Domdab99 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) Obviously, Leaf is going to be the ? Edited August 19, 2018 by Domdab99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Domdab99 said: Obviously, Leaf is going to be the ? I'm curious as to what your angle is, here. Are you saying that we shouldn't be excited about the good things we've seen from Josh Allen? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: Obviously, Leaf is going to be the ? Congrats, you have the most worthless post of the day! 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Nothing to see here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 You guys really can’t take a joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 My attempt to be comical bombs... you guys cant take a joke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: You guys really can’t take a joke? It’s the delivery, bro. Also you are not regarded as being “funny.” Stay with what you know. Respect... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Good post. It shows that the preseason really doesn’t mean a thing. It also shows that athletic ability is not enough. Many things can derail a career. Bills fans should be excited about what they’ve seen out of Josh Allen so far, but shouldn’t get ahead of ourselves. We’re still on the first page of chapter one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Domdab99 said: You guys really can’t take a joke? truth is that theres just been tons of these negative nancy type posts on this forum this offseason, regardless if the post was meant to be a joke or not. I think most of us, at least for me, have just grown tired of the debbie downer glass half full attitude towards our team's potential. Sure a lot of that has to do with enduring 17 years of the drought. But we all long for the days when we all share in the optimism instead of the familiar pessimistic tones of the past. Thats not to say we can't be critical or realistic about where our teams at, or call something for what it is. But i think we all know that Allen could turn out to be a bust. We already know its possible from living thru EJ Manuel or JP Losman or any of the other countless QB's we've hitched our hopes onto, only to watch them all fail. We get ur joke, but that jokes just not funny anymore haha. Perhaps some of us just have offseason board fatigue & can't wait for the season to begin lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Perfectly fine to point out pre-season doesn't equate to anything. Allen has yet to even play with most of the starters or go against a starting defense. That said there is nothing in this kid's story that equates to the worst or second worst NFL draft bust of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I mean, he does have a point ??♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Process Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Leaf won the preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) I got the point immediately. Pre season always was and always is pre season. It means nothing and the fortunes of teams and players, especially QBs, can change quickly during the grind of a real season. Not a knock on Allen or any of the of the QBs drafted in this class. What I have seen so far is that we look weak at OL and LB. we all knew WR was thin going into it. At QB wish the Vet brought in to replace Tyrod was experienced. It is what it is. Edited August 19, 2018 by Bob in STL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 5 hours ago, Dadonkadonk said: Perfectly fine to point out pre-season doesn't equate to anything. Allen has yet to even play with most of the starters or go against a starting defense. That said there is nothing in this kid's story that equates to the worst or second worst NFL draft bust of all time. I think most people, no, every single person realizes that preseason doesn’t mean much. Pointing that out on a message board is actually pointless. Just because use it’s preseason doesn’t mean you can’t be encouraged by what you see, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 That was too bad. That Manning kid seemed to have such potential... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 7 hours ago, brianthomas said: truth is that theres just been tons of these negative nancy type posts on this forum this offseason, regardless if the post was meant to be a joke or not. I think most of us, at least for me, have just grown tired of the debbie downer glass half full attitude towards our team's potential. Sure a lot of that has to do with enduring 17 years of the drought. But we all long for the days when we all share in the optimism instead of the familiar pessimistic tones of the past. Thats not to say we can't be critical or realistic about where our teams at, or call something for what it is. But i think we all know that Allen could turn out to be a bust. We already know its possible from living thru EJ Manuel or JP Losman or any of the other countless QB's we've hitched our hopes onto, only to watch them all fail. We get ur joke, but that jokes just not funny anymore haha. Perhaps some of us just have offseason board fatigue & can't wait for the season to begin lol. On the plus side, Allen’s success has silenced the Rosen crowd - for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 9 hours ago, Domdab99 said: You guys really can’t take a joke? 9 hours ago, BillsFan17 said: My attempt to be comical bombs... you guys cant take a joke... So, you are the same person? Whether you you are or are not. I’d recommend the @Johnny Hammersticks Comedy One Can Know School. For only 5(!) easy payments of $39.99 or a one time payment of $225.00 you will receive the very best instruction on: Timing Delivery Knowing your audience Finding a straight man Thickening your skin Each lesson will be a deep dive into one of the above topics. When you complete the Hammersticks COCKS program you will be an expert in all things comedy and you will receive Hammerstick’s personal guarantee that you will never need to use the sarcasm tag during online conversations. Don’t wait, this exciting offer won’t last forever! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 So many other variables to consider, but the most important distinction between Allen and Leaf is work ethic. Allen has it; Leaf didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 9 hours ago, BillsFan17 said: My attempt to be comical bombs... you guys cant take a joke... Color me confused ...... I thought this was Domdab99's attempt to be comical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bob in STL said: I got the point immediately. Pre season always was and always is pre season. It means nothing and the fortunes of teams and players, especially QBs, can change quickly during the grind of a real season. Not a knock on Allen or any of the of the QBs drafted in this class. What I have seen so far is that we look weak at OL and LB. we all knew WR was thin going into it. At QB wish the Vet brought in to replace Tyrod was experienced. It is what it is. Ah, the pre-season paradox: everything we see that is bad in pre-season is meaningful, all we see that is good in pre-season is meaningless. (Admittedly, it can also manifest itself in the other direction ) Edited August 19, 2018 by thurst44 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, Gugny said: Color me confused ...... I thought this was Domdab99's attempt to be comical. You think you’re confused? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Domdab99 said: You guys really can’t take a joke? The Cleveland Browns went undefeated! Hue Jackson's squad exited the preseason 4-0 (and then oh fer 16) after their 25-0 beat down of the Chicago Bears Thursday night. The Browns celebrated -- "hooting and hollering" in the locker room as beat writer Mary Kay Cabot put it -- becoming the first Cleveland squad to pull off the hollow feat since 1986. "A year ago we were 0-4, so these guys came back with a different mentality,'' said Jackson said. "We understand it's just the preseason, but you've got to start someplace. They accomplished something that hadn't been done in 31 years, which is to be 4-0 and that's a credit to them.'' Save the comparisons to the 2008 Detroit Lions who went 4-0 in the preseason then 0-16 when it counted. This Browns team is leaps and bounds better than that depressing squad. Jackson is correct that the Browns needed to start someplace. In his first year, they nearly went winless, eking out one win in the regular season. Couple that with the preseason, and Cleveland went 1-19 in 2016. Edited August 19, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 i think that we all have a pretty good understanding of what preseason is. but i also think that we are all getting a bit excited because the quarterback we drafted is showing not just that incredible physical ability, but is also showing an understanding for the game, touch, timing, command of the huddle, respect from his teammates, a noticeable improvement on things we all ha questions about. he does not look lost, he does not look confused, he does not look timid...he looks like a damn quarterback! preseason or not, this is absolutely grounds for optimism and encouragement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I prefer "NFL Postseason: Manning Outduels Grossman" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I prefer "NFL Postseason: Manning Outduels Grossman" ...should we bring 'em in?...just askin'.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, dubs said: I think most people, no, every single person realizes that preseason doesn’t mean much. Pointing that out on a message board is actually pointless. Just because use it’s preseason doesn’t mean you can’t be encouraged by what you see, however. If everyone realizes it, thenwe wouldn't see so many rush to make judgments when there Is a bad play or plays. Edmunds is a good case from this game. Proehl was written off as an NFL Caliber player after game one. The latter is a perfect case for people making judgments on what we only get to see in the preseason games, as Joe B has him making the 53 based in what he's also doing in practices. What Allen has done in the games is encouraging, but it's only one piece to evaluating him and everyone else. ok, just realized the Joe B 53 I referenced was fromJune, so I'll temper the Proehl comment and note that he did much better in game 2. Edited August 19, 2018 by TPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...should we bring 'em in?...just askin'.............. both... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 The Bills of the Levy era were typically a 1-3 preseason team. They looked at players, they kept things simple. They were almost always a strong starting team when the season started. I just dont don’t read into preseason wins and losses. It is nice to see Allen looking good, definitely further along than many pundits predicted. Let’s keep in mind that facing a starting defense, using their full bag of tricks for a full 60 minutes will be a totally new challenge. Especially tough for a rookie qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 You don't watch preseason games for results. You watch for execution. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 hour ago, swnybillsfan said: i think that we all have a pretty good understanding of what preseason is. but i also think that we are all getting a bit excited because the quarterback we drafted is showing not just that incredible physical ability, but is also showing an understanding for the game, touch, timing, command of the huddle, respect from his teammates, a noticeable improvement on things we all ha questions about. he does not look lost, he does not look confused, he does not look timid...he looks like a damn quarterback! preseason or not, this is absolutely grounds for optimism and encouragement. This is on target. I wasn't a fan of the pick but albeit it's the preseason, I'm encouraged by what I see. He's going to have some fails when he finally faces a sophisticated defensive scheme and game plan, but he's calm in the pocket, mobile and keeps his eyes downfield. Be has worked on his footwork since college and that will help his accuracy. I'd like to see him start 6 or 7 games into the season once we know what the OL can and can't do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: You don't watch preseason games for results. You watch for execution. i heard it once said " the games don't count, but they matter". that seems about right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 12 hours ago, Domdab99 said: You guys really can’t take a joke? Most folks 'round here are kool-aid drinking homers, who view this forum as a booster club and opportunity to say "go Bills" and nothing more. They ain't gonna take too kindly to this type of observation, regardless of whatever merit it may have! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Fadingpain said: Most folks 'round here are kool-aid drinking homers, who view this forum as a booster club and opportunity to say "go Bills" and nothing more. They ain't gonna take too kindly to this type of observation, regardless of whatever merit it may have! ..MOST?.....kind of rarified air on that high horse with that labeling "MOST" crap...."there are folks...." is much better and I'm NOT part of that group....besides, kool aid gives me a Depends rash....after 56 years, just call 'em as I see 'em, whether right, wrong, indifferent, in the majority or minority...could care less.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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