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Fred Jackson comes to mind. 

Jason Peters, too. That's an All Pro and a franchise running back. If I get someone like that every 10-15 years it's worth having a practice squad.  

 

Plus occasional serviceable guys, like a George Wilson.  

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WTF?

 

 

Mike Love - Beach Boy (like I said earlier, sometimes they just fall to me)

Gerhard deBeer - Blood Diamond (with a name like deBeer, gotta get "diamond" in there)

Keith Ford - Gerald R (chosen over Model T, but agree, not one of my better monikers, feel free to do better)

 

Fred Jackson comes to mind. 


I searched and could not find that Fred was ever on the practice squad.  Anybody got a 2005 or 2006 Bills media guide?

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I guess they are not adding a practice squad QB.

 

I thought with Allen as the backup, they might want him preparing to step in for the starter, just in case. 

But they must want him getting all the scout team reps. 

 

I get their thinking. All the reps will definitely do him good. Where as if he were strictly the backup he wouldn’t get nearly as many practice reps. 

 

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I guess they are not adding a practice squad QB.

 

I thought with Allen as the backup, they might want him preparing to step in for the starter, just in case. 

But they must want him getting all the scout team reps. 

 

I get their thinking. All the reps will definitely do him good. Where as if he were strictly the backup he wouldn’t get nearly as many practice reps. 

That's pretty much what McDermott said in this morning's presser.  He said Allen will run the scout team as well as get developmental reps in other parts of the practice.  I agree with you that this could be very good for him.

 

 

 

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Then they'll go out and acquire someone from a practice squad or a sign a street free agent.  The pro personnel department knows what's out there. 

And that guy won’t know the offense.  If we had a better OL, I could get on board with not having a qb on the ps.  Week 2, McCarron couldn’t finish the game.  Week 3 Allen got knocked out,.  Week 4 McCarron was getting smashed.  Ravens, Chargers, Vikings.  I’ll go on record as saying Peterman (or Allen if Peterman gets yanked) won’t make it through those 3 games without having to leave due to injury.   It’s going to a rough go up front unless Daboll can pull a rabbit out of a hat.

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Help my memory. Please remind me of any PS player that has ever done anything in the NFL? Bills? I can recall a few WR call ups when the Bills lost their top 4 or 5 wrs to injury.  

 

Fred Jackson was on the Bills practice squad.

 

Have to say I'm surprised Ford made it - he was a disappointment by all accounts I heard - hopefully he develops

Me too.  Poor vision and slow as a snail.

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We really should have a qb on the PS,  have a feeling we’re going to have a carousel going on behind this OL.  I’ll give Peterman 3 weeks before he’s hurt.

 

To be eligible for PS you can't have more than 2 years in league.  Doubt a QB that green would do any good.  He'd be inactive every game, so even if both QB's got hurt in same game, you couldn't use him anyway.

 

If a QB were to get hurt, better option is to sign a vet who's been around and maybe someone who has played in same offense.  And most of these guys if been around awhile, have played in every offense out there at some point. 

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Then they'll go out and acquire someone from a practice squad or a sign a street free agent.  The pro personnel department knows what's out there. 

One of the many reasons to start Allen is because there is not a lot of practice time during the week at all because of the rules, and very little time to do anything except prepare your starters for the next game. The Bills made it a point to have Allen on Daboll's hip during a lot of training camp but there just isn't time to give him any reps or real practice. If he is the starter he gets all the practice time, too. 

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One of the many reasons to start Allen is because there is not a lot of practice time during the week at all because of the rules, and very little time to do anything except prepare your starters for the next game. The Bills made it a point to have Allen on Daboll's hip during a lot of training camp but there just isn't time to give him any reps or real practice. If he is the starter he gets all the practice time, too. 

 

They are balancing trying to win with getting him ready as soon as possible.  Interesting to follow this as the season moves forward. 

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And that guy won’t know the offense.  If we had a better OL, I could get on board with not having a qb on the ps.  Week 2, McCarron couldn’t finish the game.  Week 3 Allen got knocked out,.  Week 4 McCarron was getting smashed.  Ravens, Chargers, Vikings.  I’ll go on record as saying Peterman (or Allen if Peterman gets yanked) won’t make it through those 3 games without having to leave due to injury.   It’s going to a rough go up front unless Daboll can pull a rabbit out of a hat.

 

If the OL is going to get NP and JA knocked out in the first few games, what's the difference if AJM is on the roster or not?

Wouldn't he get knocked out in a week or two?

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And that guy won’t know the offense.  If we had a better OL, I could get on board with not having a qb on the ps.  Week 2, McCarron couldn’t finish the game.  Week 3 Allen got knocked out,.  Week 4 McCarron was getting smashed.  Ravens, Chargers, Vikings.  I’ll go on record as saying Peterman (or Allen if Peterman gets yanked) won’t make it through those 3 games without having to leave due to injury.   It’s going to a rough go up front unless Daboll can pull a rabbit out of a hat.

If the Bills end up starting their 3rd QB, the season is lost anyway. 

 

Having a a practice squad caliber QB who knows the offense isn’t going to save them if both Nate and Josh go down. 

 

Might as well prioritize Allen’s development and getting him as many reps as possible, over having a crappy QB on the practice squad. 

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If the Bills end up starting their 3rd QB, the season is lost anyway. 

 

Having a a practice squad caliber QB who knows the offense isn’t going to save them if both Nate and Josh go down. 

 

Might as well prioritize Allen’s development and getting him as many reps as possible, over having a crappy QB on the practice squad. 

You’re assuming that the QB is out for extended periods of time.  Peterman is out for awhile and Allen comes in gets smashed and has to miss 1 or 2 weeks I wouldn’t consider that season over.  The likelihood of winning isn’t very good with a PS guy, but it sure beats signing a guy on Monday and starting him on Sunday. He won’t know anything.  

 

Like I said before, if our OL was better maybe I wouldn’t put a thought into a ps QB, but I currently have zero faith in these guys staying healthy game to game.  If they get hurt and are out for the year, yes, the season is over.  If they only miss a game or 2, you never know what might happen.  I believe we can beat the Jets and fins with a PS QB if Daboll knows what he’s doing.

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If the OL is going to get NP and JA knocked out in the first few games, what's the difference if AJM is on the roster or not?

Wouldn't he get knocked out in a week or two?

AJM?

 

any qb on the practice squad that can learn the playbook.  He doesn’t even have to take reps.  Just pick up a playbook, learn and watch.  We’re one Ducasse whiff from only having 1 QB.  He whiffs often.  As does Miller.  As does Mills.  Good chance Groy will.  

 

 

 

To be eligible for PS you can't have more than 2 years in league.  Doubt a QB that green would do any good.  He'd be inactive every game, so even if both QB's got hurt in same game, you couldn't use him anyway.

 

If a QB were to get hurt, better option is to sign a vet who's been around and maybe someone who has played in same offense.  And most of these guys if been around awhile, have played in every offense out there at some point. 

Didn’t think about it that way.  Well said.  Didn’t know PS players could only have less than 2 years in the league 

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AJM?

 

any qb on the practice squad that can learn the playbook.  He doesn’t even have to take reps.  Just pick up a playbook, learn and watch.  We’re one Ducasse whiff from only having 1 QB.  He whiffs often.  As does Miller.  As does Mills.  Good chance Groy will.  

 

Didn’t think about it that way.  Well said.  Didn’t know PS players could only have less than 2 years in the league 

 

AJM (for those still talking about trading him) or a PS guy.

I would say if they had someone in mind to put on the PS at QB it's OK.

My main point was about having 2 QBs knocked out, the season is pretty much toast.

Especially if you cant fix the main problem which is the OL.

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AJM (for those still talking about trading him) or a PS guy.

I would say if they had someone in mind to put on the PS at QB it's OK.

My main point was about having 2 QBs knocked out, the season is pretty much toast.

Especially if you cant fix the main problem which is the OL.

 

I hear ya.  Makes sense if Sweet Nate Pete miss extended periods of tone.  The season will be over.  I just think that covering our bases if we need someone else to start 1-2 games vs the jets/fins/colts/bears makes sense as well.  

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You’re assuming that the QB is out for extended periods of time.  Peterman is out for awhile and Allen comes in gets smashed and has to miss 1 or 2 weeks I wouldn’t consider that season over.  The likelihood of winning isn’t very good with a PS guy, but it sure beats signing a guy on Monday and starting him on Sunday. He won’t know anything.  

 

Like I said before, if our OL was better maybe I wouldn’t put a thought into a ps QB, but I currently have zero faith in these guys staying healthy game to game.  If they get hurt and are out for the year, yes, the season is over.  If they only miss a game or 2, you never know what might happen.  I believe we can beat the Jets and fins with a PS QB if Daboll knows what he’s doing.

McDermott already said that Logan Thomas would be QB#3 in an emergency situation. He knows the offense better than most, according to reports. They said many times when a guy has a question on Daboll’s offense, they go to Thomas. 

 

Id rather go with Thomas as the #3 in order to get Allen more reps, as opposed to sacrificing tons of reps for Josh Allen in favor of a different #3 QB who may not be any better than Logan Thomas in a pinch anyway.

 

 

If they were going to keep 3 QBs, they should have just kept AJ, which is personally what I thought would happen. I thought AJ would be #2 and Allen #3 in order to give Allen all the practice squad reps. 

Instead they decided to only keep 2 QBs and use Thomas in an emergency, in order to still give Allen all the practice squad reps. I am good with that, too. 

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To be eligible for PS you can't have more than 2 years in league.  Doubt a QB that green would do any good.  He'd be inactive every game, so even if both QB's got hurt in same game, you couldn't use him anyway.

 

If a QB were to get hurt, better option is to sign a vet who's been around and maybe someone who has played in same offense.  And most of these guys if been around awhile, have played in every offense out there at some point. 

I think it's more than two accrued seasons for up to three players. So a guy who wasn't activated the first couple years then played the next couple on active roster as a backup could be. I'm not positive but think that's how new rules work. Didn't used to be that way. 

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McDermott already said that Logan Thomas would be QB#3 in an emergency situation. He knows the offense better than most, according to reports. They said many times when a guy has a question on Daboll’s offense, they go to Thomas. 

 

Id rather go with Thomas as the #3 in order to get Allen more reps, as opposed to sacrificing tons of reps for Josh Allen in favor of a different #3 QB who may not be any better than Logan Thomas in a pinch anyway.

 

 

If they were going to keep 3 QBs, they should have just kept AJ, which is personally what I thought would happen. I thought AJ would be #2 and Allen #3 in order to give Allen all the practice squad reps. 

Instead they decided to only keep 2 QBs and use Thomas in an emergency, in order to still give Allen all the practice squad reps. I am good with that, too. 

Thomas is the emergency QB.  They would never start him.  Ever.  If peterman is out for 8 weeks and Allen has to miss a game or 2, Thomas isn’t going to start.  He’d only play if the 1 and 2 QBs get knocked out of the game.  If peterman gets knocked out for a month, Allen will be the 1 the following week and someone else will be the 2.  It won’t be thomas.  I hope not at least.  He’s terrible 

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43 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

 

Cool, Wikipedia doesn't show him on the PS.  Let's hope they get this done.

1 hour ago, bobblehead said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/74726098

 

heres a list from  2015 of PS players who succeeded 

 

Joique Bell, another one we let slip away.... :ph34r:

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16 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Thomas is the emergency QB.  They would never start him.  Ever.  If peterman is out for 8 weeks and Allen has to miss a game or 2, Thomas isn’t going to start.  He’d only play if the 1 and 2 QBs get knocked out of the game.  If peterman gets knocked out for a month, Allen will be the 1 the following week and someone else will be the 2.  It won’t be thomas.  I hope not at least.  He’s terrible 

 

I don’t know, I guess you and I just have different views on the level of play you would get from a practice squad QB. I think the chances are that it wouldn’t be that significantly better than the play you’d get from Thomas in an emergency situation.

 

 

I would expect that if Peterman got knocked out for a month, or got any type of injury that was considered week-to-week (as opposed to a small day to day type injury), that the Bills would immediately try to go out and get someone with some experience, that way it wouldn’t ever get to the point of having to start their practice squad QB in a regular season game. 

 

I think if either QB is hurt for any length of time, the Bills will look for a vet. 

 

Plus, the Bills are not in a position where they have an established starter and an established backup and they can stick someone on the practice squad to develop.

Their circumstance is different this season. 

 

 

They are trying to get their backup as many reps as possible, while also still having him active for game days so he can learn what the NFL is like. 

 

 

 

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