Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, ******* said: ARE you kidding me? He is NOT accurate and you cannot teach accuracy. Plain and simple. There will be another starting qb in a few years Why can’t you teach accuracy? Edited October 8, 2018 by bobblehead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, bobblehead said: Why can’t you teach accuracy? You can. This is just the same old crap parroted time and time again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 13 hours ago, John from Riverside said: So this basically was his first big moment in the NFL....a chance to lead the team to a come from behind victory.....against a hot team.....where he easily could have tried to do to much and lost the game for us.... No, you're right. Let's anoint him as the savior now. We haven't had a QB recently who ever had a 4th Q comeback. EJ Manuel never did that, Tyrod Taylor never did that. Those 2 swing passes and handoffs are the foundations of a dynasty I tells ya. We got it right this time for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 minute ago, That's No Moon said: No, you're right. Let's anoint him as the savior now. We haven't had a QB recently who ever had a 4th Q comeback. EJ Manuel never did that, Tyrod Taylor never did that. Those 2 swing passes and handoffs are the foundations of a dynasty I tells ya. We got it right this time for sure. Nobody said savior....nobody But also saying that he did nothing is also not true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Nobody said savior....nobody But also saying that he did nothing is also not true I'm sorry what's the title of this thread? OK, let me re-phrase. Josh Allen is clearly "The Piece" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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