CountDorkula Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: ESPN=the worst major sports network. A bunch of morons. Of course, unless they talk good about the Bills and then we all say how smart that one guy is at ESPN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 They know nothing and always pick us to be bad. They have done it for like 18 straight years and never get it right. Wait, we made the playoffs only once during that time? Ummmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 That is fine....just stand by your rankings when the bills do better 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: That is fine....just stand by your rankings when the bills do better when the Bills break into the top 20 we can celebrate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) The defense doesn't look great, but I don't know about last in the league Edited September 5, 2018 by Domdab99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 35 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: Of course, unless they talk good about the Bills and then we all say how smart that one guy is at ESPN. that guy would be fired immediately! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 i've never seen us ranked this low. are we all wearing rose-tinted glasses and missing how bad this team really is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 44 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: It's not "lazy journalism." All these people can do is analyze past metrics and make speculations about the future, which is very hard to do. Further, there is always a lot of ups and downs in the league from 1 year to the next. After 3 or 4 weeks, we'll know who the good teams are, who the bad teams are, who's greatly improved, who's a lot worse, etc. And then it will be much easier to make rankings for 2018. This was an ESPN ranking, not 538. Not all of sports reporting is based on metrics, and I doubt these rankings are. Based on past metrics, I don't think we would come out 32 for defense. These are mostly written for provocation and in any case I walked right into it. We'll see how the season goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Bills Fan Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I get the offense, but the D ranking is silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) On paper it's easy to see how someone would say this. Also, given that we have young players that are learning it is quite clear that big plays are going to happen against the defense. For instance, suppose Edmunds takes off and plays well. You have to hope Milano does too. To me, in his second year, he's been more hesitant and lost at times than Edmunds. Then there are issues at CB opposite White that might limit what Frasier can do schematically. Offensively, it's all about the line and I think this is one of the worse one in the league. You are not going very far with terrible offensive line play I don't care who you are. Edited September 4, 2018 by NewEraBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach55 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 All these preseason rankings are great! Pushing the spreads out for us all to make more money when they make the playoffs. Get your bets on now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg1029 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) Bills: Projected wins: 6.3 (Ranked 32) Jets: Projected wins: 6 (Ranked 31) Browns: Projected wins: 6 (Ranked 30) So the Bills have more projected wins but they aren't better than the Jets despite playing more or less the same schedule? What? I mean, I don't think we are going to be good... but ranked 32nd overall is kind of surprising. Edited September 4, 2018 by berg1029 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, SF Bills Fan said: I get the offense, but the D ranking is silly The Bills Defesne last year was: 26th in YGP 20th in yards per play 30th in 1st down per game 18th in 3rd down % 18th in Pts per game. The defense may be worse without getting as many turnovers as they did last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 2 questions: 1. Does anyone think that ESPN has ever once ranked an NHL, NBA, MLB, or NFL team that made the playoffs the previous year as last overall when making predictions the following year? The only one I can think of as a possibility is the Florida Marlins a while back when they had an all out purge. We lost Preston Brown, Eric Wood and Tyrod Taylor. This is just ridiculous and based on nothing. 2. If last year's roster played for another franchise, let's call it the Titans for argument's sake, had identical 2017 results and made identical offseason moves to us, would they get moved to 32 by ESPN? That is highly doubtful to me. Their rankings are uniform dependent. It's the Bills so 32. Titans, move them to 22. Steelers, they'd be ranked 8. Jets? 14. Cards? 26. Pats? Next 9 Super Bowls are in the bag. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, berg1029 said: Bills: Projected wins: 6.3 (Ranked 32) Jets: Projected wins: 6 (Ranked 31) Browns: Projected wins: 6 (Ranked 30) So the Bills have more projected wins but they aren't better than the Jets despite playing more or less the same schedule? What? I mean, I don't think we are going to be good... but ranked 32nd overall is kind of surprising. That's the part I don't get. If you are the worse team in the league, you're not going to win 6 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: The Bills Defesne last year was: 26th in YGP 20th in yards per play 30th in 1st down per game 18th in 3rd down % 18th in Pts per game. The defense may be worse without getting as many turnovers as they did last year Losing Preston Brown for Edmunds has moved us down past roughly one third of the league aggregate? 7 minutes ago, berg1029 said: Bills: Projected wins: 6.3 (Ranked 32) Jets: Projected wins: 6 (Ranked 31) Browns: Projected wins: 6 (Ranked 30) So the Bills have more projected wins but they aren't better than the Jets despite playing more or less the same schedule? What? I mean, I don't think we are going to be good... but ranked 32nd overall is kind of surprising. I find it interesting that they project the worst records to be 6-10. Are the best 10-6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg1029 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, NewEraBills said: That's the part I don't get. If you are the worse team in the league, you're not going to win 6 games. I've taken it as just meaning that the parity in the league is better than usual. Looking at the list of teams, it's hard to find the equivalent of the Browns from last year. There are no clear cut losers this year Edited September 4, 2018 by berg1029 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, NewEraBills said: That's the part I don't get. If you are the worse team in the league, you're not going to win 6 games. special teams are a hidden variable, Bills haven't bothered with ST for a long time now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, row_33 said: special teams are a hidden variable, Bills haven't bothered with ST for a long time now McD loves special teams. He kept at least three guys just for special teams that aren't kickers or holders, Holmes, Jones and Lacey, who weren't needed at their regular positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Somehow, a playoff team from last year, losing their QB who led a feeble passing game...is now worse than 0-16 Cleveland? Maybe it's the O-line mess that has as much to do with that ranking as anything. The QB is a big ?? but if they can limit turnovers it's not going to be a complete disaster. I guess the pundits don't think Peterman or Allen can play at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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