James Harrison encourages Bell to fake injury

[Dablitzkrieg]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24801142/james-harrison-says-leveon-bell-return-pittsburgh-steelers-fake-injury-avoid-games

 

[YoloinOhio]

Steelers lapping up their daily drama vitamin! 

 

[Malazan]

James Harrison has been faking a head injury for a long time

[wppete]

Bell is all drama. stay away from him. This is what e is doing with his time now. Not playing football or training. 

 

 

[WhoTom]

I hear there's a bad strain of Plantar fasciitis going around these days.

 

[Gugny]

Leveon Bell deserves to be blackballed more than Kaepernick.

[Teddy KGB]

5 minutes ago, Gugny said:

Leveon Bell deserves to be blackballed more than Kaepernick.

 

Won’t happen.     Unlike Kaepernick Bell has value.  

[Punching Bag]

I have been told multiple times when Bills players hold out they are exercising their right.

So why should he be blackballed?

[frostbitmic]

Whatever respect I had for James Harrison is gone.

[Gugny]

9 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

 

Won’t happen.     Unlike Kaepernick Bell has value.  

 

2 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

I have been told multiple times when Bills players hold out they are exercising their right.

So why should he be blackballed?

 

Teddy - Bell absolutely has value - but not nearly as much as he seems to think (although, some dumbass GM will overpay a RB); similar to Kaep - who thinks he's a plugin starter (which he is not).

 

Limeaid - I hate it when Bills players (Byrd, Watkins) feign injury for personal gain, too.  Players like that don't belong on a professional football team.  I understand holding out for some players.  Pretending to be hurt to save oneself for another team whilst getting paid by the team(mates) they're !@#$ing over is a completely different thing.

[eball]

44 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

I have been told multiple times when Bills players hold out they are exercising their right.

So why should he be blackballed?

 

Every situation should be viewed on its own merits.  Generally speaking, players need to stand up for themselves and I typically support them.  I don't think that's what Bell is doing any more.

[Soda Popinski]

Let it play out, neither side seems to be budging on this.   

[nucci]

Interesting if Bell signs by week 10....also interesting to see if Steelers drop the tag...going to lose him anyway and save on salary....and do they want him to play this season

Edited September 26, 2018 by nucci

[whatdrought]

I think Bell is a diva and kinda a douche, but I also understand his side of things- The franchise tag seems like the most unfair "agreement" in the free market world. Not sure how anyone ever thought that was a good idea.

 

So while I usually do not agree with holdouts (I didn't care For Mack's holdout), I definitely don't approve of the franchise tag. The Steelers were stupid in their whole handling of this and this, plus the implosion that is waiting just beneath the surface (which a win against a mediocre bucs team does not cure) are going to make this once great franchise look silly. 

 

 

2 minutes ago, nucci said:

Interesting if Bell signs by week 10....also interesting to see if Steelers drop the tag...going to lose him anyway and save on salary....and do they want him to play this season

 

Better to get a 3-4th round pick for him than just drop him. I would think that some team would throw something their way for him. 

Edited September 26, 2018 by whatdrought

[jimmy10]

Should've encouraged Vontae Davis to do the same thing. 

[Punching Bag]

The players union agreed to it.  I am sure NFL would erase that but they would want something else like lower percentage.

 

NFL should insist in next contract for every holdout percentage goes down - then players would be seen hurting other players.

[nucci]

6 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

I think Bell is a diva and kinda a douche, but I also understand his side of things- The franchise tag seems like the most unfair "agreement" in the free market world. Not sure how anyone ever thought that was a good idea.

 

So while I usually do not agree with holdouts (I didn't care For Mack's holdout), I definitely don't approve of the franchise tag. The Steelers were stupid in their whole handling of this and this, plus the implosion that is waiting just beneath the surface (which a win against a mediocre bucs team does not cure) are going to make this once great franchise look silly. 

 

 

 

Better to get a 3-4th round pick for him than just drop him. I would think that some team would throw something their way for him. 

Yeah, I agree.....waiting game now

[Juice_32]

1 hour ago, WhoTom said:

I hear there's a bad strain of Plantar fasciitis going around these days.

 

Aka Jairus Byrd disease.

[quinnearlysghost88]

3 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

The players union agreed to it.  I am sure NFL would erase that but they would want something else like lower percentage.

 

NFL should insist in next contract for every holdout percentage goes down - then players would be seen hurting other players.

Good luck with that. We'll have a lockout for sure. 

[SouthNYfan]

1 hour ago, wppete said:

Bell is all drama. stay away from him. This is what e is doing with his time now. Not playing football or training. 

 

 

 

So he should be training 24/7?

He isn't allowed to "play football" in regards to the NFL.

He cannot have contact with teams other than Steelers front office.

He can't be practicing with players.

He probably can't even go solicit and play arena or something.

He's a contractual employee of the NFL, specifically the Steelers, and is currently on strike from his employer, for lack of better words.

I guarantee there is verbage dictating what he can and cannot do while holding out.

So he went and had a vacation, guess what!?

That's not drama.

Everything else is drama, but it's not so caused by him.

 

9 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

I think Bell is a diva and kinda a douche, but I also understand his side of things- The franchise tag seems like the most unfair "agreement" in the free market world. Not sure how anyone ever thought that was a good idea.

 

So while I usually do not agree with holdouts (I didn't care For Mack's holdout), I definitely don't approve of the franchise tag. The Steelers were stupid in their whole handling of this and this, plus the implosion that is waiting just beneath the surface (which a win against a mediocre bucs team does not cure) are going to make this once great franchise look silly. 

 

 

 

Better to get a 3-4th round pick for him than just drop him. I would think that some team would throw something their way for him. 

 

Agreed with everything you said.

Edited September 26, 2018 by SouthNYfan

[jr1]

[IgotBILLStopay]

1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said:

James Harrison has been faking a head injury for a long time

It is not a fake:)

[Gordio]

18 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

I think Bell is a diva and kinda a douche, but I also understand his side of things- The franchise tag seems like the most unfair "agreement" in the free market world. Not sure how anyone ever thought that was a good idea.

 

So while I usually do not agree with holdouts (I didn't care For Mack's holdout), I definitely don't approve of the franchise tag. The Steelers were stupid in their whole handling of this and this, plus the implosion that is waiting just beneath the surface (which a win against a mediocre bucs team does not cure) are going to make this once great franchise look silly. 

 

 

 

Better to get a 3-4th round pick for him than just drop him. I would think that some team would throw something their way for him. 

 

 

This isn't even a holdout, he is not under contract, much different then what Mack was doing.  Franchise Tag maybe unfair but the union agreed to it.  Bell will report before week 10 & hold an auction next spring for his services.  

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said:

James Harrison has been faking a head injury for a long time

 

 

...birth defect....pretty noble guy.............

[whatdrought]

3 minutes ago, Gordio said:

 

 

This isn't even a holdout, he is not under contract, much different then what Mack was doing.  Franchise Tag maybe unfair but the union agreed to it.  Bell will report before week 10 & hold an auction next spring for his services.  

 

The franchise tag is a "my way or highway" option. I know the union agreed to it, and within reason, he should honor that, but the other side is that I understand him not enjoying being owned by an organization that doesn't want to pay him what he thinks he's worth (which is way too much if you ask me.). The reason I don't like the franchise tag is because the player himself has not signed a contract with that team. When a player signs a contract and holds out halfway through the contract, I think they're wrong- the franchise tag is being forced on him because of the Union. 

[Punching Bag]

Just now, whatdrought said:

 

The franchise tag is a "my way or highway" option. I know the union agreed to it, and within reason, he should honor that, but the other side is that I understand him not enjoying being owned by an organization that doesn't want to pay him what he thinks he's worth (which is way too much if you ask me.). The reason I don't like the franchise tag is because the player himself has not signed a contract with that team. When a player signs a contract and holds out halfway through the contract, I think they're wrong- the franchise tag is being forced on him because of the Union. 

 

The union really does not do a good job representing the players.  They should get union officials thrown out! 

 

Really there should be two unions - one for the players who cause trouble and one for the players that don't.  Most do not care about allowing players to smoke weed, do not get in trouble with law, etc.  Have two unions one with strict contracts, no endless appeals for violations, more time in camp, etc and one with current set of rules.  Naturally more money would be available in union with stricter rules but that is the compromise you pay if you are "a partner".  It also would have lower costs since it would not need to pay for hundreds and thousands of hours in legal fees.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Stupid is as Stupid does 

 

 

[Dablitzkrieg]

1 hour ago, whatdrought said:

I think Bell is a diva and kinda a douche, but I also understand his side of things- The franchise tag seems like the most unfair "agreement" in the free market world. Not sure how anyone ever thought that was a good idea.

 

So while I usually do not agree with holdouts (I didn't care For Mack's holdout), I definitely don't approve of the franchise tag. The Steelers were stupid in their whole handling of this and this, plus the implosion that is waiting just beneath the surface (which a win against a mediocre bucs team does not cure) are going to make this once great franchise look silly. 

 

 

 

Better to get a 3-4th round pick for him than just drop him. I would think that some team would throw something their way for him. 

He is one of the best rappers in the modern era!

[Rc2catch]

I am actually on Bells side in this, he has everything to lose by playing.

Hes a running back, very limited window to cash in. This is his one giant payday in his prime, if he goes out and pops a ACL or something he will lose tons of money. 

I’m not his biggest fan but in a league where everyone at an elite level gets paid top dollar he shouldn’t risk injury on the franchise tag, he deserves his payday 

[Malazan]

2 hours ago, whatdrought said:

 

The franchise tag is a "my way or highway" option. I know the union agreed to it, and within reason, he should honor that, but the other side is that I understand him not enjoying being owned by an organization that doesn't want to pay him what he thinks he's worth (which is way too much if you ask me.). The reason I don't like the franchise tag is because the player himself has not signed a contract with that team. When a player signs a contract and holds out halfway through the contract, I think they're wrong- the franchise tag is being forced on him because of the Union. 

 

He agreed to it. It was negotiated as part of the CBA. This wasn't "forced" on him out of nowhere. He had every opportunity to address this through the union and CBA negotiations.