Bangarang Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 No need to keep 3 QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 You know what they say....if you have two QB’s you really don’t really have any. If you have THREE QB’s, do you have less than any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 There is only 1 cut down date (Sep 1) again this year. A ton of QB's will be released at once and I don't see many teams salivating over Peterman. He can clear waivers and be signed to PS if Beane and McDermott want to. I think it comes down to the 53rd player and whether THAT guy would clear waivers or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Heres what I think. Let me know what you think. If McCaron/Peterman starts, I think we keep all 3. If Allen starts, I would think Peterman is a goner. McCaron would be your vet back up. I don’t think the Bills want another scenario like in 2013 when we just had Manuel and Tuel to start the season....2 young and inexperienced QB’s. I think that’s fair. I think that the Bills likely keep 3 this year. Some will depend on the separation at places like WR though. Say Phillips and Foster are battling for the last spot do they offer more value than Nate? That’s the kind of decision that they will have to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 If we can carry a kicker, punter and a kick off specialist we can easily remove the kick off specialist and add a 3rd QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 If he's good keep him. But don't waste a spot JUST to keep three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 3 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: There is only 1 cut down date (Sep 1) again this year. A ton of QB's will be released at once and I don't see many teams salivating over Peterman. He can clear waivers and be signed to PS if Beane and McDermott want to. I think it comes down to the 53rd player and whether THAT guy would clear waivers or not. How can that be? He played great in the snow game last season and is now tearing it up with his improved velocity at Camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 21 hours ago, Fadingpain said: Yeah but "sitting and learning" is a myth. No QB develops while "sitting and learning". He will learn by doing. This you'll have to support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Been saying I think they end up only keep 2 on the 53 and possibly getting Peterman to the PS. Does anyone think if they get down to their 3rd QB the Bills can't go dumpster diving and find someone serviceable? Hell the Bills were able to trade Chris White for Thad Lewis on the eve of the 2013 season, drop him and stash him on the PS, and he came in and went 2-3, which for a 3rd QB, is not bad. Is it important to the have 3 QBs in the QB room? Sure but I don't think you need to have all 3 on the active roster. The only reason the Bills had 3 last year is the 3rd QB had a big role on ST. I think it's entirely possible to get Peterman onto the PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Let me ask it another way. Is it more likely that Peterman is cut or starting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Less than half of the NFL teams carried more than 2 QBs last year. are those numbers active 53 AND PS?....... 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: Let me ask it another way. Is it more likely that Peterman is cut or starting? ...think he's PS eligible.....IF so, a poacher would have to add him to their active 53.....which may be a bit far fetched unless injury dire straits dictated otherwise.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: Let me ask it another way. Is it more likely that Peterman is cut or starting? It's an interesting question. As a "vet" what does he actually bring? He has 1 year in the league and is learning a brand new offense, just like the other 2 guys. So he doesn't really bring experience with the system and he doesn't bring years of experience and prep that McCarron does. Once the season starts, if he were the #2 and Allen the #3, he'd also be taking the limited amount of practice reps away from Allen, where Allen could be learning. I'd say he's more likely to be cut than starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: are those numbers active 53 AND PS?....... ...think he's PS eligible.....IF so, a poacher would have to add him to their active 53.....which may be a bit far fetched unless injury dire straits dictated otherwise.... That is just active roster. He is Ps eligible too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: That is just active roster. He is Ps eligible too. ...thank you for clarification......2 active and 1 PS makes sense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: If we can carry a kicker, punter and a kick off specialist we can easily remove the kick off specialist and add a 3rd QB. what kickoff specialist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I thought we carried a FG Kicker, Punter and a guy who just did kick offs for a few years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 22 hours ago, Bob in NoCal said: I think you're wrong. But then again, you're pretty new around here. Shirley ewe jest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 If you just carry two QBs on the 53 man roster, you have to have a QB on the PS just so you have a person you can have on the active roster inside a week's notice who knows your playbood and offense. I believe Peterman has PS eligibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 On 8/2/2018 at 4:40 PM, Pete said: I think it is idiotic to keep less than 3 QBs on a roster. It's the most important position. What happens if a QB gets hurt? Do you start second string and find a good QB midseason on the waiver wire? I think that depends on how the QB’s develop. If Peterman continues to look like he did in San Diego, then yes, a waiver wire QB wouldn’t look like a terrible option if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 16 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I thought we carried a FG Kicker, Punter and a guy who just did kick offs for a few years? Previous seasons but not last season...Hauschka only K last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 My guess, if we do carry 3 QBs, Pickpeterman won’t be one of them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: My guess, if we do carry 3 QBs, Pickpeterman won’t be one of them.. ...after last night, Manziel will probably be available.....only FOUR picks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...after last night, Manziel will probably be available.....only FOUR picks.... #Upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: #Upgrade ...regurgitation comes to mind.....sorry have to run to the Kohler.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 On 8/2/2018 at 8:28 PM, DefenseWins said: see Aaron Rogers... Carson Palmer too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 On 8/2/2018 at 4:49 PM, DefenseWins said: You keep all three. McCarron starts, Allen sits and learns, Peterman is there in case of emergency/injury... Peterman's contract is negligible... Agreed. Im convinced our run game will still be very good and that the Oline will be a pleasant surprise in that regard. We'll have a similar offensive production as last year, with Allen in the bench and the Oline learning to pass protect a little better each week. My prediction is that week 8 game against the Bears here in Buffalo will be Allens first crack as a starter, unless we have the good fortune to have McCarron playing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 If Josh Allen is the starter I believe they will only carry 2, if he's not they'll carry 3, just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 McCarron broken collarbone. This is why you always keep 3 QBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Just now, Pete said: McCarron broken collarbone. This is why you always keep 3 QBs Most teams do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Most teams do not. most teams are stupid IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Most teams do not. Most teams that keep 2 have at least 1 veteran with a bunch of NFL starts. We need to sign a 3rd QB for the rest of preseason & if he is a veteran who looks good, McCarron goes on IR & if the 3rd preseason QB is just a body, either IR McCarron with designation to return later or keep him active if the injury is healing quickly & just inactivate him on gamedays early in the season. Any way you play it the Bills need 3 QBs since there is no seasoned veteran on the roster. BTW in 2000 NE had 4 QBs on the roster because their 6th rounder, a raw rookie named Tom Brady showed enough that they didn't want to lose him, so veteran Drew Bledsoe had 3 backups that year. Most would have called their coach nuts for having 4 QBs, instead they call him a genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Albany,n.y. said: Most teams that keep 2 have at least 1 veteran with a bunch of NFL starts. We need to sign a 3rd QB for the rest of preseason & if he is a veteran who looks good, McCarron goes on IR & if the 3rd preseason QB is just a body, either IR McCarron with designation to return later or keep him active if the injury is healing quickly & just inactivate him on gamedays early in the season. Any way you play it the Bills need 3 QBs since there is no seasoned veteran on the roster. BTW in 2000 NE had 4 QBs on the roster because their 6th rounder, a raw rookie named Tom Brady showed enough that they didn't want to lose him, so veteran Drew Bledsoe had 3 backups that year. Most would have called their coach nuts for having 4 QBs, instead they call him a genius. Rules were different then. You could still keep the third QB dressed and not count on the active game roster, which pretty much every team did then. Now there is no real reason to. You're not going to dress three on game day. So one is a wasted roster spot. If a QB gets hurt you bring up your PS guy or sign a backup off another team's roster. The only time you would keep three is if you're stupid like the Jets and sign McCown for 10m, sign Bridgewater, who is your best QB for this year, and then draft Darnold. But I imagine the Jets are going to trade Bridgewater and only keep two as soon as a team has a serious injury to their starter and is desperate for a decent alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Take a look at the QB league wide depth charts. The Bills QBs have fewer starts combined than any other NFL team. Every other team has either a starter who has started many games or a backup who has. Some teams are guaranteed to keep 3. Just like the Bills, the Giants have 2 QBs drafted in 2017 & 2018, neither one is getting cut. They're keeping 3 and they have the veteran starter. Most of the teams that have a rookie QB will end up keeping 3 QBs. http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchartpos/QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I think the #1 reason we might want to find a new #3 is our O-line. They stink. Be that as it may, I won't be surprised in the slightest if we go with Allen/Peterman, or (hopefully not), Peterman/Allen. Hmmm. It just now occurs to me that this is my first post in which I have expressed a hope that Allen starts the season. Up until last night, I was very much of the mind that Allen should sit for several games, at least. I wonder how many other fans, like myself, have changed their mind after yesterday? I have three reasons for my change of heart: 1) McCarron is out. 2) Allen looked really good, and confident. 3) The idea of Peterman starting depresses me. I don't think he will do well against the Raven, or any DC who has game planned for him. Also, I wonder if this development (assuming we now roll with two QBs), raises Logan Thomas's stock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Um, did the OP jinx AJM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 The injury to AJ certainly changes things. The Bills need to sign a new QB ASAPfor the remainder of preseason. They need at least three QBs to be able to run the passing drills the WRs, RBs and TEs need to continue doing. The problem is who do they sign. Ideally, IMO, they would look for a young QB with PS eligibility. That would allow them to save a roster spot for another position. That may not be possible. It may be that the only QB they can sign will be a grizzled veteran. The problem is a veteran is going to figure out that he's got the team over a barrel. You can be sure any veteran will be looking for a guaranteed contract. They won't want to lose a year or two's worth of salary by having the bills cut them at the end of preseason so they can sign a youngster on the cheap for the PS. So, they may have to plan on the possibility of carrying 3 QBs on the active roster. You either have to have three on the 53 man roster, or 2 on the 53 man roster plus one on the PS for injury insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 If McCarron is out for several weeks the Bills should at the very least bring in a camp arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 On 8/2/2018 at 5:22 PM, Chandler#81 said: I’d typically agree with this, but not this year, not this group. 2 pedestrian young vets and a showcase colt. Dump a pedestrian, add another whatever. If McCarron goes down, there are plenty of Peterman/McCarron’s pushing shopping carts in the store out there. This needed a bump. It’s all your fault! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 OUCH!? Dare I say this may not be the only time? Clueless blocking from the OL, TE’s & RB’s vs Cleveland are absolutely alarming!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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