nedboy7 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 The Buffalo Bills released guard Richie Incognito from the reserve/retired list Monday, the team announced. Incognito told the Bills he wanted to play again, a source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter, after the four-time Pro Bowl offensive lineman retired in April. Incognito is now a free agent and is able to sign with any team. The Bills placed Incognito on the retired list April 12, two days after Incognito informed the NFL Players Association in a tweet that he was "done" playing football. Incognito, 34, later told The Buffalo News that he made the decision for health-related reasons, saying, "My liver and kidneys are shutting down. The stress is killing me." The retirement came after Incognito and the Bills agreed to a renegotiated contract in March that included a $1.7 million pay cut in 2018, which would have been the final season of his contract. Days before retiring in April, Incognito fired his agent, David Dunn, in a tweet. At the time of his retirement, Incognito remained under investigation by the NFL for an allegation made by Jacksonville Jaguars defensive lineman Yannick Ngakoue that Incognito used racial slurs during the Bills' AFC wild-card playoff loss to the Jaguars in January. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 minute ago, jmc12290 said: No. I edited to avoid that response, but apparently not fast enough...oops. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: You want an uncommitted player protecting our QB of the future? That sounds scary As I said, there has to be a middle ground. The scarier thing is the state of our offensive line. If I were Shady, AJ, or Josh, I may want to consider getting some additional life insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Just now, Augie said: I edited to avoid that response, but apparently not fast enough...oops. If you think I will allow jokes of that nature go without rebuke, you have another thing coming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 If he runs through a hotel naked tonight then I am done with the guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Just now, Peter said: As I said, there has to be a middle ground. The scarier thing is the state of our offensive line. If I were Shady, AJ, or Josh, I may want to consider getting some additional life insurance. I feel a bad hammy coming on..... Kidding, I’m hoping we find a few hidden gems and this works out just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Peter said: As I said, there has to be a middle ground. The scarier thing is the state of our offensive line. If I were Shady, AJ, or Josh, I may want to consider getting some additional life insurance. Groy can handle it. We actually get bigger and stronger at the position (and younger) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 44 minutes ago, HappyDays said: It's funny how believable this is I was told by different person the exact same thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: You want an uncommitted player protecting our QB of the future? That sounds scary He was uncommitted in the off season. Not during a game. Big difference no? I heard he regretted the pay cut. Not sure if 1.7 mil was too much. I dont know the cap situation that well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 In the past several months, we have lost four offensive linemen who have started for the Bills over the past few years. We have gone from having a very good line to one that is questionable at best. As presently constituted, it does not instill a lot of confidence (particularly for our RBs and QBs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: If you think I will allow jokes of that nature go without rebuke, you have another thing coming. So.......maybe? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Just now, nedboy7 said: He was uncommitted in the off season. Not during a game. Big difference no? I heard he regretted the pay cut. Not sure if 1.7 mil was too much. I dont know the cap situation that well. In all honesty Ned...and this is just my opinion When a player starts talking about retirement? Its time to move on from them. I feel its better to get the next man up then worry about what is going on in his mind (which sounds whack a doo) and heart (maybe he really doesnt want to play football) I will say something else about incognito for those that have not followed his career......while he has given up us several productive years prior to that he was a head case player that you didnt know what you were getting year to year and that is why teams were releasing him. I am starting to wonder if Cog is on medication that if he doesnt take it then he has episodes like this that has actually caused him to be released from prior teams. In any case I want the hogs that have to handle the Suh's of the league to be committed to what they are doing.....one lapse and we are looking at a 1st round investment go up in smoke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Considering his past he might find the market for a 35 year old wacko a little tough. Keep in mind, Buffalo was the onlt team interested the last time.....was begging for a chance. Word gets around pretty fast with GM's, a black ball wouldn't really surprise anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: He was uncommitted in the off season. Not during a game. Big difference no? I heard he regretted the pay cut. Not sure if 1.7 mil was too much. I dont know the cap situation that well. ...then why not "just say no" and refuse to sign the deal?.....why rant POST SIGNING and make an azz of yourself?.....but it may not matter to him......firing his agent pointed the blame in the wrong direction....look in the mirror Richie.....the BIC was in your hand..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Buffalo Bills cut all ties, release Richie Incognito from reserve/retired list The odd story of the 2018 offseason for the Buffalo Bills and offensive lineman Richie Incognito has reached its conclusion. After previously saying that he would retire from the National Football League still with one year to go on his contract with the Bills, it appears that retirement won’t last long — at least not as it stands today. However, his return just won’t be with the Buffalo Bills. The team elected to release him from the reserve/retired list, which now means that Incognito will become an unrestricted free agent and will be able to sign with any team that he chooses. By releasing him, the bonus money the Bills had previously paid to the offensive lineman can no longer be recouped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 If Richie really called Pegula with a drunken tirade, was it Richie is a fool, or crazy like a fox? He DID get his way when he threatened to return. Would that have happened without “the call”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: In all honesty Ned...and this is just my opinion When a player starts talking about retirement? Its time to move on from them. I feel its better to get the next man up then worry about what is going on in his mind (which sounds whack a doo) and heart (maybe he really doesnt want to play football) I will say something else about incognito for those that have not followed his career......while he has given up us several productive years prior to that he was a head case player that you didnt know what you were getting year to year and that is why teams were releasing him. I am starting to wonder if Cog is on medication that if he doesnt take it then he has episodes like this that has actually caused him to be released from prior teams. In any case I want the hogs that have to handle the Suh's of the league to be committed to what they are doing.....one lapse and we are looking at a 1st round investment go up in smoke. He was trying to create leverage after he had buyer's remorse on the restructured deal. Guess what? He was successful. He was able to maneuver his way out of the deal. We will see if he gets a better contract. In my view, we cannot afford to lose offensive linemen . . . especially one that went to the pro bowl last year and has the trust of our best offensive weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Wonder if he thought something was gonna come out about the alleged incident in Jacksonville. He proceeds to retire to keep his current imagine as clean as possible to get a job in broadcasting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, Peter said: In the past several months, we have lost four offensive linemen who have started for the Bills over the past few years. We have gone from having a very good line to one that is questionable at best. As presently constituted, it does not instill a lot of confidence (particularly for our RBs and QBs). So I have Glenn (who has not been healthy) Cog (who had a mental break down of some sort) Wood (the one that hurts the most to me....injury related) Who is the 4th player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankoElTanko Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I am okay with moving on but I worry about him staying in the AFCE and hurting us. Ideally he goes to the Vikes or something or returns elsewhere in the NFC. He is still immensely talented and fully capable of starting anywhere in the NFL... Otherwise, I am all for moving forward (I would rather have waited until next year but what are you going to do) with Wyatt Teller and whomever else next year. Thanks for the memories Richie and bringing some nastiness back to B-lo when we were DESPERATE for some tenacity on our OL was really something to see (top 5 rushing attack in the NFL). It's too bad you got weird in the end however, it is unlikely any of us will ever know why. Hasta la vista Richie! #justsayNOtotheAFC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Just now, John from Riverside said: So I have Glenn (who has not been healthy) Cog (who had a mental break down of some sort) Wood (the one that hurts the most to me....injury related) Who is the 4th player? Henderson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Peter said: He was trying to create leverage after he had buyer's remorse on the restructured deal. Guess what? He was successful. He was able to maneuver his way out of the deal. We will see if he gets a better contract. In my view, we cannot afford to lose offensive linemen . . . especially one that went to the pro bowl last year and has the trust of our best offensive weapon. What if Cog was going to get released if he did not restructure his deal (this happens in all NFL teams not just the bills) Is it any different in that situation? I think they had their replacement in the bullpen in Groy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: So I have Glenn (who has not been healthy) Cog (who had a mental break down of some sort) Wood (the one that hurts the most to me....injury related) Who is the 4th player? Seantrel. The Bills did not re-sign him and he signed with Houston. He started a bunch of games for the Bills and has shown that (when healthy) he is capable and certainly a capable back up. At a minimum, we need the depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Henderson. The player who hasnt played for us in 2 years that needed weed in order to play? What am I missing? Is this a loss? Just now, Peter said: Seantrel. The Bills did not re-sign him and he signed with Houston. He started a bunch of games for the Bills and has shown that (when healthy) he is capable and certainly a capable back up. At a minimum, we need the depth. I actually thought Henderson was not very good when he played (jmo) My recollection is he would give max effort to try to win the position...then get lazy and play like crap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Just now, John from Riverside said: The player who hasnt played for us in 2 years that needed weed in order to play? What am I missing? Is this a loss? To me, yes. He was on the team last year. We will see how he plays for the Texans. To say he "needed weed" is a tad of an oversimplification. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, THE SLAMMER said: If he runs through a hotel naked tonight then I am done with the guy You should respect a man's dedication to crazy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: The player who hasnt played for us in 2 years that needed weed in order to play? What am I missing? Is this a loss? "weed" will and has been a significant step forward for many medical issues. that's another discussion but it stood out to me you were directing it in a negative way. Edited May 21, 2018 by DaBillsFanSince1973 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Just now, Peter said: To me, yes. He was on the team last year. We will see how he plays for the Texans. To say he "needed weed" is a tad of an oversimplification. Im really not trying to split hairs...just trying to understand. He has a condition that caused him to lose weight and he has been suspended because he cannot tolerate the pain without using weed which is still illegal in the league. Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenboy81 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Did he sign with the pats yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, FrankoElTanko said: I am okay with moving on but I worry about him staying in the AFCE and hurting us. Maybe he goes to the Pats* as a secret agent and we get free shots on Brady right up the middle? It’s Richie, nothing is TOO crazy!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: What if Cog was going to get released if he did not restructure his deal (this happens in all NFL teams not just the bills) Is it any different in that situation? I think they had their replacement in the bullpen in Groy Completely different. You know why? we just let the player say “restructure me or release me” instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankoElTanko Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, Augie said: Maybe he goes to the Pats* as a secret agent and we get free shots on Brady right up the middle? It’s Richie, nothing is TOO crazy!!! A little bit of J. Mills (@SD) type effort during the infamous Peterman start, lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: "weed" will and has been a significant step forward for many medical issues. that's another discussion but it stood out to me you were directing it in a negative way. That is def not my intention. I dont have any problem with it at all..its just that the NFL still does which is what makes it a problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 hour ago, ndirish1978 said: I could see him signing with someone else soon Would "his body" be OK with that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Im really not trying to split hairs...just trying to understand. He has a condition that caused him to lose weight and he has been suspended because he cannot tolerate the pain without using weed which is still illegal in the league. Am I missing something? Yes, he overcame the illness and was on the team last year. To me, it was worth extending him especially given the investment we had in him as well as the sorry state of our line. When healthy, he can start at multiple positions on the line . . . and, at a minimum, provides good depth. Just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookylookyherecomescookie Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said: Do you have your bosses phone number? I think Beane is his boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Just now, NoSaint said: Completely different. You know why? we just let the player say “restructure me or release me” instead. I understand that side of it. What I am wondering is if the bills were considering cutting him anyway in their "on the go rebiuld" so it was not such a bit deal that this happened. I dont like the precident though....and i thought they made a good statement with Bolden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 19 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I was told by different person the exact same thing. I imagine other teams will know what happened so I don't know why anyone would sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Peter said: Yes, he overcame the illness and was on the team last year. To me, it was worth extending him especially given the investment we had in him as well as the sorry state of our line. When healthy, he can start at multiple positions on the line . . . and, at a minimum, provides good depth. Just my two cents. At $4m I’m not sure I’m paying him... but I also think that cuts johns “he’s just a bum” take out at the knees. The guy has potential. i agree fans got overly excited about his play but it wasn’t bad either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatdane21 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Should have held him on list until at least the end of training camp, that way if some team had a major injury they could get something in return! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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