Roundybout Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 20 minutes ago, teef said: letter to the management. i'm telling ya, if enough of us do it, it just might work. I started a petition on change.org and changed my profile picture on Facebook, that should help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Teddy KGB said: This take is way way hotter. Why would this offense slow down in week 8 ? I think it is a reference to Andy Reid’s offenses having a history of being worse in the 2nd half of seasons. I have seen it referred to a few times in recent weeks but never seen the stats that back the assertion up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: I started a petition on change.org and changed my profile picture on Facebook, that should help good work. why should we all sit around on a message board and passively complain to one another. it's time for action bitches. anyone who's not willing to write a letter can take a back seat. action time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Just now, nucci said: No but the Bills could be 1 year in to the rebuild if they drafted either Watson or Mahomes and could have used this draft to fix some glaring needs...they just pushed it back one year....I'm guessing Allen will be good...just could have accelerated the build Yes, one more year into the rebuild and still 54 million in dead cap money. Likely still 1-3 record and everyone on this board still pissed. The rebuild doesn't come into view until next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, teef said: good work. why should we all sit around on a message board and passively complain to one another. it's time for action bitches. anyone who's not willing to write a letter can take a back seat. action time. ❤️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I won't say that not picking Mahomes was a mistake, but not picking Mahomes and then picking Josh Allen a year later, who is essentially just a worse version of Mahomes, doesn't make any freaking sense. Mahomes was a much better prospect than Josh Allen. They're both big, they're both mobile, and they both have rocket arms. Why did we not take the guy who showed in college that he can throw a football really well and instead opt for the guy who was just a mediocre QB in a terrible conference? Makes no sense whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, mjt328 said: Let's give it some time. Defenses are just starting to see what Patrick Mahomes is bringing to the table. Last year, Deshaun Watson was absolutely tearing up the NFL as a rookie. This year, he's struggled pretty bad at times. It just took awhile for defensive coordinators to figure out the best way to counter his skills. I know it's frustrating to see Mahomes (and Watson for that matter) playing great in the NFL, knowing we could have drafted either. Unfortunately, it's more about bad timing than anything else. Watson struggled in the first half of the first game. Since then he has been pretty good on a bad team. 1,200+ yards 62%+ completion 7 TDs to 4 INTs 93+ passer rating PFFs #7 QB All of which on a team that hasn’t stopped anyone on defence and has been forced to throw a lot. I totally understand why the focus has been on Mahomes. He has been brilliant. But Watson save for that first half in New England has been very good again too. The Bills missed on that draft not taking a QB. I understand the timing reasons but it Allen is not the guy their approach to the 2017 draft will rightly be criticised. When you get the chance to draft good QBs you take them - you don’t punt. Edited October 2, 2018 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 it's gut wrenching to think we could have had mahomes that trade is a disaster....and tre white is a home run stud. based on what I've seen so far.....allen will never be a franchise qb…..a solid starter at best mahomes is clearly a franchise qb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 you can make a case that the Bills could have a supporting cast for Mahomes, taking over this year from Tyrod of: Cordy Glenn, Dawkins, Watkins, Calvin Ridley, McCoy. Thats not awful. They could have kept Darby and not donked him off for Matthews (because they wouldnt have White). In any case, losing the pro bowl caliber G and C due to health is a gut punch and tough to recover from. Jury is still out, and likely will be out until the conclusion of next season. If not, the first half of the 2020 season. The one thing that continues to plague my thoughts is the apparent lack of a coherent plan to bring Allen along, and/or surround him with some sort of veteran presence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Like Ive said. This new regime thinks it takes 5 years to rebuild a team. In today's NFL this is far from the way to do things. It will be interesting to see if they make it there. I concur...there is a lot of roster turnover even with good teams.....problem is many vets will be gone next season and there still isn't a core of players to build around except for Allen....most of the starters on offense will need to be replaced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 9 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said: Beane wasn’t even here Even worse! Fire him for not bring here to draft <Insert 'flavour of the month QB' here>! Heads must roll! In 4 games he has looked really good on a very good team with lots of offensive weapons. But it's only been 4 games, let's see what he does all season. Watsons shine seemed to come falling off from last season before his injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 9 hours ago, Klaista2k said: Someone needs to be held accountable for this. If it was McDermott and Beane's decision get their asses the hell out of Buffalo. They don't deserve to be running the team anymore. You are completely correct, this is 100% on Beane. I don't care if he was still working for the Panthers, this is all his fault!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 8 hours ago, KOKBILLS said: Well... I hate to say I told you so... But...I would have taken him #1 overall in that Draft...The Bills could have had him at #10... I love TreDa as much as anyone...But it was a flat out swing and a miss by whoever made that decision... Life goes on...I'm a Josh Allen fan now...? The saving grace out of some really bad personnel handling is that they may have their own QB. It really is an interesting scenario because the Bills have never traded the pick that was then used by the acquiring team to attain their stud QB. They've passed on QB's........but not directly shown their own incompetence like this. But then at the same time they DID address the position with a top 10 pick on really talented QB a year later......which nobody in the organization has had the cajones to do for the previous 58 years. Drafting QB's early is pretty standard stuff everywhere else but since that's not the case here they have made a *relatively* seismic impact on the franchise if nothing else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 9 hours ago, Klaista2k said: Someone needs to be held accountable for this. If it was McDermott and Beane's decision get their asses the hell out of Buffalo. They don't deserve to be running the team anymore. Has anyone yet pointed out that Beane was not on the payroll during this draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, jrober38 said: I won't say that not picking Mahomes was a mistake, but not picking Mahomes and then picking Josh Allen a year later, who is essentially just a worse version of Mahomes, doesn't make any freaking sense. Mahomes was a much better prospect than Josh Allen. They're both big, they're both mobile, and they both have rocket arms. Why did we not take the guy who showed in college that he can throw a football really well and instead opt for the guy who was just a mediocre QB in a terrible conference? Makes no sense whatsoever. Their situations aren’t comparable. Mahomes played in an innovative, pass-happy spread offense. Allen played in a system directly out of a playbook from 1955. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 54 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Yeah, why didn’t they hire Andy Reid as their offensive coordinator?! Idiots should be fired for that. A near historic 200 yards passing outside the pocket running for his life against the Broncos beastly pass rush. Yeah......just like Andy drew it up. 53 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: How would Mahomes do on the Bills offense this year? Not much better than Allen is my guess. The guy has Tyreek Hill, Kelce, Hunt, and Watkins No wonder he is lighting it up. He is an amazing QB but I doubt he would be as successful with the current Bills offense It's been mentioned but McD had a very suspect first offseason as de facto GM and passing on Mahomes had a domino effect that has lead to them getting rid of a lot of players who are going to be playing very well in the playoffs for other teams for the next few seasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 7 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Nobody is getting fired when this team doesnt do well this year.....they will be moving onto whatever premium pass rusher they can get with that first round pick and then probably go heavy on offense the rest of the way Then they traded for their franchise QB the following year. I really think ppl are just upset at the order we did it.....to think Mahommes would look the same with this group of crap is for the challenged I guess you could chalk me as "upset with the order they did it", but not at the order per se, rather the value received vs value given up. If it's a plan, I find it hard to understand. I'm not sure about the "nobody getting fired". I think if the Bills continue to be embarrassing in how they play, all bets are off. i think the Pegulas were prepared for losses and learning experience but not laughingstock level incompetence. I think McDermott has figured that out, too and that's why he was uncharacteristically animated in his presser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 lets pump the brakes. I understand the kid has looked sensational. I'd agree with that statement. But the kid has played four games. I've seen lots of QB's look "sensational" for four games and then come back to reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Their situations aren’t comparable. Mahomes played in an innovative, pass-happy spread offense. Allen played in a system directly out of a playbook from 1955. Exactly. Mahomes spent his college career throwing the football 50 times a game. Allen learned next to nothing in college. If we wanted a big, strong, mobile QB with a rocket arm, we should have picked Mahomes. He was a much better prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 #1 Mahomes was able to sit behind a vet and just watch for a year. (Something I still think we should trade for and do) #2 KC has an incredible supporting cast #3 No one on this earth had any clue Mahomes would be good other then KC fans and there crystal ball and management hoping so. #4 I truly think the person that is really screwing with our current QB is our OC. Example.. 3rd and 4 and 3 out of the 4 receivers out on a rout go deep. Tell me why? Another example, constantly running McCoy up the middle in a bad line. Pitch it to him.. do something different. #5 our supporting cast is near worst in league right now. Fans are BITTER! could of had.. would have.. and its because our rookie is looking bad right now. Fans you want to be ticked off? BE ticked off at these things.. #1 Why didn't they work harder fixing this OL in FA, Draft. when your a team in a draft its normally BPA. But when your have a team that is in bad shape like this O'Line you don't just do very little about it and hope backups will hold up. #2 How come they didn't work harder getting better, faster receivers in here? #3 How come they didn't see how bad Peterman really is? Why not junk him now for a vet and let Josh Allen learn and play? those are the things fans should be ticked off about... You build an Line at same time you get your QB. When you get your what you think is a Franchise QB.. That line at the very least is strong.. I mean seriously? how many times are we going to see the left or right guard help pinch on a DT for no reason what so ever and watch a LB run right around him? be ticked off at these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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