Hebert19 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 That's what we should be looking at. They had cap issues. Terrible team and got their rookie qb that they didn't want to start. Then they were forced to. They had a stud on D (maybe Edmund's is ours) The second year they drafted well. Signed the likes of woods and others...and bam playoffs. Year 3 they had even more in caps space because of the cuts and trades they made in year 1 and this year they have the dream team roster. Year 1 is all about seeing if your franchise QB can learn and develop then you get him weapons with the next draft and FA. Benjamin and crew will be long gone next year. Just my half full on this situation. Have to blow up to get better long term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otagoyellow Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I'm with you, but man does it feel like I've heard this song before over the last 17+ years. I'm still tapping my toe to the beat though, so count me in along with the hopeful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 What chaps my arse is they didn’t accomplish this last year. Hate that we fluked into the playoffs and drafted lower. We could have used some of those picks this year and been further along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 The tune may be familiar but the melody is different. We never drafted a QB in the top ten before this year. One has to have faith they have the right guy in Allen, and that McD has his Kuechly in Edmunds. Then you go from there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 57 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: That's what we should be looking at. They had cap issues. Terrible team and got their rookie qb that they didn't want to start. Then they were forced to. They had a stud on D (maybe Edmund's is ours) The second year they drafted well. Signed the likes of woods and others...and bam playoffs. Year 3 they had even more in caps space because of the cuts and trades they made in year 1 and this year they have the dream team roster. Year 1 is all about seeing if your franchise QB can learn and develop then you get him weapons with the next draft and FA. Benjamin and crew will be long gone next year. Just my half full on this situation. Have to blow up to get better long term. At least it's good to read a positive thread I was ready to jump until i read this thanks friend !! ? We can only go up from here !! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eanyills Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) I don’t think our situation is like the Rams at all. Fisher was one of the most abysmal offense coaches of all time but that team had stacked talent at every position on defense. McVay and Snead come in inheriting good players and great depth all across the defense. So Snead has tons of defensive capital to work with and McVay gets to focus almost exclusively on the offense. I also don’t think McD is anywhere near McVay’s class. He is legitimately one of the best coaches in the league. Edited September 10, 2018 by eanyills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Hebert19 said: That's what we should be looking at. They had cap issues. Terrible team and got their rookie qb that they didn't want to start. Then they were forced to. They had a stud on D (maybe Edmund's is ours) The second year they drafted well. Signed the likes of woods and others...and bam playoffs. Year 3 they had even more in caps space because of the cuts and trades they made in year 1 and this year they have the dream team roster. Year 1 is all about seeing if your franchise QB can learn and develop then you get him weapons with the next draft and FA. Benjamin and crew will be long gone next year. Just my half full on this situation. Have to blow up to get better long term. I think the Rams are light years ahead of us on positional coaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said: I think the Rams are light years ahead of us on positional coaches How in the world could you possibly know that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Gurley was a top 5 pick, they acquired a top 10 pick wr, Goff threw 43 tds his last year in college, and they might have the best young offensive mind in the nfl. If anything we are in the Jeff Fisher era of the Rams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 OP is assuming that all draft picks and signings will work out. We all know what happens when you assume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 Ya. And would you waste a top 5 pick on a RB? And yes Goff had a better college career but Allen has more talent so who's to say he can't make the leap. Plus we have 10 more picks next year already without dumping salaries at deadline this year. We also are developing a ton of young players due to necessity right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Gurley was a top 5 pick, they acquired a top 10 pick wr, Goff threw 43 tds his last year in college, and they might have the best young offensive mind in the nfl. If anything we are in the Jeff Fisher era of the Rams. Jeff Fisher era??? No way we are winning 7 games 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Well we can hope. Agree with other poster it seems we are always expecting this team to finally start constantly moving forward but here we are again. Imo they need to find out what they have in Allen even behind this trash o line. Peterman should be done there is no reason to play him anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Hmmm, first NP=Rodgers, now the Bill=Rams. Sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, Mr. WEO said: Hmmm, first NP=Rodgers, now the Bill=Rams. Sweet! Wait, I thought NP = Brees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 The Rams have a savant for a coach. The Bills have a guy with Peterman fetish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, prissythecat said: Wait, I thought NP = Brees? And did you know that P Manning once tossed 6 int in one game? Ergo, NP=P Manning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, Mr. WEO said: And did you know that P Manning once tossed 6 int in one game? Ergo, NP=P Manning Ahh. Got it =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: The Rams have a savant for a coach. The Bills have a guy with Peterman fetish. He's not even an idiot savant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 hours ago, White Linen said: How in the world could you possibly know that? winning overpowers a lot of good questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Strong parallels to the 2007 Bills and 2013 Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DtownB2 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I agree a lot with this. Rams drafted Goff fist overall after going 7-9 in 2015. Even with TG3 and Keenum playing 9 games they were 4 and 5 when they handed it over to Goff. They went 0-7 to finish 4-12. How can you not see the similarities between these two teams? To be honest between Peterman and Allen I prefer they wait as long as possible until JA is ready to go in. Obviously I would like our defense to play better than they did on Sunday but its hard to imagine repeating what we did last year. I think the fan base just needs to accept reality that 2019 will yield the results they are looking for and 2018 is a lost year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 3 hours ago, otagoyellow said: I'm with you, but man does it feel like I've heard this song before over the last 17+ years. I'm still tapping my toe to the beat though, so count me in along with the hopeful. The difference is for the first time ever we have a top 10 qb to develop that was rated a first round pick and a top young MLB who is the qb of your defense. Other than that it’s totally the same though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said: What chaps my arse is they didn’t accomplish this last year. Hate that we fluked into the playoffs and drafted lower. We could have used some of those picks this year and been further along. Yes, and no. For the QB we drafted in 2018 (which turned out to be Josh Allen) I was very glad we got that 17-years-with-no-playoffs monkey off our backs. Bills-land is apocalyptic after yesterday's disaster (which so many (but apparently not everyone) could see coming - well, maybe not quite as bad as what happened - a mile away). Now imagine a newbie QB in place trying to break year-18, year-19 of a playoff drought. The Bills have ruined enough QBs in the past without reacting to fans screaming for the rookie QB's head to break a playoff drought that started when the kid was in kindergarten. On the other hand, a higher draft pick would have been nice. Edited September 10, 2018 by Buffalo_Gal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 53 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Ya. And would you waste a top 5 pick on a RB? And yes Goff had a better college career but Allen has more talent so who's to say he can't make the leap. Plus we have 10 more picks next year already without dumping salaries at deadline this year. We also are developing a ton of young players due to necessity right now. Can we stop with the more talent thing? Jamarcus Russell had more talent than Tom Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 3 hours ago, eanyills said: I don’t think our situation is like the Rams at all. Fisher was one of the most abysmal offense coaches of all time but that team had stacked talent at every position on defense. McVay and Snead come in inheriting good players and great depth all across the defense. So Snead has tons of defensive capital to work with and McVay gets to focus almost exclusively on the offense. I also don’t think McD is anywhere near McVay’s class. He is legitimately one of the best coaches in the league. McVay has a ways to go to prove he is capable of being a consistently excellent HC..........but right from the start he was an ABSOLUTE difference maker on Sundays. McD is more about the preparation(technique, conditioning etc..) than the actual gameday work........he's a clapping observer on the sideline on Sundays. So I agree with you that really is a major point of separation between he and McVay. McDermott's head coaching career is almost entirely in the hands of Daboll and Allen now...........McVay has control of his own destiny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeby Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Here's more positive news (of sorts) - going roughly 8-8 year after year sure got us no place fast and we shouldn't need worry about that happening this year. ;o) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 4 hours ago, White Linen said: How in the world could you possibly know that? Take our Oline coach for one, he had our line as a top one in the league, we fired him and now he has the Rams producing. Just look at Gurley with and without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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