Buffalo716 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 The Western Michigan cornerback who is no longer eligible to play college ball is pretty talented And perhaps the Bills have picked up on that as they have attended his pro day McDermott is definitely getting recognition as a DB whisperer and if he wants to pull the trigger on this young man I wouldn’t be too against it especially if it is only a 3rd or 4th round selection you can NEVER have enough cornerbacks especially in today’s age He did have a solid pro day https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.buffalorumblings.com/platform/amp/2018/7/1/17521090/bills-links-7-1-the-bills-show-interest-in-wmu-cornerback-sam-beal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 3rd round pick ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, 3rdand12 said: 3rd round pick ? I think the 3rd or 4th is a solid round... you can be getting good upside there , the only thing I wonder is if he’s a a McDermott guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: I think the 3rd or 4th is a solid round... you can be getting good upside there , the only thing I wonder is if he’s a a McDermott guy His Coach portrays him a solid worker. What do you mean more specifically please? His academics ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: His Coach portrays him a solid worker. What do you mean more specifically please? His academics ? In addition to a high work ethic, seems clear McBeane want players who are selfless, team-first guys who prioritize winning above personal achievements. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: His Coach portrays him a solid worker. What do you mean more specifically please? His academics ? Pretty much. I feel like being ineligible as a D1 football player is a big thing I feel it might show a bit about your commitment level but at the same time it doenst really mean you have bad character... I think it’s a case by case thing Edited July 1, 2018 by Buffalo716 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 how and when does the Sup. draft work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, WMDman said: how and when does the Sup. draft work? All teams from 1-32 have a selection every round regardless of if they use it the Bills can select Beal in the third round, if nobody else does with a higher pick we lose a 3rd next year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, Buffalo716 said: Pretty much. I feel like being ineligible as a D1 football player is a big thing I feel it might show a bit about your work ethic or commitment level but at the same time it doenst really mean you have bad character... I think it’s a case by case thing Ineligible as a D1 college football player is like failing the first grade. What’s 4+4? Jello! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, WMDman said: how and when does the Sup. draft work? On 6/25/2018 at 9:17 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: His Coach portrays him a solid worker. What do you mean more specifically please? His academics ? Maybe he means super religious and chock-full of faith. Edited July 1, 2018 by Bobby Hooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Ineligible as a D1 college football player is like failing the first grade. What’s 4+4? Jello! To be fair, there’s always room for Jello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Ineligible as a D1 college football player is like failing the first grade. What’s 4+4? Jello! I didn’t even take math! I had the smart Asian like you take it for me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 I read all 32 teams went to his pro-day...he could cost a 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Pretty much. I feel like being ineligible as a D1 football player is a big thing I feel it might show a bit about your commitment level but at the same time it doenst really mean you have bad character... I think it’s a case by case thing He has no dings against him per his College Coach. yes i did read a few of the links : ) You have caught my interest 716, with this Kid. ☺️ 9 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: Maybe he means super religious and chock-full of faith. : ) well there is that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, 3rdand12 said: He has no dings against him per his College Coach. yes i did read a few of the links : ) You have caught my interest 716, with this Kid. ☺️ Nice, I hope he is clean, and a hard worker and I wouldn’t mind if we scooped him up because I love depth he ran a 4.47 his first attempt too not bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Nice, I hope he is clean, and a hard worker and I wouldn’t mind if we scooped him up because I love depth he ran a 4.47 his first attempt too not bad Hate giving up future draft picks. But next year tis the Season for Bills to ride Free agency a little harder. ps i think quality depth is underrated. and Beanes knows it's true value over a full seasons time. and packages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 minute ago, 3rdand12 said: Hate giving up future draft picks. But next year tis the Season for Bills to ride Free agency a little harder. Yea I’m never a big supplemental draft guy but that’s usually because no one of worth enters Occasionally there is a josh Gordon talent, very rarely. i dont think Beal is that type of talent but I think he can be a slot corner or swing outside corner could be worth a 4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 41 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: The Western Michigan cornerback who is no longer eligible to play college ball is pretty talented And perhaps the Bills have picked up on that as they have attended his pro day McDermott is definitely getting recognition as a DB whisperer and if he wants to pull the trigger on this young man I wouldn’t be too against it especially if it is only a 3rd or 4th round selection you can NEVER have enough cornerbacks especially in today’s age He did have a solid pro day https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.buffalorumblings.com/platform/amp/2018/7/1/17521090/bills-links-7-1-the-bills-show-interest-in-wmu-cornerback-sam-beal ...with it being a 3rd or 4th as well as $85+ mil in the FA cookie jar, it seems pretty reasonable IMO..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 It would be interesting if they could use the 4th round pick they got from the Ragland trade...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 17 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...with it being a 3rd or 4th as well as $85+ mil in the FA cookie jar, it seems pretty reasonable IMO..... We can make a lot of great moves next offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: We can make a lot of great moves next offseason .....so should we fire McBeane BEFORE or AFTER?........just askin'........seems to be some apprehension 'round these parts.......... Edited July 1, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 I just can’t imagine giving up higher than a 4th. Anyone in these drafts are just too risky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 He is incredibly talented. Comes down to what kind of kid he is. Poor academics are one thing. Is there any other off the field things? Can learn an NFL defensive scheme? For a 3rd with Buffalo holding 2 4ths I think it's a reasonable gamble. I expect multiple teams put in picks for him, comes down to rd and positioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Mat68 said: He is incredibly talented. Comes down to what kind of kid he is. Poor academics are one thing. Is there any other off the field things? Can learn an NFL defensive scheme? For a 3rd with Buffalo holding 2 4ths I think it's a reasonable gamble. I expect multiple teams put in picks for him, comes down to rd and positioning. ...nicely done reasonable assessment....poor academics is a joke when you consider some that come out with decent academics and their "course of study (COUGH)".....when some sign their contract with an "X", you know something ain't passing the smell test..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 2 hours ago, WMDman said: how and when does the Sup. draft work? Its kind of like a silent auction. 7 rounds and every team has a pick each round corresponding to this years NFL draft, but without trades. So KC has their first round pick, Houston has their first round pick, Cleveland has the first pick of the 3rd round, etc Teams then bid on what round they would draft the player. Highest bid is awarded the player. Team loses the corresponding pick in the following years draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 I would be happy if they did it with one of the 4th round picks. Great Size, looks likes he is a fit in McDermotts Defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Ineligible as a D1 college football player is like failing the first grade. What’s 4+4? Jello! Exactly. This is the only really interesting bit in this article. How low does someone's IQ have to be to achieve academic ineligibility at "Western Michigan University"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 I would love to add one more talented CB to the roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 He is probably 3rd round talent, but the Bills would have to use their 2nd round pick to get him--too many teams in front of them in the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 To be honest, I don't think the supplemental draft should exist. Just let them enter the league as undrafted free agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 43 minutes ago, MJS said: To be honest, I don't think the supplemental draft should exist. Just let them enter the league as undrafted free agents. What keeps them from purposely becoming ineligible so the can have their choice of team? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: What keeps them from purposely becoming ineligible so the can have their choice of team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Wilk Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Our Db's are set ( above par ) why waiste a pick for next draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 hour ago, /dev/null said: Yes, that would be the reason to avoid the supplemental draft. Exactly what I was getting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 6 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: What keeps them from purposely becoming ineligible so the can have their choice of team? They'll get paid next to nothing compared to getting drafted? And they'll be more expendable too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 NFL Network's Gil Brandt is hearing that one NFL team believes Western Michigan cornerback Sam Beal would have been taken in the second round had he entered the 2018 NFL Draft. As a result of the delay, Brandt is hearing that Beal will likely be taken in the third round of the 2018 NFL Supplemental Draft which takes place July 11. Brandt also noted that the Buffalo Bills and Cleveland Browns are two teams to watch as possible suitors for Beal because they have extra picks in Rounds Three and Four in the 2019 NFL Draft At his Pro Day earlier this week, Beal ran a wind assisted 4.40 in the 40 yard dash as well as a 4.55 second 40 yard dash against the wind. Beal was considered a first round talent in the 2019 NFL Draft. Bleacher Report mocked him to the Green Bay Packers No. 25 overall. Bleacher Report's Matt Miller recently reported that he is hearing Beal could be taken in the second round but the third round is more likely. "He's becoming what the NFL is looking for. A tall guy that can run and can play press coverage. We play press coverage here," Sanchez said. https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Article/Gil-Brandt-pegs-Bills-Browns-as-suitors-for-Sam-Beal-119505412/ I wonder how good is he at zone cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Exactly. This is the only really interesting bit in this article. How low does someone's IQ have to be to achieve academic ineligibility at "Western Michigan University"? Under some situations, not very low. If you're studying and holding down a fulltime job and bringing up a kid, maybe it's reasonable. But these players generally have tutoring, guidance in which courses to pick, someone calling to get 'em out of bed in the morning ... they're (not always, there are exceptions, but generally) pretty well supported by a staff that's used to handholding guys with limited academic skills though the system. See that show called Last Chance U. on Netflix about a JUCO for guys who've had problems? Fascinating. Some academic ineligibility comes from not being able to make it to class in the morning consistently. On the other hand, some comes from stuff like dyslexia. It's a spectrum. I wonder where on the spectrum this guy's problems fall? The coach's recommendation looked very convincing to me, though. Generally, the bad thing about supplemental draft guy is that something has caused them to be swept out of the system. That's not generally a good thing. It has to be factored in. Look at Josh Gordon. Spectacular talent. Pretty much of a train wreck personally. The good thing if a guy can live up to his potential is that you're arbitraging the pick a bit. There's a reason that in the draft value pick charts in the 2018 draft, a 2018 2nd rounder is worth a 2019 1st. Next year's pick is worth less to many to most teams that are desperate, because they don't like to give away a pick now and not get a guy till the next year. This is the opposite. You're getting a guy this year and not having to give up the pick until next year's draft. It can represent a bargain. But really it comes down to the guy. Edited July 2, 2018 by Thurman#1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Would be great if we could land him in the third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 6 hours ago, MJS said: They'll get paid next to nothing compared to getting drafted? And they'll be more expendable too. We're not talking about the same thing here. The draft eligible person who doesn't get drafted is who you are talking about. I was responding to a post that said just let the people ineligible for the draft become free agents. I pointed out that it would lead to people gaming the system to become free agents. Someone worthy of a 2nd or 3rd round pick who is a free agent would demand a lot more in compensation than the run of the mill free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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